Post by: PeterAit on November 09, 2018, 01:20:50 pm
but I thought I would float the idea.
Post by: Rob C on November 09, 2018, 02:10:09 pm
What do y'all think of creating a new forum topic for B&W photos? Perhaps it's a dumb idea and B&W photos should just be part of a another group,
but I thought I would float the idea.
It would be nice, but would it create anything positive?
Almost all my own work is b/w but apart from one or two others with similar feelings, is there likely to be critical mass?
I can see that it might lead to war games over film and digital capture legitimacy, which could be fun... whatever fun is.
I think that were it to be limited to film work, it would be interesting, but do enough filmies exist here?
Why not post a couple of shots in a new thread and see how it goes?
Best of luck!
Post by: Alan Klein on November 09, 2018, 03:37:11 pm
Post by: RSL on November 09, 2018, 04:02:30 pm
. . .but do enough filmies exist here?
Here's one, Rob. These are all from film, and I have many more from Korea, Thailand and Vietnam:
http://www.russ-lewis.com/photo_gallery/Ruins/index.html
http://www.russ-lewis.com/photo_gallery/The_Sixties/index.html
But a lot of it is legitimate street. That may jar some of our posters.
Post by: faberryman on November 09, 2018, 04:08:01 pm
Post by: RSL on November 09, 2018, 04:11:44 pm
Post by: BJL on November 09, 2018, 05:36:26 pm
And please, no film vs digital segregation!
Post by: Rob C on November 09, 2018, 05:58:23 pm
I’m generally opposed to fragmenting (segregating) topics; the internet has a bad tendency to cut off some communication due to that. So I would recommend experimenting with threads in existing forums—only if they start to overwhelm a forum with posts that most or having to dig past would a separate forum be desirable.
And please, no film vs digital segregation!
Agreed; it's why I suggested trying a new thread rather than section. If it grows, then perhaps it makes good sense to separate it.
Regarding the film or digital capture thing: there already exists a film and darkroom section here in LuLa - might it be a place for such a thread to begin, or would it have to exclude digital capture if it starts out there? No, might be better in the "art" section where no distinctions exist on that score.
Rob
Post by: Two23 on November 09, 2018, 06:59:44 pm
I shoot film and digital. I'm sure there are lots others.
For b&w I shoot film and.......glass plates. :) It's tremendous fun. I just got back a 1931 Baby Rolleiflex (4x4 on 127) from being fully CLA and put a roll of Efke 100 in it tonight. As for a dedicated forum, I guess I'm neutral. I would have "stuff" to contribute to it on a regular basis as I've been shooting pre-Civil War camera gear (lenses) more than digital the past month or two.
Kent in SD
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 09, 2018, 08:02:17 pm
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 09:46:40 am
I would suggest a thread in the Art of Photography section called "Black and white showcase -- all media."
Good, analytical thinking. My wife would have approved.
(She - my wife - seldom used "the look" because I knew better than get to that side of her. Sweetness and sunshine was a far wiser course to steer. Yes, I really did know how to manage that - I used to have to sell projects, remember!)
Maybe it could fit under the existing Photographic Styles section of the AoP and be able to retain its distinction from the other threads therein?
I suppose one thing would have to be made clear: is it or is it not to be a critiques welcomed thingy?
;-)
Post by: Ivophoto on November 10, 2018, 10:11:41 am
For b&w I shoot film and.......glass plates. :) It's tremendous fun. I just got back a 1931 Baby Rolleiflex (4x4 on 127) from being fully CLA and put a roll of Efke 100 in it tonight. As for a dedicated forum, I guess I'm neutral. I would have "stuff" to contribute to it on a regular basis as I've been shooting pre-Civil War camera gear (lenses) more than digital the past month or two.
Kent in SD
This is good!! Where would this fit on the freaking clock?
Post by: degrub on November 10, 2018, 11:10:26 am
This is good!! Where would this fit on the freaking clock?
That would be a lot of rewind for the clock. Don’t know that it would stand up to the abuse. :-\ :-\
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 11:46:59 am
That would be a lot of rewind for the clock. Don’t know that it would stand up to the abuse. :-\ :-\
I was just thinking of clocks this morning, and how they leap ahead in spring. Isn't it wonderful how, come New Year, they spring forward an entire year and nobody, other than I, even notices the gap?
Rob
Post by: 32BT on November 10, 2018, 11:57:44 am
That would be a lot of rewind for the clock. Don’t know that it would stand up to the abuse. :-\ :-\
Personally, i think that would be ample reason to try...
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 12:00:48 pm
Personally, i think that would be ample reason to try...
Send it to Geneva for repair; it'll be so expensive it'll be left in the dealership for ever, uncollected.
;-)
Post by: KLaban on November 10, 2018, 12:06:01 pm
Post by: degrub on November 10, 2018, 12:14:02 pm
How many contributors does it take to open a bloody thread?The same as for a light bulb ;)
Post by: Two23 on November 10, 2018, 12:16:18 pm
How many contributors does it take to open a bloody thread?
On most forums one or two, but here.........? ;D
Kent in SD
Post by: KLaban on November 10, 2018, 12:18:46 pm
The same as for a light bulb ;)
Yup.
Thank the Gods we don't have to change light bulbs here on LuLa, we'd be permanently in the dark.
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 12:19:04 pm
On most forums one or two, but here.........? ;D
Kent in SD
But then, photographers do it differently.
;-)
Post by: degrub on November 10, 2018, 12:21:06 pm
But then, photographers do it differently.
;-)
Just like a typist....click click click :D
Post by: 32BT on November 10, 2018, 12:25:35 pm
Yup.
Thank the Gods we don't have to change light bulbs here on LuLa, we'd be permanently in the dark.
How is that different from our current state? :o
Post by: Kevin Raber on November 10, 2018, 01:12:44 pm
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 01:33:22 pm
Sometime soon, Chris and I will be going over all the topics on the forum and looking at whether we need new ones or even consolidating ones already being used. We will note your desire to have a BW topic. We don't want the forum to become too daunting and many times what someone may comment on in BW is also relevant to color and would be missed if they didn't visit both topics. Always open to ideas so don't hesitate to comment on the forum or PM me.
Just don't forget that nothing can be all things to all men, and attempts to achieve it end in tears. If folks can't be bothered to look further than their nose, then it's their problem rather than LuLa's if they don't see everything, not that everyone wants to see everything, and I include myself very much in the limited interests box!
Good luck, and don't forget the baby/bathwater ridge, beyond which lie snipers!
Rob
Post by: BJL on November 10, 2018, 03:09:57 pm
Maybe it could fit under the existing Photographic Styles section of the AoP and be able to retain its distinction from the other threads therein?If the idea is sharing monochrome images and a bit of discussion of the shared images — as distinct from darkroom or black and white digital technique (which already have forums) and also distinct from more abstract discussion of photographic styles (which already has a forum), I think it belongs under "User Critiques". Though I would like to downplay the "critique" part!
I suppose one thing would have to be made clear: is it or is it not to be a critiques welcomed thingy?
Anyway a first ambit, which I am sure you folks will easily improve on: https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=127502.0
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 05:21:01 pm
If the idea is sharing monochrome images and a bit of discussion of the shared images — as distinct from darkroom or black and white digital technique (which already have forums) and also distinct from more abstract discussion of photographic styles (which already has a forum), I think it belongs under "User Critiques". Though I would like to downplay the "critique" part!
Anyway a first ambit, which I am sure you folks will easily improve on: https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=127502.0
I think you're probably right about that.
Rob
Post by: Telecaster on November 10, 2018, 09:58:35 pm
I was just thinking of clocks this morning, and how they leap ahead in spring. Isn't it wonderful how, come New Year, they spring forward an entire year and nobody, other than I, even notices the gap?
And sometimes they hold back an extra "leap" second just before New Year's Day to adjust for irregularities and a general slowing trend in Earth's axial rotation. :D
-Dave-
Post by: Rob C on November 11, 2018, 05:42:26 am
And sometimes they hold back an extra "leap" second just before New Year's Day to adjust for irregularities and a general slowing trend in Earth's axial rotation. :D
-Dave-
That slowing will eventually lead to a total stop, and axial rotation will be no more. It will turn Earth into a half-baked orange, reminding me of fried ice cream, a specialty of the Phoenicia Hotel in Valletta, Malta.
Specialty is also the label that Little Richard used in his heyday. Who needs photos to make connections? Well, other than "beautiful Ukrainian ladies seeking love with American gentlemans (sic)".
Before it stopped its spinning this world was a funny place.
Post by: degrub on November 11, 2018, 08:38:02 am
That slowing will eventually lead to a total stop, and axial rotation will be no more. It will turn Earth into a half-baked orange, reminding me of fried ice cream, a specialty of the Phoenicia Hotel in Valletta, Malta.Time for carrot delivery to the horse.
Specialty is also the label that Little Richard used in his heyday. Who needs photos to make connections? Well, other than "beautiful Ukrainian ladies seeking love with American gentlemans (sic)".
Before it stopped its spinning this world was a funny place.
Post by: PeterAit on November 12, 2018, 09:52:07 am
Post by: Rob C on November 12, 2018, 10:22:41 am
Time for carrot delivery to the horse.
Oh that horse! I thought I was being so kind to her, and I wandered over to her field a couple of days ago with a bag containing three carrots split in two, thus hoping to have her believe she was getting six carrots for the price of one grudging grunt of recognition, when a neighbour appeared from the other direction with a bag of freshly bought carrots from the supermarket, which he began to unload to her one by one. Reminded me of that song that goes something like: "he can buy you diamond rings, a million cars and all those things, (but all that I can offer you etc. etc.) so let the best man win". I don't think she can really count, though, so perhaps our thing will survive to the next round.
;-)
Post by: degrub on November 12, 2018, 11:20:57 am