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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: The View on November 02, 2016, 11:36:29 pm

Title: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: The View on November 02, 2016, 11:36:29 pm
Several lenses have, as it seems, and older and a newer version, like the Hasselblad HC 50mm.

On eBay, many don't seem to post if it's the older or the newer version they are selling.

Is there a source of information where you can look up the version of the lens by its MPN / unit number?
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: NickT on November 03, 2016, 12:53:31 am
There are two II lenses. The 50II and the 120II. I would think that anyone selling a version II would be sure to mention it.

Any brand new lens (orange square) will be a II.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: hasselbladfan on November 03, 2016, 03:48:49 am
Ask a picture of the lens.

The (better) II version has a II printed in white next to 50mm.
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: jvpictures on November 03, 2016, 04:20:55 am
also the 150 mm f/3.2 comes in 2 versions. The newer one is marked with a "N" on the filter thread.
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: delfalex on November 03, 2016, 08:12:14 am
The newer one is marked with a "N" on the filter thread.

Which suffers a lot less from Yellow/Blue fringing
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: tcdeveau on November 03, 2016, 10:01:29 am
The newer lenses that sync at 1/2000th (on the H6D bodies) also have an orange square next to the "HC" or "HCD" on the lens barrel
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: The View on November 05, 2016, 03:15:46 am
There are two II lenses. The 50II and the 120II. I would think that anyone selling a version II would be sure to mention it.

Any brand new lens (orange square) will be a II.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, Nick!
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: The View on November 05, 2016, 03:17:20 am
also the 150 mm f/3.2 comes in 2 versions. The newer one is marked with a "N" on the filter thread.

Thanks. With "on the filter thread" you mean the circular imprint on the metal part surrounding the front element?
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: jvpictures on November 05, 2016, 05:17:29 am
Thanks. With "on the filter thread" you mean the circular imprint on the metal part surrounding the front element?

check image (sorry from iPhone...)
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: cmarker on November 06, 2016, 11:37:11 am
I also ask the seller for the serial number to find out the year it was made.
http://hasselbladhistorical.eu/HT/HTDating.aspx

Does anyone know whether the 100mm HCD has different versions?
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: delfalex on November 06, 2016, 12:52:32 pm
Does anyone know whether the 100mm HCD has different versions?

AFAIK The HC100mm is one of the original H line lenses, with no new version other than the faster 1/2000th Shutter. HCD[igital] lenses extend to cover the 24, 28 & 35-90mm (zoom), focal lengths. HC150(mm) had a 2nd version: "N". With the advent of of the H4D 200ms, Hasselblad updated two focal lengths; 50 & 120 with a version II.



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Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: Chris Livsey on November 06, 2016, 01:43:26 pm
I also ask the seller for the serial number to find out the year it was made.
http://hasselbladhistorical.eu/HT/HTDating.asp

The year of manufacture is less relevant than the number of shutter activations which can be accessed from the H body menu when the lens is attached.
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: landscapephoto on November 06, 2016, 03:01:00 pm
AFAIK The HC100mm is one of the original H line lenses, with no new version other than the faster 1/2000th Shutter. HCD[igital] lenses extend to cover the 24, 28 & 35-90mm (zoom), focal lengths. HC150(mm) had a 2nd version: "N". With the advent of of the H4D 200ms, Hasselblad updated two focal lengths; 50 & 120 with a version II.

I would need to check, but the H system was introduced at Photokina 2002 with the following lenses:
HC 35mm f/3.5
HC 80mm f/2.8
HC150mm f/3.2 (non-N)
HC 50-110mm f/3.5-f/4.5 zoom
converter 1.7X

The following year (2003), these lenses were introduced:
HC 50mm f/3.5 (version I)
HC 120mm f/4 (version I)
HC 210mm f/4

I am not sure when the HC 100mm f/2.2 and HC 300mm f/3.5 were introduced, probably 2003 or 2004.

Later, the following lenses were introduced:
HCD 28 (2006)
HC 150-N (2007)
HCD 35-90 and HTS (2008)
HC 50-II and HC 120-II (2010)
HCD 24 (2012)

Apparently, the optical differences between the HC150 and HC150N are minimal. From this post at the time (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=20171.0) "The Hasselblad HC 150mm f/3.2N designates a mid-production change to the optical design of the HC 150, pretaining to the zero-lead initiative in optical and electronic designs coming out of Europe. The optical design itself is practically identical, however the glass / optical formulation(s) are different. Physically the lens is identical to the earlier version, with the exception of the "N" designation."
Title: Re: How do you tell older and newer versions of Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses apart?
Post by: The View on November 06, 2016, 04:44:22 pm
check image (sorry from iPhone...)

Thank you!