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Title: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 13, 2019, 05:40:17 pm
Saw this today ... will be nice not to have to import images to Camera Roll first ...

https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/13/adobe-lightroom-ipad-direct-photo-import/ (https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/13/adobe-lightroom-ipad-direct-photo-import/)
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 13, 2019, 06:48:11 pm
How much fun it will be to import hundreds or more 20+ megapixel raws onto an iPad.  ::)
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: rdonson on November 14, 2019, 12:12:09 pm
If they actually go on the iPad it would be maddening.

I'm hoping the iPad is just a way to upload to the Adobe Cloud, a passthrough of sorts.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 14, 2019, 01:58:20 pm
How much fun it will be to import hundreds or more 20+ megapixel raws onto an iPad.  ::)

Yes, if users try to completely replicate their desktop/laptop workflow on a tablet, it could get interesting to say the least.

How I utilize my iPad Pro for location work on smaller volume assignments is I usually only import subsets of the shoot to the tablet rather than the entire card(s) ... then I make final selects, crop, rotate bump contrast, tone and color balance as needed ... caption and send to clients via FTP.

Unfortunately, I currently don't use Lr Mobile for those assignments due to three reasons: 1. The double import issue that may soon be rectified with this sneak peek update. 2. The lack of peer-to-peer syncing over LAN from Lr Mobile to Lr/LrClassic ... don't see the need to get bogged down in transferring images over hundreds, if not thousands of miles to share between devices than may be within very close proximity. 3. Batch FTP export from Lr Mobile like I have been doing in Lr Classic since v2 (and can do currently with a $6 iOS app).

So far, Adobe has come up with one item on the list ... hoping it won't take too many years to achieve the latter two items ... (yes, I understand they are niche items)
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 14, 2019, 02:25:19 pm
How much fun it will be to import hundreds or more 20+ megapixel raws onto an iPad.  ::)

That’s why Apple offers up to 1TB on new iPads. 

Not that I would, currently do that.  However, a quick upload of a few images, to process, and send to friends or post would be a strong consideration.....and no lugging of laptop!!
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 02:50:44 pm
That’s why Apple offers up to 1TB on new iPads.
Wow, an entire TB.... And the time to put them on such a device, then get em off. No thanks, I'll stick with a tool like a dedicated Mac with far, far more space, speed and capabilities than a tablet.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 14, 2019, 03:01:47 pm
Wow, an entire TB.... And the time to put them on such a device, then get em off. No thanks, I'll stick with a tool like a dedicated Mac with far, far more space, speed and capabilities than a tablet.

Yes, for long term considerations or regular everyday use, I would never try and replace a capable laptop/desktop setup with a tablet of any storage size ... but ... there may be times when photographers are working away from such hardware where an iPad Pro in lieu of a laptop might be more than adequate interim solution when away from the office. In fact the last few generations of the top iPads have far more hardware computing horsepower and data throughput than many laptop/desktop configurations from just a few years ago.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 03:27:59 pm
In fact the last few generations of the top iPads have far more hardware computing horsepower and data throughput than many laptop/desktop configurations from just a few years ago.
Which is why some of us use more up to date hardware.  ;)
Look, some might want to use a Ford Pinto to haul a trailer, or even use a kitchen knife as a screw driver. But some of us have actual screw drivers.
If I need to partially edit images on location, there's a MacBook Pro for that.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 14, 2019, 03:44:28 pm
Wow, an entire TB.... And the time to put them on such a device, then get em off. No thanks, I'll stick with a tool like a dedicated Mac with far, far more space, speed and capabilities than a tablet.

Would help if you read and considered my second paragraph. 

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Not that I would, currently do that.  However, a quick upload of a few images, to process, and send to friends or post would be a strong consideration.....and no lugging of laptop!!

It is obvious that laptops/desktops are currently more capable.  That does not mean that this capability will be valuable to people traveling or in other circumstances.  Secondly, much of this, Apple iPad and Adobe cloud/mobile activity, is being done in preparation of future improved capability in hardware and WiFi.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 14, 2019, 03:51:49 pm
Which is why some of us use more up to date hardware.  ;)
Look, some might want to use a Ford Pinto to haul a trailer, or even use a kitchen knife as a screw driver. But some of us have actual screw drivers.
If I need to partially edit images on location, there's a MacBook Pro for that.

MacBook 13” = 3.0 lbs
12.9” iPad = 1.4lbs

Both 1TB storage.

Questionable which i has faster processor....with the proprietary Apple processors being used.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 03:52:44 pm
"future improved capability": do ping us when it arrives and forgive some of us for not holding our breath waiting while using existing and appropriate tools until then. 😱
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 14, 2019, 03:54:49 pm
"future improved capability": do ping us when it arrives and forgive some of us for not holding our breath waiting while using existing and appropriate tools until then. 😱

Ya always gotta get the last word in, dont you Andrew???  Always picking out one minor thing to pick on and never looking at the entire statement.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 03:57:13 pm
MacBook 13” = 3.0 lbs
12.9” iPad = 1.4lbs
Both weighing more than some of my camera with lens, so what?
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Both 1TB storage.
Expect when it's not the same. I've got a 8TB drive.
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Questionable which i has faster processor....with the proprietary Apple processors being used.
For you, questionable.
Go on, use the Tablet. Or the Frod Pinto, or the kitchen knife as a screwdriver. Other's will use the concept of: the right (BEST) tool for the right job.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 03:57:35 pm
Ya always gotta get the last word in, dont you Andrew???  Always picking out one minor thing to pick on and never looking at the entire statement.
We disagree. Get over it.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 14, 2019, 04:51:02 pm
We disagree. Get over it.

Me??  You!! Who is, obviously, in your mind, never wrong...but never reads all of the responses.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 14, 2019, 05:14:00 pm
Me??  You!! Who is, obviously, in your mind, never wrong...but never reads all of the responses.
Ya always gotta get the last word in, don't you jrsforums :P
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 15, 2019, 09:31:21 am
Which is why some of us use more up to date hardware.  ;)
Look, some might want to use a Ford Pinto to haul a trailer, or even use a kitchen knife as a screw driver. But some of us have actual screw drivers.
If I need to partially edit images on location, there's a MacBook Pro for that.

Wow ... why so bitter, angry and nasty? I don't recall trying to convince you, or anyone for that matter, to use any tools you would feel incapable of performing any task you face. I merely pointed out a milestone in tablet capability that shows the device gaining similar functionality to other hardware. Use it. Don't use it. Don't really care one way or the other how you feel about it.

Yes, there are times when a tablet can be of much more convenience than a laptop ... regardless of storage capacity. For instance, when I'm working a night NFL or college football game and need to send clients photos from the sideline during a TV timeout to meet their deadline, a laptop would be extremely unweildy and annoying to use, where the tablet is more than adequate to get the job done quickly and conveniently. The requirements for this task is not often and I do use a MacBook Pro most often on location assignments, but in this instance the tablet IS the RIGHT, BEST tool for the job. If you are incapable, or worse, unwilling to grasp the concept that there is more than one viable solution, so be it.

There are times when even a lowly Frod Pinto (typo intentional for effect) may not be the ideal tool in the mind of others but can also be more than capable of accomplishing the task at hand.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 15, 2019, 09:35:08 am
"What annoys us about others may say more about ourselves than about them."-C.J. Jung”
Get over it  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 15, 2019, 01:48:19 pm
"What annoys us about others may say more about ourselves than about them."-C.J. Jung”
Get over it  ;D ;D

Showing yer butt, one more time. 😀
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 15, 2019, 01:51:36 pm
Showing yer butt, one more time. 😀
Ya always gotta get the last word in, don't you jrsforums :P
See, I do read your writings, I just don't take them seriously  ;D
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 15, 2019, 01:54:26 pm
Ya always gotta get the last word in, don't you jrsforums :P
See, I do read your writings, I just don't take them seriously  ;D

You know...I said, earlier, you had to get the last word....and in your normal fashion, you hit back and accuse me of doing that.

I know you will not be able to hold back responding.  I will ignore it and let you have you, usual, last work.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 15, 2019, 01:58:28 pm
You know...I said, earlier, you had to get the last word....and in your normal fashion, you hit back and accuse me of doing that.
Because that's what you've done. And will do so again.
“Hypocrite: The man who murdered his parents, and then pleaded for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan.”― Abraham Lincoln
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I will ignore it and let you have you, usual, last work.

"There is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: Aram Hăvărneanu on November 15, 2019, 02:17:14 pm
I don't understand why the site administrators haven't banned Andrew already. I try to avoid any thread in which Andrew posts (which is most of them), and I am sure I can't be the only one who feels this way.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: digitaldog on November 15, 2019, 02:24:03 pm
I don't understand why the site administrators haven't banned Andrew already.
As a newbie here, I can understand why you don't understand how bans work on LuLa.
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I try to avoid any thread in which Andrew posts
You can try harder. You can use the Ignore function too and I'd be happy in assisting you in learning how to use it.
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I am sure I can't be the only one who feels this way.
Sure you're sure. But that doesn't affect how or why people are banned here.
No one sir, is putting a gun to your head to hear from anyone on the forums you don't wish to hear from. There is a reason for the Ignore functionality here and why it is implemented instead of blatant censorship you desire (banning).
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 15, 2019, 03:36:21 pm

Get over it  ;D ;D

Sound advice ... perhaps you could lead by example.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on November 15, 2019, 10:07:23 pm
I’m less than excited about this. Adobe haven’t managed to support tethered shooting of Sony onto a laptop so their attempts to directly import images into lightroom on a iPad just irritate me.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: jrsforums on November 15, 2019, 10:09:20 pm
I’m less than excited about this. Adobe haven’t managed to support tethered shooting of Sony onto a laptop so their attempts to directly import images into lightroom on a iPad just irritate me.

Nikon & Canon provide SDKs for Adobe to use.  Do you know if Sony provides similar?  If not, that could be a reason.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on November 15, 2019, 11:27:23 pm
Nikon & Canon provide SDKs for Adobe to use.  Do you know if Sony provides similar?  If not, that could be a reason.

I don’t know for sure but I assume so because Capture one does a good job with it and so does the CamFi pro native software and a few others.

Also I did use Lightroom to tether Canon cameras and it’s implementation is not good at all compared to what other programs like Capture One are able to achieve.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: ButchM on November 15, 2019, 11:34:11 pm
I’m less than excited about this. Adobe haven’t managed to support tethered shooting of Sony onto a laptop so their attempts to directly import images into lightroom on a iPad just irritate me.

If you are on Mac, there is a workaround if you are interested in tethering. Not sure if your camera is supported but many are using the Image Capture app that comes installed with Mac OS. you can designate a folder for Image Capture to write the images, then set that as a watched folder for Lightroom.

Keep in mind you can't control camera setting or trigger the camera from within Lightroom using this method but you can auto-import imaged captured this way.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on November 15, 2019, 11:52:35 pm
If you are on Mac, there is a workaround if you are interested in tethering. Not sure if your camera is supported but many are using the Image Capture app that comes installed with Mac OS. you can designate a folder for Image Capture to write the images, then set that as a watched folder for Lightroom.

Keep in mind you can't control camera setting or trigger the camera from within Lightroom using this method but you can auto-import imaged captured this way.

Yes I used that workaround for years. It works but it’s not fast and is rather clunky to set up. As you say you can’t trigger from within LR and there is no access to things like overlays, live view, focus peaking and so on. It effectively renders LR useless as a serious tethering tool.

You show up on a shoot with all the fancy kit and client asks to see live view when you set up. You can no can do and they say oh but the other photographer from last week could do it.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: chez on November 18, 2019, 10:49:31 am
Both weighing more than some of my camera with lens, so what?

Many airlines are going to a 7kg carryon limit. Every gram saved allows for more camera gear. For simple editing when traveling to send images to family or friends I'd much rather take an iPad and save the weight for more camera gear.
Title: Re: 'Adobe previews direct photo import coming to Lightroom on iPad'
Post by: JWB on November 18, 2019, 06:04:55 pm
I have an iPad Pro and a desktop. I do not have a laptop. I am very excited about this update.