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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: jeremyrh on March 25, 2019, 10:17:36 am

Title: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: jeremyrh on March 25, 2019, 10:17:36 am
Story of how a photographer took an "Afghan girl" type image of NZ PM Jacinda Ardern after being locked out of a press event:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/25/an-image-of-hope-how-a-local-photographer-captured-the-famous-ardern-picture

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7ee751a1286c9c6f0c9b0e622b2cbd6ebd2fc425/0_360_2652_1591/master/2652.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=c0e345d66b1f3834c07689b415028bce)
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on March 26, 2019, 10:51:47 am
It is a meaningful photo no doubt. But in all honesty, the photog was not locked out, he simply arrived late to the event?
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: jeremyrh on March 30, 2019, 02:47:36 am
It is a meaningful photo no doubt. But in all honesty, the photog was not locked out, he simply arrived late to the event?

Possibly, I can't be bothered to check. The substantive point is that by chance he was not where he planned to be. But hey, thanks so much for your contribution.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 30, 2019, 06:42:38 am
Ahmm...
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: jeremyrh on March 31, 2019, 07:46:07 am
Ahmm...

Not sure what your point is - those aren't specially inspiring photos?
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 31, 2019, 11:52:31 am
Not sure what your point is - those aren't specially inspiring photos?

I am sure you at least guessed what my point is: pandering to the medieval primitivism by the NZ PM, in contrast to American and European female leaders.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: jeremyrh on March 31, 2019, 01:31:07 pm
I am sure you at least guessed what my point is: pandering to the medieval primitivism by the NZ PM, in contrast to American and European female leaders.

No, really not. I'm don't see where sympathising with people in their grief relates to "pandering to primitivism", but there ya go.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on April 03, 2019, 11:21:48 am
I am sure you at least guessed what my point is: pandering to the medieval primitivism by the NZ PM, in contrast to American and European female leaders.

I suppose none of the occasions portrayed in your examples were in the aftermath of a terrorist act that resulted in mortal victims?
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 03, 2019, 11:57:38 am
I suppose none of the occasions portrayed in your examples were in the aftermath of a terrorist act that resulted in mortal victims?

Irrelevant.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: OmerV on April 03, 2019, 04:59:52 pm
Well, maybe I’m alone here, but the photo is too sentimental(yeah, I don’t like it,) which I think makes her effort seem staged. But all politicians pander, in one way or another.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: rabanito on April 04, 2019, 06:27:35 am
Well, maybe I’m alone here, but the photo is too sentimental(yeah, I don’t like it,) which I think makes her effort seem staged. But all politicians pander, in one way or another.
Agree with that
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on April 04, 2019, 09:17:36 am
Irrelevant.

I don't thin so. At the very least, it shows respect for the culture and religious beliefs of the victims.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 04, 2019, 10:17:50 am
I don't thin so. At the very least, it shows respect for the culture and religious beliefs of the victims.

In which case, all the other examples I posted above showed disrespect? If so, there must be a good reason for that. And rightly so.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Telecaster on April 04, 2019, 04:41:06 pm
Living where I do, right next to the city of Dearborn in southeastern Michigan (look up its demographic profile), I've been privy to some healthy debate over the NZ PM's headscarf. It's most certainly not universally seen as a signifier of respect, particularly not so by some of the female university students (native born to native born parents…this makes a difference) I sometimes chat with at my local café.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on April 05, 2019, 04:50:47 am
In which case, all the other examples I posted above showed disrespect? If so, there must be a good reason for that. And rightly so.

I did not imply that. Your other examples, as I said before, are not occasions of grief for dead people.
Title: Re: Super picture of NZ PM - better lucky than rich!!
Post by: MarkJohnson on April 06, 2019, 02:34:40 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/06/jacinda-ardern-intuitive-courage-new-zealand?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other