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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: Frans Waterlander on October 12, 2018, 10:21:44 pm

Title: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Frans Waterlander on October 12, 2018, 10:21:44 pm
Without SageThumbs I don't get PSD thumbnails. With it, I don't get TIFF thumbnails if 100MB or more. Any ideas how I can have both?
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: digitaldog on October 13, 2018, 09:30:14 am
Without SageThumbs I don't get PSD thumbnails. With it, I don't get TIFF thumbnails if 100MB or more. Any ideas how I can have both?
DON’T use .PSD!
http://digitaldog.net/files/TIFFvsPSD.pdf
As for this “utility”:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3wl7o9/do_not_install_sagethumb_on_windows_10_it/
Where to go to get help (if that’s the goal) & and example of why:
https://sourceforge.net/p/sagethumbs/tickets/136/
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: TonyW on October 13, 2018, 01:25:13 pm
Without SageThumbs I don't get PSD thumbnails. With it, I don't get TIFF thumbnails if 100MB or more. Any ideas how I can have both?
As Sagethumbs can break Windows why not try Mystic Thumbs which does/should work for even older no longer supported Windows OS.  Not free but not too expensive IMHO
https://mysticcoder.net/MysticThumbs
Or
http://www.fastpictureviewer.com/codecs/
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Frans Waterlander on October 13, 2018, 01:46:35 pm
DON’T use .PSD!
http://digitaldog.net/files/TIFFvsPSD.pdf
As for this “utility”:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3wl7o9/do_not_install_sagethumb_on_windows_10_it/
Where to go to get help (if that’s the goal) & and example of why:
https://sourceforge.net/p/sagethumbs/tickets/136/

I'm reading your article and it says: "Both TIFF and PSD can contain a maximum of 30,000 pixels." I'm confused.
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: digitaldog on October 13, 2018, 01:48:54 pm
I'm reading your article and it says: "Both TIFF and PSD can contain a maximum of 30,000 pixels." I'm confused.
Confused about what? Don't use .PSD UNLESS you hit the limits and then, you're 'stuck' with PSB.
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=18965.msg134830#msg134830
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Frans Waterlander on October 13, 2018, 02:16:30 pm
Confused about what? Don't use .PSD UNLESS you hit the limits and then, you're 'stuck' with PSB.
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=18965.msg134830#msg134830

You say that both TIFF and PSD are limited to 30,000 pixels. Isn't that a typo?
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on October 13, 2018, 02:30:40 pm
You say that both TIFF and PSD are limited to 30,000 pixels. Isn't that a typo?

Hi Frans,

Yes, that is not correctly worded.

The limit is something like 32000 pixels in either dimension (width/height), or a maximum file size of 4 GigaBytes.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: faberryman on October 13, 2018, 02:37:26 pm
It may just be that SageThumbs doesn't have sufficient capability. It is freeware after all.
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: digitaldog on October 13, 2018, 04:23:37 pm
Hi Frans,

Yes, that is not correctly worded.

The limit is something like 32000 pixels in either dimension (width/height), or a maximum file size of 4 GigaBytes.

Cheers,
Bart
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1839908
Yes, max size which can greatly differ based on layers, bit depth or dimensions.
And more important,PSD is a proprietary and unnecessary format.
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on October 13, 2018, 05:40:32 pm
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1839908
Yes, max size which can greatly differ based on layers, bit depth or dimensions.
And more important,PSD is a proprietary and unnecessary format.

Photoshop CS6 gives the attached warning, which apparently doesn't apply for TIFFs, if one makes a file with e.g. 70000 pixels length, which saves just fine as a TIFF. Don't know if there even is a maximum as long as the total file size stays below 4 GB.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: digitaldog on October 13, 2018, 05:57:27 pm
Photoshop CS6 gives the attached warning, which apparently doesn't apply for TIFFs, if one makes a file with e.g. 70000 pixels length, which saves just fine as a TIFF. Don't know if there even is a maximum as long as the total file size stays below 4 GB.

Cheers,
Bart
When that article was written, CS4 was around, don’t honestly recall what error would pop. But the size limit existed for both. Either way, going back to post #2, there’s nothing useful in .PSD sans Duotone support and as Schewe points out, best to stick with TIFF unless you hit thise size limitations
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: Frans Waterlander on October 13, 2018, 06:27:07 pm
Thank you guys for your inputs. I'll stick with TIFF's so PSD thumbnails are not an issue and uninstall SageThumbs.
Title: Re: SageThumbs Codec doesn't work for 100MB+ TIFFs
Post by: digitaldog on October 13, 2018, 06:27:50 pm
Thank you guys for your inputs. I'll stick with TIFF's so PSD thumbnails are not an issue and uninstall SageThumbs.
Hooray!  :D ;D :)