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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Capture One Q&A => Topic started by: Paul Steunebrink on September 25, 2018, 09:37:47 am
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With the introduction of Capture One 11.3 today, two new running modes are added for a specific camera brand: Fujifilm.
Capture One Express Fujifilm (free) and Capture One Pro Fujifilm (paid, subscription) are now available.
Similar to the Sony modes the Express mode has a limited feature set but with the same well-known image quality. The Pro mode adds many features like layers and tethered support.
Interesting news is the support of the Fujifilm GFX 50S.
All paid Pro licenses (perpetual and subscription) and bundles with styles are available at the Phase One store (https://www.phaseone.com/Online-Store.aspx) for a reduced price with promotional code AMBALCHEMIST.
Details: 10% reduction on perpetual licenses, upgrades and styles; 5% reduction on subscriptions
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So how does this work for current CO Pro users? Will I be paying an additional fee to get the Pro Fuji mode, or is Pro mode included when I upgrade to 11.3?
Rich
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You don't pay anything else for the new Fuji camera availability. I just downloaded the new version this morning and finally, I can use C1 for the GFX files. Sweet! This is big for Fuji.
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How's the lensdistortion correction? Is it available? For what lenses? Also for aps-c files and lenses?
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You don't pay anything else for the new Fuji camera availability. I just downloaded the new version this morning and finally, I can use C1 for the GFX files. Sweet! This is big for Fuji.
Why is it big for Fuji ?
I can see for photographers' who would rather use C1 for processing this is welcome and Phase One with some additional sales of the software but in what way does Fuji benefit ?
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Because a lot of people were using C1 with their camera, but were forced back to Lightroom because the GFX wasn’t supported.
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I can see for photographers' who would rather use C1 for processing this is welcome and Phase One with some additional sales of the software but in what way does Fuji benefit ?
in what way Adobe supporting raw conversion for a particular camera model benefits sales of the said camera model ? so does P1 just on a smaller scale
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How's the lensdistortion correction? Is it available? For what lenses? Also for aps-c files and lenses?
Fuji writes optics correction data in their raw files -> P1 uses it ... in addition P1 provides their own lens profiles for some GF lenses
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Great for Fuji users but considering this is a full point feature update, Phase hasn't added any interesting features to C1 for nearly 12 months since the update to C1 11. Are they running out of ideas and decided to cash in by adding camera support that not too long ago, every dealer on here said they would never do.....
Hasselblad will be next, then they will go to the full subscription only and bin perceptual licences!
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Great for Fuji users but considering this is a full point feature update, Phase hasn't added any interesting features to C1 for nearly 12 months since the update to C1 11. Are they running out of ideas and decided to cash in by adding camera support that not too long ago, every dealer on here said they would never do.....
Hasselblad will be next, then they will go to the full subscription only and bin perceptual licences!
Some say that the Normalize tool in 11.1 (April) was a quite interesting thing (at least I do use it when an LCC shot is not convenient with the very dark ND filters I like to shoot with).
Add Styles to a Layer was another big thing added in 11.1. Might be interesting or not, it's up to you. I rarely use styles anyway.
Some might think that the Autocolumn feature in 11.2 (June) is quite important for the cultural heritage users (but it was fun to design and implement, I can tell you :) ). The same goes to the Slipstream mode in Win.
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It would be nice to see a pano tool, and an exposure blend if possible. Sure you can export images to photoshop, and create a pano, or ptgui, but these are tiff and IMO the best blending on a pano is done at the raw level.
Paul C
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Some say that the Normalize tool in 11.1 (April) was a quite interesting thing (at least I do use it when an LCC shot is not convenient with the very dark ND filters I like to shoot with).
Add Styles to a Layer was another big thing added in 11.1. Might be interesting or not, it's up to you. I rarely use styles anyway.
Some might think that the Autocolumn feature in 11.2 (June) is quite important for the cultural heritage users (but it was fun to design and implement, I can tell you :) ). The same goes to the Slipstream mode in Win.
No use to me in the day to day and not exactly earth shatteringly great new features. Don’t get me started on the styles implementation which looks like another avenue to earn more cash from users than a truly great point feature update.
What happened to all the questionnaires we filled out re photoshop and phase wanting to take some of its features on? Layer blending, path tools etc to really make us want to update rather than these lack luster upgrades? Sighhhh.......
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No use to me in the day to day and not exactly earth shatteringly great new features. Don’t get me started on the styles implementation which looks like another avenue to earn more cash from users than a truly great point feature update.
What happened to all the questionnaires we filled out re photoshop and phase wanting to take some of its features on? Layer blending, path tools etc to really make us want to update rather than these lack luster upgrades? Sighhhh.......
Almost every feature added in the last two years was user-request based.
What you're making note of us is that C1 is used by a broad variety of users (even if it is a narrower range than LR), so what is relevant to another user is not relevant to you.
For both practical and marketing reasons the features they tackle also tend to be clumped/thematic. That can lead to a bit of an annoyance for a given version when a given year goes by and their desired clumps/themes are not tackled. That does not mean your requests are being ignored.
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I’m not talking about the last two years just since version 11 was released. You can hardly call clumping CH version in with the standard version a requested feature.
So since the initial release of version 11, what stand out features have been added that does not relate to CH workflows???
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I couldn't be happier.
My chosen camera system and my chosen software bonded at the hip.
Way to go, Phase One, thrilled here. My GFX looms ever closer and someday, someday...
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I’m not talking about the last two years just since version 11 was released. You can hardly call clumping CH version in with the standard version a requested feature.
So since the initial release of version 11, what stand out features have been added that does not relate to CH workflows???
One man's standout feature is another man's CNCL ...
But here is the feature changes summary since 11.0 (excludes tweaks to the UI, bug fixes, speedups, and the addition of new camera models/lenses):
- 11.0.1 (Don't recall if 11.0.0 preceded it)
• Annotations
• Export with Assets
• Improved “Back-up And Restore” mechanism for Catalogs
• Duplicate checker for the Importer
• LAB Readouts
• Levels as a Layer Adjustment
• Color Balance as a Layer Adjustment
• Create new Filled Layer
• Presets for Layer capable tools
• Master Layer Opacity
• Feather Mask
• Refine Mask Edge
• Clear Mask
• Greyscale Mask preview mode
• Expanded AppleScript
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- 11.1.0 • New Normalize tool
• Create Style Layers from the Styles tool
• Enhanced LCC presets
• Expanded Apple Script
• Includes “SPRING” Style Pack - 11.2.0 • Capture One CH now selectable from the Capture One launch window
• “Slipstream” mode - a Simplified UI, with touch screen support (for Windows only)
• PPI-assist tool. Position an iXG camera on a copy stand to capture at a given PPI (for
Mac only, Note, iXG camera with Feature Update 2 firmware required)
• iXG camera extension tube support for 72mm and 120mm lenses (Feature Update #2
firmware required). - 11.2.1 No new features
- 11.3.0 • Capture One Pro Fujifilm
• Full feature set as in Capture One Pro edition
• Tethered support for supported Fujifilm cameras only
• RAW file support for supported Fujifilm cameras only
Cheers,
Bart
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One man's standout feature is another man's CNCL ...
Gosh, seems you lot are so easily pleased....... ;)
- 11.0.1 (Don't recall if 11.0.0 preceded it)
• Annotations
• Export with Assets
• Improved “Back-up And Restore” mechanism for Catalogs
• Duplicate checker for the Importer
• LAB Readouts
• Levels as a Layer Adjustment
• Color Balance as a Layer Adjustment
• Create new Filled Layer
• Presets for Layer capable tools
• Master Layer Opacity
• Feather Mask
• Refine Mask Edge
• Clear Mask
• Greyscale Mask preview mode
• Expanded AppleScript
I appreciate version 11 was a great release and layers are fab but some of the above is just adding back functions available in version 10 but with layers support rather than the local adjustments. Mask tools are great but since the initial release nothing further.
- 11.1.0 • New Normalize tool
• Create Style Layers from the Styles tool
• Enhanced LCC presets
• Expanded Apple Script
• Includes “SPRING” Style Pack - 11.2.0 • Capture One CH now selectable from the Capture One launch window
• “Slipstream” mode - a Simplified UI, with touch screen support (for Windows only)
• PPI-assist tool. Position an iXG camera on a copy stand to capture at a given PPI (for
Mac only, Note, iXG camera with Feature Update 2 firmware required)
• iXG camera extension tube support for 72mm and 120mm lenses (Feature Update #2
firmware required). - 11.2.1 No new features
- 11.3.0 • Capture One Pro Fujifilm
• Full feature set as in Capture One Pro edition
• Tethered support for supported Fujifilm cameras only
• RAW file support for supported Fujifilm cameras only
Cheers,
Bart
In the 10 or so months since 11.0.1, I see nothing there unless I was a Fuji user. :(
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Let’s return to this after the 12 is released, shall we?
I think there will be a few interesting features requested by the users in those questionary... :)
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I use Lightroom but was curious to see what C1's RAW converter was all about for Fuji files. When the free version came out I had no reason not to try it. I started reading the user manual and viewing the learning videos to get familiar with it. Unfortunately the learning material doesn't tell you that many of the features it describes are not available in the free Fuji version. If I knew that upfront I would not have wasted my time trying to figure out why it's not working for me. I think PhaseOne would be well served to update their materials with a notation "not available in free version" and prevent a lot of learning curve frustration for new users. For what it's worth that's my 2 cents! ;)
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Nice comments from David Glover of C1 on Fuji and the look of their images straight out of camera in their latest webinar on Black&Whites.
https://youtu.be/YDfnlNASkBQ
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I use Lightroom but was curious to see what C1's RAW converter was all about for Fuji files. When the free version came out I had no reason not to try it. I started reading the user manual and viewing the learning videos to get familiar with it. Unfortunately the learning material doesn't tell you that many of the features it describes are not available in the free Fuji version. If I knew that upfront I would not have wasted my time trying to figure out why it's not working for me. I think PhaseOne would be well served to update their materials with a notation "not available in free version" and prevent a lot of learning curve frustration for new users. For what it's worth that's my 2 cents! ;)
Hi Howard,
These are Express specific..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9DNl59qkM&list=PLBZS3EGK3tQ_fxAPOZF43-HSUYIUkQCkU
David
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Hi Howard,
These are Express specific..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9DNl59qkM&list=PLBZS3EGK3tQ_fxAPOZF43-HSUYIUkQCkU
David
Thanks David.
I now know that the Tool Tabs in the Express version cannot be repositioned. That doesn't present a big problem, but I found not being able to move the Navigator so it can be used with tool tabs other than Detail, to be very annoying. Maybe that's something that can be remedied in a future update.
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I am a Fuji shooter and Lightroom processor. I downloaded the new Capture One Express for Fuji for evaluation. I cannot locate the equivalent of Lightoom's Transform series of adjustment in Capture One Express. Do they exist?
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What does Transform in LR do?
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What does Transform in LR do?
correction of vertical or horizontal perspective distortion.
In Capture One it is the Keystone tool but possibly only available in the Pro version, not the free Express version.
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So it appears, no Keystone in the Express edition.
https://www.phaseone.com/en/Capture-One/Features/Feature-Comparison.aspx
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Thanks for the link to the comparison chart. Capture One Express for Sony and Fujifilm is significant hobbled. Little reason to move from LR.
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Thanks for the link to the comparison chart. Capture One Express for Sony and Fujifilm is significant hobbled. Little reason to move from LR.
Hi,
There is another difference, Capture One Express comes free with the camera, LR is pay-ware/subscription-ware.
And another difference is in the quality of the Raw conversions ...
Cheers,
Bart
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And another difference is in the quality of the Raw conversions...
I have not seen a comparison of C1 vs. LR Fuji RAW conversions, so I don't know if one is better than the other. If you have a link, that would be great.
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If you have a Fuji you will see significant improvement. Generally Iridient Developer is deemed the best for X-Trans, quickly followed by Capture One. Lightroom never meeting either of them, you have to work them more. I came across a few Iridient to Lightroom workflows, I myself use Capture One for 95% of my photography and an Iridient Developer - Capture One workflow for the key 5% I'm printing big.
There's been a ton of comparative reviews over the years as I'm sure you'll find when you look...
You can download C1 of course and compare. C1 is quite an investment in learning, but perhaps the Express version is quicker to pick up.
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Have another issue and would appreciate your thoughts.
According to the User Manual, in the Windows version you can enter Full Screen mode by pressing F11 on the keyboard. The Browser, Menu, Toolbar and tools are all hidden for an uncluttered look. When I press F11 nothing happens.
I'm also running C1 Express Fuji on a Macbook Pro and per the instructions when I press Ctrl+Cmd+F to access Full Screen mode it works.
Any thoughts on why it's not working in Windows?
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Does the laptop have the equivalent of the 'fn' key on Mac laptops? One which you hold and tap the F11 button to activate?
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Thanks David.
I now know that the Tool Tabs in the Express version cannot be repositioned. That doesn't present a big problem, but I found not being able to move the Navigator so it can be used with tool tabs other than Detail, to be very annoying. Maybe that's something that can be remedied in a future update.
If you have the Pan cursor tool selected (H - Keyboard shortcut), then CTRL-click on the image in the viewer and you get a mini pop up Navigator.
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Have another issue and would appreciate your thoughts.
According to the User Manual, in the Windows version you can enter Full Screen mode by pressing F11 on the keyboard. The Browser, Menu, Toolbar and tools are all hidden for an uncluttered look. When I press F11 nothing happens.
I'm also running C1 Express Fuji on a Macbook Pro and per the instructions when I press Ctrl+Cmd+F to access Full Screen mode it works.
Any thoughts on why it's not working in Windows?
Check in the View menu to see what the Keyboard shortcut is for full screen. I am not in front of a PC right now so can't verify if it is indeed F11.
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Check in the View menu to see what the Keyboard shortcut is for full screen. I am not in front of a PC right now so can't verify if it is indeed F11.
It is F11.
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Does the laptop have the equivalent of the 'fn' key on Mac laptops? One which you hold and tap the F11 button to activate?
The F11 key on a Windows desktop keyboard is a dedicated key not requiring a "fn" key.
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If you have the Pan cursor tool selected (H - Keyboard shortcut), then CTRL-click on the image in the viewer and you get a mini pop up Navigator.
Thanks for the suggestion. Tried doing that and no pop-up Navigator appears. So neither that feature or pressing F11 for a full screen view work on my install of C1 Fuji Express for Windows. Any further thoughts?
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Thanks for the suggestion. Tried doing that and no pop-up Navigator appears. So neither that feature or pressing F11 for a full screen view work on my install of C1 Fuji Express for Windows. Any further thoughts?
Just figured out how the Pan cursor tool works. Once it's selected you need to CTRL-Double click on the image and that increases the image in the viewer window to 100% magnification. No pop-up Navigator appears.
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Just figured out how the Pan cursor tool works. Once it's selected you need to CTRL-Double click on the image and that increases the image in the viewer window to 100% magnification. No pop-up Navigator appears.
You don't need to control double click to zoom in. Just double click with the pan cursor tool.
Once at 100% ctrl or right click and the navigator pops up. Or simply click-drag to move around the image.
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You don't need to control double click to zoom in. Just double click with the pan cursor tool.
Once at 100% ctrl or right click and the navigator pops up. Or simply click-drag to move around the image.
Thanks so much for the clarification. Now I'm able to get the Navigator pop-up!
If we could only figure out how to get the Full Screen feature to work ;) ;) ;)
I must say I'm enjoying working with C1. I definitely see a major improvement over Lightroom in processing Fuji RAW files and find the slider controls much more precise, not to mention it seems much faster executing commands.
Thanks for hanging out here and providing this support.
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Check in the View menu to see what the Keyboard shortcut is for full screen. I am not in front of a PC right now so can't verify if it is indeed F11.
After doing some searching I came across a thread on the Phase One User Forum that raises the same issue of not being able to get a full screen image of a photo in C1 on a Windows O/S. See this link for details https://forum.phaseone.com/En/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=26440
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Thanks so much for the clarification. Now I'm able to get the Navigator pop-up!
If we could only figure out how to get the Full Screen feature to work ;) ;) ;)
I must say I'm enjoying working with C1. I definitely see a major improvement over Lightroom in processing Fuji RAW files and find the slider controls much more precise, not to mention it seems much faster executing commands.
Thanks for hanging out here and providing this support.
You;re welcome, Howard!