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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: texshooter on January 24, 2018, 04:42:20 am

Title: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: texshooter on January 24, 2018, 04:42:20 am
Was this discontinued?   Is there a close substitute available?  Another favorite bites dust. I give up.
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: Simon J.A. Simpson on January 24, 2018, 05:05:03 am
Is this what you mean ?

GALERIE Prestige Gloss 260gsm (http://ilford.com/products/photo-inkjet/galerie-prestige/gloss-260gsm)
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: texshooter on January 24, 2018, 05:27:28 am
Quote from: Simon J.A. Simpson on January 24, 2018, 05:05:03 am
Is this what you mean ?

GALERIE Prestige Gloss 260gsm (http://ilford.com/products/photo-inkjet/galerie-prestige/gloss-260gsm)

No, this.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/884713-REG/Ilford_2001758_Galerie_Prestige_Smooth_High.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/884713-REG/Ilford_2001758_Galerie_Prestige_Smooth_High.html)
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: Denis de Gannes on January 24, 2018, 05:55:06 am
Quote from: texshooter on January 24, 2018, 05:27:28 am
No, this.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/884713-REG/Ilford_2001758_Galerie_Prestige_Smooth_High.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/884713-REG/Ilford_2001758_Galerie_Prestige_Smooth_High.html)

Its not listed on Ilford new site products either.
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on January 24, 2018, 06:59:43 am
In my opinion it was never available from the new owners of the Ilford name, since 2014, after the closure of the original Ilford Imaging Marly-Swiss plant. I put its spectral plot in the Obsolete map of SpectrumViz then. It is a film base medium. The other distributor, Bonjet, that sold it under another label has ceased delivery too. You may have got stock from distributors since but there might be no stock anymore. The Canon spectral plot looks a bit similar, weight is said to be 235 gsm, but I do not think it is available anymore either.

http://www.bonjetmedia.com/en/bonjet/graphic/bj3gwf175

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
March 2017 update, 750+ inkjet media white spectral plots
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: dgberg on January 24, 2018, 08:45:32 am
Ilford's Prestige smooth Hi-gloss has several matches.
Pictorico Pro Hi-Gloss white film and Oriental Graphica Hi-Gloss white film has one at 50% less cost then the other two.


Just checked the price and there is way more difference then I thought.

Pictorico 20 sheets 13x19 - $79.99
Graphica 20 sheets 13x19 - $17.20

Print with a dye ink on these films and it has that pure Cibachrome look.
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: texshooter on January 25, 2018, 03:32:48 am
Quote from: Dan Berg on January 24, 2018, 08:45:32 am
Ilford's Prestige smooth Hi-gloss has several matches.
Pictorico Pro Hi-Gloss white film and Oriental Graphica Hi-Gloss white film has one at 50% less cost then the other two.


But I wonder if they are similar to Ilford  spectrally.
Title: Re: What happened to Ilford Prestige Smooth High Gloss?
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on January 25, 2018, 04:37:37 am
Quote from: texshooter on January 25, 2018, 03:32:48 am
But I wonder if they are similar to Ilford  spectrally.

They are not but what is more important; the gloss or a hardly shifted white point?  Not to mention availability ;-)  OBA content is in all PET gloss varieties, including the Ilford no longer there.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
March 2017 update, 750+ inkjet media white spectral plots