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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: LawrenceBraunstein on May 21, 2019, 08:21:55 am

Title: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: LawrenceBraunstein on May 21, 2019, 08:21:55 am
This is my first post to the ‘Landscape Showcase’ section of the Lula forum, though I’ve admired many of the posts here for some time. This photo was taken at ‘Josefinelust’ which is a point located within Sweden’s very beautiful Kullaberg Nature Reserve.
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on May 21, 2019, 08:32:49 am
I like the composition and light, but there are some halos between the rocks and the sky - perhaps too aggressive processing?
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: LawrenceBraunstein on May 21, 2019, 09:01:04 am
Thanks Paulo. I agree, though I believe the problem also lies partly with Lightroom's 'clarity'. I've gotten better results with other RAW converters. For better or for worse, I've been with Lightroom since version 1! Nevertheless, thank you for the comment.
Larry
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 21, 2019, 10:35:20 am
Use a local brush with negative clarity along the edges.

Nice mood in the picture.
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: LawrenceBraunstein on May 21, 2019, 10:49:35 am
Use a local brush with negative clarity along the edges.

Nice mood in the picture.

That's a good idea, Slobodan. I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion and the encouraging words!
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: churly on May 21, 2019, 11:00:38 am
Slobodan's technique is very useful.  I use it a lot but learned it from him.  It will help with the broad halo but won't remove the 1 pixel sharpening artifact which for me is a constant battle.
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: David Eckels on May 21, 2019, 02:00:12 pm
Having had the same problem, Slobodan gave me the same advice. I have also found that avoiding use of global clarity above 15 helps. The local brush could help you avoid those high contrast edges, which are always problematic for me. I find that increasing structure and contrast controlled by a mask works very well in PS and you can soften those hard transitions. Potentially lovely image BTW.
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: rabanito on May 21, 2019, 04:44:09 pm
Just my humble newbie opinion:
As far as my modest experience goes, too much clarity produces somewhat diffuse halos.
These halos look sharp, maybe it's some over-sharpening there?
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: LawrenceBraunstein on May 22, 2019, 05:01:53 am
Following Slobodan’s advice, I tried to remove as much of the halo between the rock and sky as I could. I set my LR adjustment brush to negative clarity as well as (some) negative texture. The result, though not perfect, is definitely better than before. I thank you all for your help, but particularly Slobodan whose suggestion of using negative clarity to rectify the halo problem was perfect...and much appreciated!

Larry
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: rabanito on May 22, 2019, 08:32:52 am
The result, though not perfect, is definitely better than before.
Larry

Hi Larry
I apologize if I missed the point, but it looks like the halos are still there.
At least those I referred to.




Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: rabanito on May 22, 2019, 08:34:55 am
Maybe this coud be of interest?

https://www.duncanfawkes.com/blog/avoiding-halos
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 22, 2019, 10:40:41 am
Clarity halos and sharpening halos are two different things and should be addressed separately.

There is, however, a third type of halos, the one produced by under-the-hood masking, which happens when one tries to, for instance, suppress highlights too much, or darken one particular color too much (e.g., turn a blue sky into much darker).
Title: Re: On the coast of Southwest Sweden
Post by: rabanito on May 22, 2019, 10:58:38 am
Clarity halos and sharpening halos are two different things and should be addressed separately.

I think those are sharpening halos.
If it were so, it would be relatively easy to mask them away in PS.
Photokit provides a mask. Or one can sharpen a duplicate layer. Or...or...