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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: rabanito on April 05, 2019, 04:08:11 pm
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How about splitting the column in two, "Coffee Corner Photography" and "Coffee Corner Non-Photography"
This was done with the Showcases (albeit both related to photography) Landscape and Street successfully AFAIK
In this way the non-interested-public would be spared from some clicking forward, reading something unrelated and getting out clicking backwards, which can be enormously tiring and boring in the long run
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How about splitting the column in two, "Coffee Corner Photography" and "Coffee Corner Non-Photography"
This was done with the Showcases (albeit both related to photography) Landscape and Street successfully AFAIK
In this way the non-interested-public would be spared from some clicking forward, reading something unrelated and getting out clicking backwards, which can be enormously tiring and boring in the long run
Or, you could get another Alexa to read it to you, the bowdlerized version of LuLa, that is.
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How about splitting the column in two, "Coffee Corner Photography" and "Coffee Corner Non-Photography"
This was done with the Showcases (albeit both related to photography) Landscape and Street successfully AFAIK
In this way the non-interested-public would be spared from some clicking forward, reading something unrelated and getting out clicking backwards, which can be enormously tiring and boring in the long run
Another benefit of learning to read - using the topic titles to avoid all that strenuous button clicking.
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It's cute to say "well just don't read it" but that is to completely ignore human nature.
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It's cute to say "well just don't read it" but that is to completely ignore human nature.
So that means that LuLa needs to compensate for the lack of self-control exhibited by folks without enough of it?
That sounds suspiciously like the "nanny state" so derided by some who object to regulations such as not smoking in restaurants, or even to the wearing of seat belts.
:-)
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So that means that LuLa needs to compensate for the lack of self-control exhibited by folks without enough of it?
That sounds suspiciously like the "nanny state" so derided by some who object to regulations such as not smoking in restaurants, or even to the wearing of seat belts.
:-)
Are you suggesting that there only be one forum? Talk about a nanny state: do we really need three dozen subforums? Why not like GMail with one folder and a search function? I just click on "Show unread posts since last visit" and read what interests me. Isn't that what everyone does? Surely no one accesses threads from the forums page where you can't even read the titles of the threads.
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Are you suggesting that there only be one forum? Why do we need three dozen?
I'm suggesting the status quo is perfectly adequate.
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IMO if we're gonna have rant & chant threads again they should go in their own subforum. If I prefer not to look at mirrorless camera threads I can just skip the Mirrorless subforum. The same logic oughta apply in this case.
-Dave-
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IMO if we're gonna have rant & chant threads again they should go in their own subforum. If I prefer not to look at mirrorless camera threads I can just skip the Mirrorless subforum. The same logic oughta apply in this case.
-Dave-
Mirrorless is under Equipment and Techniques, just as R&C (nice one!) is under Coffee Corner, itself constructed for such topics as may not be strictly photographic in nature. No conflict that I can see. One could just as easily skip any topic the title/nature of which does not appeal, something I do every time I visit here.
Rob
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Another benefit of learning to read...
;D
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We could call the politics subforum The Swamp.
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Yes, snowflakes of the world, unite! Safe spaces for all!
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So that means that LuLa needs to compensate for the lack of self-control exhibited by folks without enough of it?
That sounds suspiciously like the "nanny state" so derided by some who object to regulations such as not smoking in restaurants, or even to the wearing of seat belts.
:-)
Well, the reality is that people are not particularly capable of resisting their baser urges. That's why we're fat, and drunk, and spend too much money on cameras.
I offer, here, no position on whether or not some assistance should be granted those who would prefer not be be embroiled, but find the temptation nonetheless, well, tempting. I point out merely that "well, exert some self-control, you weenies" will probably have limited effect.
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Another benefit of learning to read - using the topic titles to avoid all that strenuous button clicking.
Hmmmm...
You are right but sometimes the title can be misleading and even silly, hiding great pictures and also poor ones
With all the respect you deserve and just as an example:
You read something like
"Super picture of NZ PM "
You go there, open the link and what do you find?
No super picture there IMHO
I call that misleading. I wasted my clicks ;D
Mine was just an idea which I found worth discussing 8)
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... sometimes the title can be misleading and even silly, hiding great pictures and also poor ones
With all the respect you deserve and just as an example:
You read something like
"Super picture of NZ PM "
You go there, open the link and what do you find?
No super picture there IMHO...
Indeed. Imagine my surprise when clicking on titles like "Spectacular Sunset on Playa..." ;)
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How about splitting the column in two, "Coffee Corner Photography" and "Coffee Corner Non-Photography"
What would be the correct procedure if someone posts a rhetorical question in the Non-Photography section, i.e. how to insert a picture in a post, and then some helpful soul wants to assist with an example using some hot image?
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What would be the correct procedure if someone posts a rhetorical question in the Non-Photography section, i.e. how to insert a picture in a post, and then some helpful soul wants to assist with an example using some hot image?
That is not a rhetorical question
A rhetorical question is a question someone asks without expecting an answer. The question might not have an answer, or it might have an obvious answer.
But anyway, I meant well. I would prefer things related to Trump, Brexit, Maduro or ISIS in a bin totally unrelated to photography when they are really non related to photography, photography being the only reason why I am here
That is just my opinion. As I said before, I have benefited very much from my membership at LULA so the topic is relatively irrelevant :)
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It's not going to happen. I see no benefit.
Jeremy
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Aren't most of us just hitting "unread posts" anyway?
Kent in SD
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It's cute to say "well just don't read it" but that is to completely ignore human nature.
Looking at instead of reading it, on the other hand, is perfectly humans nature.
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It's not going to happen. I see no benefit.
Jeremy
In case that I understand this right:
All the way around, what's the benefit of discussing politics (or Religion or whatever) in a photographic forum
The danger is great that it would unnecessarily create antipathies, to say the least
And as for "well just don't read it", the only way to know that something written is rubbish is to read it (paraphrasing E.M.Forster) ;)
An (American?) proverb states
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
One of my mottoes :)
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In case that I understand this right:
All the way around, 1. what's the benefit of discussing politics (or Religion or whatever) in a photographic forum
The danger is great that it would unnecessarily create antipathies, to say the least
And as for "well just don't read it", the only way to know that something written is rubbish is to read it (paraphrasing E.M.Forster) ;)
An (American?) proverb states
2. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
One of my mottoes :)
1. There is no intention that it benefit nor not benefit photography.
The function of the Coffee Corner is the provision of a space - a tea or coffee shop? - where people with a common interest in photography (us) can also extend their conversation into other, broader, less narrow gulches (or dead ends) of life and its wondeful tapestry. How boring to think of one another as nothing but camera and computer geeks.
2. It's not broke; what has perhaps been realised is that treating the wider membership as mono-dimensional idiots perhaps of itself constitutes a bit of a danger of creating some break. We live in very interesting political times, and not having the space here, chez nous, as it were, to throw ideas around and see how others we half-know feel, is very frustrating.
If you look at the history of the CC you find all sorts of topics; it's simply that since the arrival upon the scene of the Orange One, his disruptive presence on the world stage has thrown everything else into third place except for the Brits, where Brexit promises to be just as cataclysmic an event within a smaller context.
In the end, the choice of reading or not reading something that you may or may not like is a better option than censorship.
Rob
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1. There is no intention that it benefit nor not benefit photography.
The function of the Coffee Corner is the provision of a space - a tea or coffee shop? - where people with a common interest in photography (us) can also extend their conversation into other, broader, less narrow gulches (or dead ends) of life and its wondeful tapestry. How boring to think of one another as nothing but camera and computer geeks.
2. It's not broke; what has perhaps been realised is that treating the wider membership as mono-dimensional idiots perhaps of itself constitutes a bit of a danger of creating some break. We live in very interesting political times, and not having the space here, chez nous, as it were, to throw ideas around and see how others we half-know feel, is very frustrating.
If you look at the history of the CC you find all sorts of topics; it's simply that since the arrival upon the scene of the Orange One, his disruptive presence on the world stage has thrown everything else into third place except for the Brits, where Brexit promises to be just as cataclysmic an event within a smaller context.
In the end, the choice of reading or not reading something that you may or may not like is a better option than censorship.
Rob
1. While you have a case there, it is unjust to assume one looks at photographers as being "nothing but camera and computer geeks." Nothing farther from the truth.
Just look at the pictures they publish
Of course we interact with their "personas" or nicks, but that is also how it is in real life.
2. Actually I am not advocating censorship but the making it easier to avoid clicking on politics if you're not interested in the subject or the opinions of the others (see my original posting).
Just as I don't look into "For Sale" or "Pro Business Discussion".
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Now the politics are back we might as well leave things as they are. There's precious little else that's getting clicks on LuLa.
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...Just as I don't look into "For Sale" or "Pro Business Discussion".
Great! Add the Coffee Corner to that list.
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Just as I don't look into "For Sale" or "Pro Business Discussion".
The "for sale" forum is one of the most interesting for me! I've bought several things there and have sold a couple.
Kent in SD
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The "for sale" forum is one of the most interesting for me! I've bought several things there and have sold a couple.
Kent in SD
Of course. If I'd live in the US I would too.
But that's not the point, is it?
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Great! Add the Coffee Corner to that list.
Hmmm...
OK Slobodan. I'll try harder.
But this time pay more attention, yes?
Look:
Open "For Sale", you expect to find items for sale. right?
YES
Open "Pro Business Discussion" You expect some Pro Businesss Discussion. Right?
YES
But now you open "Coffee Corner" You expect to find coffee there Yes?
WRONG
There you find some items related and unrelated to photography, philosophy, whatever, all mixed up.
Among them it is politics.
Some members aren't interested in politics so they would REALLY like to avoid wasting time opening those topics.
One could use a filter like in LR. Just for example:
If "topic" doesn't contain "politics" then OPEN else IGNORE
Looks easier to me than Colour Management :)
Get it now?
Hope this helps 8)
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The only reason to re-enable political discussion is to increase posting. Is LuLa dying on the vine? Why not a wine forum, a car forum, a woodworking forum, a fill in the blank forum? It does nothing for the core mission of LuLa. It simply dilutes the content.
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Mis-reading the thread title as "Spitting Coffee Corner", I thought we were getting a new, even funnier humour thread.
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... Some members aren't interested in politics so they would REALLY like to avoid wasting time opening those topics...
Then do not open those topics.
A reasonably intelligent reader can deduct what the topic is about from its title. A hint for the reason-challenged: if it contains the following words in the title, something tells me it might be political: Trump, Mueller, AOC, Climate Change, Global Warming, Guns, Brexit, etc.
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Then do not open those topics.
A reasonably intelligent reader can deduct what the topic is about from its title. A hint for the reason-challenged: if it contains the following words in the title, something tells me it might be political: Trump, Mueller, AOC, Climate Change, Global Warming, Guns, Brexit, etc.
Slobodan...
Of course you are right.
But:
Have you seen those filters in, say, LR?
You don't want to scan visually your, say, 50'000 pictures until you find what you need.
You filter.
5 stars, Pick-Flag, Label Yellow, Text Contains "Rabanito", Date 2019...etc etc.
Thats how data banks make life easier
Try it.
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But now you open "Coffee Corner" You expect to find coffee there Yes?
No: "A forum for discussion of topics of a general nature, ideally related to photography."
Jeremy
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No: "A forum for discussion of topics of a general nature, ideally related to photography."
Jeremy
Exactly
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Exactly
Man! You made your point. Like, hundred times. Members said “no.” The moderator said “no.” Move on!
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Man! You made your point. Like, hundred times. Members said “no.” The moderator said “no.” Move on!
But of course, Slobodan. Watch your blood pressure.
I was just trying to explain you things I thought you didn't understand.
Out of courtesy, nothing else. 8)
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You read something like
"Super picture of NZ PM "
You go there, open the link and what do you find?
No super picture there IMHO
I call that misleading. I wasted my clicks ;D
True enough, my mistake. The ability to read is not enough. One must also have the ability to think.
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True enough, my mistake. The ability to read is not enough. One must also have the ability to think.
Go on trying. Miracles happen :)
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Go on trying. Miracles happen :)
You still here? Not exhausted from all that pointless clicking?