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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Rdmax on March 31, 2017, 01:49:48 pm
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Hi there,
Having a hard time finding a camera bag that fits a big system like P1 or Hasselblad... any suggestions on what's worked for you?
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I use the ThinkTank airport navigator. It holds an H5X with a back, 4 lenses and my H1.
https://www.thinktankphoto.com/collections/airport-series/products/airport-navigator
-Doug
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I use a Mindshift Backlight 26L. In it I can fit:
IQ260 on a sliding back
Arca Swiss RM3Di
Phase One XF Body (VF removed and wrapped separately)
Three Lenses for the Arca body
Two lenses for the XF body
Bunch of Lee filters and filter holder
Battery charger
Sensor cleaning kit
iPad
Misc items
I did need to cut down and sew the interior dividers to get the Arca Body to fit, which I position laying down.
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Depends on what the job is...but generally I use a ThinkTank Airport international. It holds a tech cam, H w/ sensor attached, and a bunch of lenses and other stuff comfortably. I have also used smaller bags if it is just a quick shoot. An Urban Disguise 60, or even the Retro 7 can hold a medium format body/sensor/lens just fine...without much else. Backpack on rare occasions...the F-Stop Gear Pro medium slope and large inserts can hold a Hasselblad F just fine. Still have room for a little extra kit too.
If you have something as modular as an H system, ive taken it apart and fit it along with sensor and lenses in something as small as a small tenba insert. Obviously ultra inconvenient...
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If you want to hike with it I still haven't found anything more comfortable and useable than the f-stop backpacks.
If you mean for airports where rollers are an option, then I think it is hard to beat the wide range of Think Tank options.
Dave
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Hi there,
Having a hard time finding a camera bag that fits a big system like P1 or Hasselblad... any suggestions on what's worked for you?
I Use Mindshift 40L to lug a H5D and Leica SL system. Hasselblad 35-90mm, 150mm and 24mm can all be placed upright, thus leaving lots of space free. The smaller Mindshift 30L is also a good option but 35-90 would probably have to lie flat.
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If you're looking for a shoulder bag rather than backpack, my favorite is the LowePro Medium Format Commercial AW. Unfortunately, it seems to be discontinued. The Magnum 650 looks similar, so it may work.
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I Use Mindshift 40L to lug a H5D and Leica SL system. Hasselblad 35-90mm, 150mm and 24mm can all be placed upright, thus leaving lots of space free. The smaller Mindshift 30L is also a good option but 35-90 would probably have to lie flat.
A bit off-topic but what do you use the SL for? Curious as I'm looking for a full frame solution to accompany the medium format.
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Hi,
I use a Gura Gear Bataflae 32L. Can take an incredible lot of gear, fits overhead lockers in Canadair/Bombardier regional jet and weights about 2kg.
Best regards
Erik
Hi there,
Having a hard time finding a camera bag that fits a big system like P1 or Hasselblad... any suggestions on what's worked for you?
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Two days into the discussion and nobody has mentioned f-stop yet ;D
Anyway, here's my suggestion, super light and super modular / flexible, however you want to call it. I use a system of Tenba pouches in mine, which makes packing and unpacking sure easy and saves me from forgetting stuff from time to time. When I pack, I just move the pouches from my dry cabinet into the bag, and do the reverse when I unpack after a shoot. All the bits and pieces of accessories are already in those pouches stacked away between lenses and backs.
The good thing about the f-stop is that it doesn't look like a camera bag (which often says "steal me") and it also wears much more comfortable during longer walks and I've tried many photography dedicated brands to find out myself and came back to the f-stop every time.
The back opening design is also very handy, and I know this has been discussed many times, but I cannot emphasise enough, sure, it doesn't really matter if the bag is sitting on the pristine carpet of a brand new MiuMiu store, but when it's in the mud and snow, it sure make a huge difference (and I admit, I have a bit of OCD......okay, okay, I have severe OCD).
When traveling, I just keep everything in the bag and put the tripod in a small carry-on size suitcase together with my other stuff and just push the whole thing through the airport. For longer trips, I'll put the tripod in my checked luggage and carry the f-stop on my back.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2910/32923611424_ed331cd7a7_c.jpg)
And some behind the scenes shots:
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At the moment, I have a Tilopa with a modified Cine Master ICU inside for my ALPA system (rhigh now it fits the 12MAX body with 4 lenses and digital back). Modified because I needed the depth in order to put the Max camera body sideways without it protruding into my back.
As currently configured, I would easily fit in the Phase One XF camera and 4 to 5 lenses plus filters, batteries and carious accessories. On top of this, there's still space for my wallet, a fleece and a jacket.
Of course, being an f-stop, you could go for a smaller ICU or smaller bag to suit your needs.
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I use a bunch of Lowepro stuff: ProRunner 350 AW, and old Elite III, Event Messenger 250 (I use it as daily driver, I always bring my Nikon FM2 around even on work trips).
Very solid stuff, I don't treat my bags with care when in the field yet they all still look like new. The Elite III has surprised me especially, that bag is as old as me!
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I prefer to limit what I carry. In a Billingham Hadley Pro I can fit the essentials.
To a Hasselblad 500 C/M with a CFV-50c back I can ad 3 lenses (80mm, 250mm and a wide angle 30mm or 40mm). The Hardely also accomodates an iPad, cards, filter, extra batteries and other odds and ends.
Counts as a carry on camera bag when flying.
And it looks nice…
/Eric
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Hi there,
Having a hard time finding a camera bag that fits a big system like P1 or Hasselblad... any suggestions on what's worked for you?
Like others here, for those times when I need a backpack, the F-Stop Anja has been the best option I have found. The Large Pro ICU is very customizable and fits my H5D with a lens on it just fine and can also carry three other lenses (including the massive 50-110mm zoom) and accessories in the ICU. That leaves the rest of the pack for other items.
When I am rolling, I opt for the Pelican 1510 hard shell case and have the TrekPak dividers in it which really helps organize things nicely.
Cheers, Michael
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I use an F-Stop Satori Exp, now replaced by the slightly larger Sukha model. F-Stop as a company have had some management problems and failed to deliver bags. I don't know what the current status is now though, but I would recommend to make sure that it's "in stock" before ordering.
What I like with the F-Stop backpacks compared to many others is the flexible ICU system and that the backpacks have many design features of hiking/climbing backpacks, that is more designed to actually be used long days out in nature rather than just being carried around on an airport. Still there are compromises though, with 10 - 12 kg gear the carry comfort is not as good as a well-designed hiking backpack. The key problem is that the hip belt cannot be designed to offload weight as much as that would make it more bulky and partially block the ability to get that big opening in the bag you need for the camera gear.
I don't carry the tripod on the F-Stop, but rather hold it in my hand or over my shoulders. The tripod with head is almost 3 kg, and it makes the bag awfully unbalanced if attached to it.
For the times I need to bring camping gear along, I take out the ICU from the Satori and load it into a huge military backpack designed to carry 40+ kg (due to my limited fitness I try to stay below 25 kg though :) ). In that case the backpack is big and heavy enough to load the tripod without getting bad balance.
Anyway, say what you want about medium format, but it's a good motivator to stay in reasonable shape...
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Anyway, say what you want about medium format, but it's a good motivator to stay in reasonable shape...
I feel like a pack mule some trips, no matter the bag.
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I feel like a pack mule some trips, no matter the bag.
I know the feeling. I'm just now trying to sort out how I'm going to carry my MF kit on an upcoming trip. I am partial to my f-stop Tilopa w/large ICU (which leaves some room at the top of the main compartment for a jacket etc.), but schlepping it through the airport together with another carry-on bag isn't so appealing. Then I discovered that the large ICU fits just about perfectly in a 20" rollaboard, with just enough clearance to add a few stray items along the top plus some extra padding above and below. I'll pack my backpack with clothes etc., strap the tripod to the side of it and stick the whole thing in a rolling duffel, which will go as checked baggage. When I get to my destination, I'll unload the pack, move the ICU (w/gear) into it and be ready to go.
John
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A bit off-topic but what do you use the SL for? Curious as I'm looking for a full frame solution to accompany the medium format.
I need a backup camera for H5D in case it breaks or stops working temporarily. I also like to have a second camera that is more portable and easier to use handheld than H5D. That camera should also be usable in inclement weather. I have been using Nikon D810 and Sony A7rII as full frame complement to H5D, but for landscape I prefer Leica SL.
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If I'm traveling internationally and want to make sure that I can carry my camera bag on I use a Gura Gear Bataflae 26. I can pack my XF100 with the 40-80 zoom attached and the 150/3.5 on one side and my Nikon 810 with the a 24-70 mounted and a 70-200/4 on the other side. I then carry a small roller briefcase (I can stuff more stuff in it) that I can attach the camera bag to for easy transport through the airport. So far, I have always been allowed to carry both items on the plane.
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Two days into the discussion and nobody has mentioned f-stop yet ;D
See post #4
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OP
Not sure what you mean by the word "finding" so that is why you are getting suggestions all over the map.
I use my TT Airport International for XF+100, 240, 35, 55, 110 150 and 2x plus Nisi filters and holder and lots extras like the Smart-Flex L bracket for airplanes or where I can roll my gear to a shooting which is rare for me. If traveling then I stuff small clothing into my f-stop Loka packpack with ICU(s) for field work and it also takes all the gear I mention above. Sure heavy, but it holds it all. Not having much luck with hiring Cherpas, but always looking.
As an addition if I head into the field with a light load then I can put my XF+100+35 in one sdie and two 72mm lenses (or the 240 lens) in the opposite side using the TT Speed Racer which attaches to waist and/or shoulder or both for weight distribution.
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Two days into the discussion and nobody has mentioned f-stop yet ;D
Actually f-stop was mentioned in the 4th reply by Dave Chew.
The challenge with f-stop is getting the bags. Last time I ordered one it took them 4 months. Their challenges with inventory are well known. Not sure if things have improved or not.
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The challenge with f-stop is getting the bags. Last time I ordered one it took them 4 months. Their challenges with inventory are well known. Not sure if things have improved or not.
No improvements on this front. It's still taking months to fill orders. Folks in customer service are polite and sincere, but they usually are not able to provide any concrete time frame of order fulfillment. Their response is "orders will start shipping in early spring" - whatever that means. Also, the website may indicate an item to be in stock, then a few weeks later customer service will inform you that the website is actually incorrect. Hopefully, their bags really are worth the wait.
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Actually f-stop was mentioned in the 4th reply by Dave Chew.
And even the post before that, from Tony.
Jeff
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F-stop is shady and I believe a lot of people have left the company. I got burned on their kickstarter and they told me they would make it right. They never have. Read the comments on this Petapixel Or Resource articles to get a sense of what is going on.
http://resourcemagonline.com/2016/08/an-inside-look-at-f-stop-a-bag-company-falling-apart-at-the-seams/68877/
https://petapixel.com/2016/08/08/f-stop-gear-pulls-plug-kitsentry-wont-refund-backers/
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I've always had good results with F-stop and have three of their bags. I just got their smaller Gura UL type, as I was finding I just loaded the larger bags with too much stuff. All sorts of other bags have been tried, and nothing seems as good. They are made for hiking and walking, not for looking like photo packs.
The best of the bunch was the Fstop loka, from about 4 years ago; a Lotus was added, lighter in weight, but not quite as nice as the earlier one. But the lightness is nice, and that's the bag largely used. The Gura UL was for carrying just a camera and a lens or two, for the day hike. Its a bit cumbersome getting in and out, but the overall detailing and quality is there. Something about F-stop bags is just well thought through.
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I can only speak good about fstop. Amazing backpacks. Some of the best out there.
I have three bags and I'm really happy. Love the ICU system.
What is correct is that delivery can be a annoying.
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RE f-stop, I ordered the Ajna (the Loka replacement) in December 2016 and I was informed just the other day that it is due to be shipped early May. That is a long time to hold someones money. Thinking inventory, it seems they utilize funds from orders to pay for inventory production. This makes me wonder if they have any funds at all other than mine.
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I ordered the Guru UL on Monday. It shipped out the same day.
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I just received the Guru UL and the Medium Slope ICU that I ordered last week. The basic quality of the components is excellent, as has been my experience with F Stop gear. However, there is one thing about the system that I really don't like, and that is that the opening into the back of the backpack after you unzip it is somewhat smaller than the ICU. The backpack opening overlaps part of the ICU, which makes it somewhat difficult to get lenses into and out of the compartments on the sides of the ICU. I found the same thing with the Tilopa, but not as severe.
Why isn't anything ever perfect!
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What is the largest ICU one can fit into that Guru XL?
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What is the largest ICU one can fit into that Guru XL?
Based on their ordering page, the medium slope or the small pro are the largest that will fit.
Dave
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What is the largest ICU one can fit into that Guru XL?
The Medium Slope, which is the one I have inserted, is taller than the Small Pro by 3 inches. The width is the same. 11 inches.