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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 02, 2019, 07:32:22 pm

Title: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 02, 2019, 07:32:22 pm
Three of my photographs are now in the Noel de Christian Photography gallery in downtown Hollywood, Florida. Stop by and treat yourself to a piece of landscape or citiscape art. Make your neighbors jealous again!

P.S. To prove the relevance for the Coffee Corner, there is a great Cuban coffee cafe right next door  ;)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Chris Kern on August 02, 2019, 09:06:10 pm
Three of my photographs are now in the Noel de Christian Photography gallery in downtown Hollywood, Florida.

I always enjoy your impressionistic approach to cityscapes and architecturals, Slobodan.  The two displayed in the gallery — I recall that you have posted them individually here before — are both excellent.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 03, 2019, 05:02:55 am
Three of my photographs are now in the Noel de Christian Photography gallery in downtown Hollywood, Florida. Stop by and treat yourself to a piece of landscape or citiscape art. Make your neighbors jealous again!

P.S. To prove the relevance for the Coffee Corner, there is a great Cuban coffee cafe right next door  ;)

Nice pictures; pity about the immigrants next door.

;-)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: LesPalenik on August 03, 2019, 06:24:58 am
Congratulations, Slobodan!
There seems to be a lot of water in that skyline picture. Either high tide or as effect of the global warming.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 03, 2019, 09:58:08 am
Congratulations, Slobodan!
There seems to be a lot of water in that skyline picture. Either high tide or as effect of the global warming.

It is Chicago, so neither, sorry :)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: RSL on August 03, 2019, 10:04:43 am
Good luck with it, Slobodan. Brings back memories of seeing my stuff in a couple Colorado Springs galleries. Unfortunately, the experience was better at boosting my ego than producing revenue. I hope you sell like mad.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Alan Klein on August 03, 2019, 10:55:21 am
I've seen those shots here.  Great you're selling them.  Looks impressive large.  Good luck.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 03, 2019, 11:03:01 am
Good luck with it, Slobodan... I hope you sell like mad.

Thanks, Russ, but you know me, I am too old and too cynical to live in delusions ;)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 03, 2019, 03:32:42 pm
... pity about the immigrants next door.

I'll let this one slide  :(
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: RSL on August 03, 2019, 04:18:42 pm
Best. . .
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 03, 2019, 04:39:30 pm
I'll let this one slide  :(

That's my boy! More situation ethics effortlessly applied!

When is a Cuban a good Cuban and when is he not, that is the question. Othello comes to mind, poor guy.

:-)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Raul_82 on August 04, 2019, 09:54:15 pm
Nice pictures; pity about the immigrants next door.

;-)

A reminder of why I don't really post here anymore. I just happen to be Cuban and live in Hollywood, FL.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 04, 2019, 10:49:22 pm
A reminder of why I don't really post here anymore. I just happen to be Cuban and live in Hollywood, FL.

Raul, I apologize that such a thing is posted in my thread and let's meet in the gallery.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Raul_82 on August 04, 2019, 11:45:37 pm
No worries Slobodan, PM sent.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: fdisilvestro on August 05, 2019, 12:08:25 am
When is a Cuban a good Cuban ...


A Cuban is a good Cuban until you prove otherwise, the same as any other nationality on this planet.
Rob, I really like your posts and photos, but I think these posts about Cuban nationals were really wrong.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Manoli on August 05, 2019, 01:27:03 am
Don’t think one needs a PhD to understand what was clearly a sardonic comment by Rob aimed at the ideology of those on the far-right. Previous threads on immigration and illegals come to mind.

The reference to Othello should have dispelled any doubt.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: LesPalenik on August 05, 2019, 01:39:09 am
+1
Rob even appended a ": )" to clarify it as a joke or ironic statement.

I guess we'll need to add really huge smiling yellow balloons to the LuLa vocabulary. Or disclaimers that not all posts should be taken seriously.   
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 01:42:13 am
Don’t think one needs a PhD to understand what was clearly a sardonic comment by Rob aimed at the ideology of those on the far-right. Previous threads on immigration and illegals come to mind.

The reference to Othello should have dispelled any doubt.

And what all that has to do with my thread?

And what exactly “the far-right ideology” has to do with it? This is a country of immigrants, myself included. One million legal immigrants enter the U.S. annually. Miami has a large Cuban population and a whole section of the town. There is no “ideology” against legal immigrants.

Rob’s comment was simply despicable for its intended implication, given its placement in a totally apolitical and personal thread.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 01:47:02 am
+1
Rob even appended a ": )" to clarify it as a joke or ironic statement.

I guess we'll need to add really huge smiling yellow balloons to the LuLa vocabulary. Or disclaimers that not all posts should be taken seriously.   

I strongly detest whatever that was.

As for “;-)” that is Rob’s standard signature in every post.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 05, 2019, 04:37:25 am
I strongly detest whatever that was.

As for “;-)” that is Rob’s standard signature in every post.

"That's my boy! More situation ethics effortlessly applied!

When is a Cuban a good Cuban and when is he not, that is the question. Othello comes to mind, poor guy.

:-)"



If anyone is unable to understand English properly, let me put it into even more simple terms: these pages are filled with comments about different nationals "invading" the USA - exactly as Lord Trump wants them to think and expound.

Slobodan himself is no advocate of open borders, yet, when a presumably non-native person, still referred to as a Cuban (note, not referred to as an American) happens to have a conveniently situated café or bar, all is sweetness and light with said nationality and appellation.

However, when Obama attempts to create some much-needed harmony and normalization with that island and its people, he is an idiot selling out America to the Communists!

That's what the term situation ethics implies: the same thing is good or bad depending on how it fits in with the mood, circumstances and surroundings - not to mention company - within which the person passing the opinion happens to find himself.

To reduce it to even more simple a base: a Cuban "American" with a nice, conveniently placed bar is fine; one living and sweating in Cuba is probably a red threat; as for Raul - he is a Cuban who lives in Florida and posts in LuLa, so he is a good Cuban - which I'm certain he is, even if he sometimes fails to get the implications of written English. Sadly, he isn't the only one, it seems.

This is no attack on Cuba or Cubans: I only know and respect one Cuban: a musician who lives here on the island. A more pleasant, polite and cultured person you couldn't hope to meet. The post was a question: when or when not is a person - a Cuban, in this case, considered a good person or otherwise? The implied answer to that question being as I wrote here: depends much on whether you like him or not, and who you happen to be with at the time of making your comment.

My post is not, was not, and in no way resembles an attack on either Cuba or Cubans.

To clarify even further:

1. I am myself of mixed breed: the perfect mongrel; part Brit and part Italian with a background of living in both those countries as well as in India and Spain. I have been able to observe the various nationalist antics of all of those peoples and in my judgement, they all come down to backing the home team, rightly or wrongly. That's pathetic. There is a lack of objectivity that leads to much of the trouble we see in our world today.

2. In the correspondence above, it happened to be the word Cuban that was employed. You could interchange that noun with almost any other that denotes a country of origin and it comes down to exactly the same thing, the same argument and the same cultural blindness, and all can and are used in the same convenient little packagings dependent on personal advantages at the time.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 05, 2019, 06:25:43 am
And what all that has to do with my thread?

And what exactly “the far-right ideology” has to do with it? This is a country of immigrants, myself included. One million legal immigrants enter the U.S. annually. Miami has a large Cuban population and a whole section of the town. There is no “ideology” against legal immigrants.

Rob’s comment was simply despicable for its intended implication, given its placement in a totally apolitical and personal thread.


What it has to do with your thread is the reference, your very own, to the Cuban coffee establishment. Where did I write "far-right ideology"? Not one of my pet permutations of phrase. Oh - is that just another "red" herring perhaps? Some may jump for that, but not I. I realise your reply was to someone else, but the inclusion in your attack on my post ties the two together.


As for my "despicable comment and intent", you appear to have struck out on both counts. There was nothing despicable there; I am ever aware of how easily one might be thrown out of the conversation if not also the site; I try to use my words carefully, and though I sometimes fail, this was not one such occasion.

As for the thread being apolitical, there is no thread here that stays rigidly to original post and proposition, unless in the tech. threads; it's one of the attractions of LuLa that conversation can flow, develop and remain interesting and current enough to solicit responses. Change that, and you get: "great snaps Slobodan, they should sell well." Followed quickly with "+1" and so forth. Is that really the quality of conversation - or of validation - your heart craves?
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Alan Klein on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 pm
Rob, you really ought to stop digging.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: KLaban on August 05, 2019, 12:42:56 pm
Is it too much to hope that political bunfights are limited to the political bunfight threads?
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: faberryman on August 05, 2019, 12:56:46 pm
As for the thread being apolitical, there is no thread here that stays rigidly to original post and proposition, unless in the tech. threads; it's one of the attractions of LuLa that conversation can flow, develop and remain interesting and current enough to solicit responses. Change that, and you get: "great snaps Slobodan, they should sell well." Followed quickly with "+1" and so forth. Is that really the quality of conversation - or of validation - your heart craves?
Actually, I think that is the quality of discussion most desire when posting their photos. Why else would he post a thread telling us he has three photos in a gallery?
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 01:05:06 pm
... In the correspondence above, it happened to be the word Cuban that was employed...

A word. A single word. And yet, like Pavlov's dog, you salivated at the opportunity for a political and personal dig.

In your twisted interpretation, that word is supposed to mean this, in your words:

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... a presumably non-native person, still referred to as a Cuban (note, not referred to as an American)...

How horrible of me! Not being able to see a fellow American as an American, but just as a Cuban! I can't even lower myself to write a Cuban-American, apparently.

Maybe because there is no such thing as Cuban-American? Nobody has it, nobody serves it. There is American, and there is Cuban, but there is no Cuban-American COFFEE.

Yes, I am yelling: COFFEE!!!

Because that is what I wrote:

... P.S. To prove the relevance for the Coffee Corner, there is a great Cuban coffee cafe right next door  ;)

You see, Rob, Cuban coffee is a type of coffee, Café Cubano, just like English Breakfast is a type of tea. It is a very strong coffee, prepared with a lot of sugar.

There was nothing political in what I wrote, nor any hidden meaning. Whatever political garbage you managed to imply is on you, especially accusing me of "pathetic, nationalistic antics," dual standards, and questionable morality. That is really pathetic.

In my OP post, I made no comments whatsoever about Cuban people, certainly not that "one living and sweating in Cuba is probably a red threat." As you know, I've been twice to Cuba, and yes, I admit, in the first photo essay from the trip (which can be found here (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/cuba-cruises)) I did make a statement about Cuban people:

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For me, the most surprising aspect of Cuba today: its people! - friendly, jovial, colorful:

That girl was the one serving me my first Café Cubano. Sweet. Coffee and the girl.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 01:20:17 pm
Actually, I think that is the quality of discussion most desire when posting their photos. Why else would he post a thread telling us he has three photos in a gallery?

Why else? Several forum members posted here when they had a solo exhibition, or being included in an exhibition, or in a gallery. This is simply an announcement and invitation. My thread is titled "When you are in Hollywood, FL..." Come on in, stop by. I know at least one forum member that visits frequently Fort Lauderdale/Miami area. Turns out, another member actually lives here as well.

I do not need your validation. I've had plenty already. (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p504554869) But I will take "+1" as a polite social custom anytime over your sarcasm. Nobody is forced to reply.

Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: James Clark on August 05, 2019, 01:20:46 pm
Those are three nice images Slobodan - the rainy window is one of your best.  Good luck with some sales.

Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 02:22:12 pm
Chris, Les, Russ, Alan, and James,

Thanks for the good wishes. I will need it. As I mentioned to Russ, I have no illusion that gallery sales are going to be great. It is a low (tourist) season for South Florida, so very few people even pass by, let alone walk in. Perhaps once a month, when there is an art event in the adjacent street, we can have 100-200 visitors in a day. Not much buying, though. But compliments, oh, compliments... ;)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: RSL on August 05, 2019, 03:07:31 pm
Exactly, Slobodan. That ego boost is what makes it worthwhile.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 05, 2019, 03:33:18 pm
A word. A single word. And yet, like Pavlov's dog, you salivated at the opportunity for a political and personal dig.

In your twisted interpretation, that word is supposed to mean this, in your words:

How horrible of me! Not being able to see a fellow American as an American, but just as a Cuban! I can't even lower myself to write a Cuban-American, apparently.

Maybe because there is no such thing as Cuban-American? Nobody has it, nobody serves it. There is American, and there is Cuban, but there is no Cuban-American COFFEE.

Yes, I am yelling: COFFEE!!!

Because that is what I wrote:

You see, Rob, Cuban coffee is a type of coffee, Café Cubano, just like English Breakfast is a type of tea. It is a very strong coffee, prepared with a lot of sugar.

There was nothing political in what I wrote, nor any hidden meaning. Whatever political garbage you managed to imply is on you, especially accusing me of "pathetic, nationalistic antics," dual standards, and questionable morality. That is really pathetic.

In my OP post, I made no comments whatsoever about Cuban people, certainly not that "one living and sweating in Cuba is probably a red threat." As you know, I've been twice to Cuba, and yes, I admit, in the first photo essay from the trip (which can be found here (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/cuba-cruises)) I did make a statement about Cuban people:

That girl was the one serving me my first Café Cubano. Sweet. Coffee and the girl.



Sweet, Slobodan, sweet, but the conversation has moved way beyond your original post. You should reread what I actually wrote or, at least, quote it in full rather than make delightful little edits that can, as with anything that's manipulated, be turned to mean anything you want them to mean.

You really can do better than that if you put your mind to it!

:-)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 05, 2019, 03:36:01 pm
Is it too much to hope that political bunfights are limited to the political bunfight threads?


Keith, this is not political: it's a point of ethics, and how flexible they can become depending on the time and place and, no doubt, on the substances being enjoyed.

Rob
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: KLaban on August 05, 2019, 03:39:25 pm

Keith, this is not political: it's a point of ethics, and how flexible they can become depending on the time and place and, no doubt, on the substances being enjoyed.

Rob

Rob, you sound like a politician.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Rob C on August 05, 2019, 03:48:43 pm
Rob, you sound like a politician.


Do you think I might get elected?

Off for my first cataract op tomorrow morning; I wonder where I shall eventually have lunch? Fortunately, my visiting daughter was able to alter her flights, and so no need to worry about transportation and the more difficult problem of finding a relative to sign me out after the event! They refuse to let folks go back home alone, possibly because they may attempt to drive. Which makes sense. The not driving, I mean.

:-)
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: faberryman on August 05, 2019, 05:06:23 pm
Exactly, Slobodan. That ego boost is what makes it worthwhile.
Like I said.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: KLaban on August 05, 2019, 05:07:08 pm
Good luck, Rob, hope it goes well for you.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 05, 2019, 05:13:12 pm
Like I said.

Looks like detecting a self-depreciating sarcasm is beyond your comprehension skills.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Ivo_B on August 05, 2019, 05:15:41 pm
Boys, boys, I only blinked my eyes and the old club members are bitch fighting.

 :o :o

Nice expo, Slobodan. When I didn’t live on the other side of the world I would pop over to have a Cuban coffee.

P.S: Where is the moderator when you need him to moderate the overreaction!  ::) Is he hiding for the clashing titans?



Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: RSL on August 05, 2019, 07:55:57 pm

Do you think I might get elected?

Off for my first cataract op tomorrow morning; I wonder where I shall eventually have lunch? Fortunately, my visiting daughter was able to alter her flights, and so no need to worry about transportation and the more difficult problem of finding a relative to sign me out after the event! They refuse to let folks go back home alone, possibly because they may attempt to drive. Which makes sense. The not driving, I mean.

:-)

Rob, Best of luck with the cataract op. I had both eyes done, actually many years ago now. The procedure is pretty cut and dried nowadays, and the results, for me at least, have been excellent.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 06, 2019, 10:22:07 am
... Nice expo, Slobodan. When I didn’t live on the other side of the world I would pop over to have a Cuban coffee...

Thanks, Ivo. Maybe I'll show up one day in your neighborhood for a cup of Belgium coffee (or chocolate). I have very fond memories of my earlier visits to Brussels.
Title: Re: When you are in Hollywood, Florida...
Post by: Ivo_B on August 06, 2019, 04:31:38 pm
Thanks, Ivo. Maybe I'll show up one day in your neighborhood for a cup of Belgium coffee (or chocolate). I have very fond memories of my earlier visits to Brussels.

I will be happy to guide you in my home town Antwerp.