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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Doug Peterson on September 20, 2016, 04:13:23 am
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Phase One Announcements for Photokina:
Phase One IQ1 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-announcement-phase-one-iq1-100/) - Same image quality as the IQ3 100mp, minus a few features, at a lower price (https://digitaltransitions.com/product/phase-one-iq1-100mp-digital-back/)
IQ3 Kit Update (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-phase-one-iq3-redux/) - The 5-year warranty now covers unlimited number of captures and you get a prime lens of your choice with purchase
Schneider 150LS f/2.8 Blue Ring and Schneider 45LS Blue Ring (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-schneider-150mm-f2-8-ls-schneider-45mm-ls/) - Both new optics in the same league as the coveted Schneider 35LS Blue Ring. Raw files available at link.
Capture One 9.3 and 25% Off (https://digitaltransitions.com/capture-one-9-3-discount-and-styles/) - In-C1 support for Eizo self calibrating monitor calibration, and support for new cameras and lenses. Discounted promo for the next week.
And there is even more to come after Kina.
Questions on any of the above? Post them here or contact us (https://digitaltransitions.com/contact-us/). We have members of our team at Photokina meeting with Phase One executives now, and should be able to get answers quickly.
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Hi Doug,
Thanks for the updates.
Is there already a table to be found comparing the IQ1 and IQ3?
Thank you.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Is there already a table to be found comparing the IQ1 and IQ3?
So glad you asked! I just so happen to have made one just for this occasion...
Phase One IQ1 100mp vs IQ3 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/phase-one-iq1-100mp-vs-iq3-100mp/)
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So glad you asked! I just so happen to have made one just for this occasion...
Phase One IQ1 100mp vs IQ3 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/phase-one-iq1-100mp-vs-iq3-100mp/)
Thanks Doug. ;)
It is nice to see that P1 is becoming more aware about the importance of price for some buyers.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Does IQ1-100 means that the back can now work on Mamiya AFD & P1DF/+ cameras? Are there other mounts for third party platforms provided?
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Does IQ1-100 means that the back can now work on Mamiya AFD & P1DF/+ cameras? Are there other mounts for third party platforms provided?
The Phase One IQ3 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/product/phase-one-iq3-100mp-system/) and Phase One IQ1 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/product/phase-one-iq1-100mp-digital-back/), and all other IQ backs (https://digitaltransitions.com/xf-100mp-camera-system/) work on the P1 DF+ camera.
Both backs are available in H mount (for H1,H2, H4X, H5X) or M mount (for DF/DF+/XF) and have built in batteries and sync inputs to allow use on tech cameras such as the newly announced Cambo Wide RS1600 (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-release-cambo-wrs-1600-tech-cam/) or any other Cambo/Arca/Alpa/etc tech/view body.
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Well that sucks, just got the 150 2.8 less than a month ago since the 150 3.5 was a big disappointment.
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Well that sucks, just got the 150 2.8 less than a month ago since the 150 3.5 was a big disappointment.
That's bad timing! Speak with your dealer, maybe they can help.
Check out the raw files linked to at the bottom of here: Schneider 150LS Blue Ring Raw Files (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-schneider-150mm-f2-8-ls-schneider-45mm-ls/) - it's a beast.
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That's bad timing! Speak with your dealer, maybe they can help.
Check out the raw files linked to at the bottom of here: Schneider 150LS Blue Ring Raw Files (https://digitaltransitions.com/kina-schneider-150mm-f2-8-ls-schneider-45mm-ls/) - it's a beast.
Any word on how speedy its autofocus is?
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Any word on how speedy its autofocus is?
I'll have to wait until final production units ship around November to give a complete/definitive answer. We should have them at our NYC and LA offices before then, and I assume your dealer will have one local to you as well.
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Earlier today one of the lens raw files was mistakingly left out of our public raw catalog. That has now been corrected.
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Than you for the comparison, Doug.
"break" in the second para with the car analogy should be "brake" unless you really mean "break" in the sense of "breakdown".
Also, the asterisked note at the end of the comparison states that one sensor unit has improved performance for long exposures but you do not state which one. Would you please identify the sensor unit with the improved performance in this area.
Roger
So glad you asked! I just so happen to have made one just for this occasion...
Phase One IQ1 100mp vs IQ3 100mp (https://digitaltransitions.com/phase-one-iq1-100mp-vs-iq3-100mp/)
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Than you for the comparison, Doug.
"break" in the second para with the car analogy should be "brake" unless you really mean "break" in the sense of "breakdown".
Thanks! Corrected.
Also, the asterisked note at the end of the comparison states that one sensor unit has improved performance for long exposures but you do not state which one. Would you please identify the sensor unit with the improved performance in this area.
That line reads "*The IQ3 60mp and IQ3 80mp sensors differ from their IQ1 counterparts. Performance at short shutter speeds (e.g. 1/60th) is very similar, but performance for long exposures (e.g. 90 seconds) is dramatically improved." – is further clarification needed?
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No correction is required, Doug. I had read your comment as referring to the two 100MP backs but I now see the comment is between the IQ3 and IQ1 sensors mentioned and it is clear which ones you say have the improved performance.
Roger
That line reads "*The IQ3 60mp and IQ3 80mp sensors differ from their IQ1 counterparts. Performance at short shutter speeds (e.g. 1/60th) is very similar, but performance for long exposures (e.g. 90 seconds) is dramatically improved." – is further clarification needed?
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Thanks for sharing Doug.
I think it's a pity the capture from Live view is disabled. This would be rather handy for some...think Universalis or Actus with a non tech lens on it (Canon 24 or 17)
Other than that, I think it's starting to perhaps work a little more for those of us that don't use a phase body or need all of the XF features.
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Other than that, I think it's starting to perhaps work a little more for those of us that don't use a phase body and need all of the XF features.
There is more to come. But that is not for today :).
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Listened in on the P1 webinar today to find out some more info related to the 150mm and was hoping for an announcement regarding new features for the XF, but that we have to wait a bit longer for unfortunately.
But my god, the new 150mm is YUUUGE. Over 1.6kg in weight! And a little bit slower autofocus than the 150 3.5 apparently. For portrait work, I would at least like to have the illusion that I might switch to handheld. Dear sweet baby jesus.
And I was not happy with the 150 3.5 autofocus either. The old 150mm 2.8 is a winner, so it looks like I made a good choice after all. I'll take the sucky sync speed as a tradeoff. :)
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Drake,
Just curious, what were your concerns with the 150LS 3.5? The 150 LS 2.8 at 7K, is not happening for me. Schneider/Phase One sadly has taken the newer lenses into the stratosphere for pricing, only still have a 1 year warranty (unless you happen to get a lens when you purchase a new back which is not an upgrade)
I don't need the F2.8 speed and the size/weight of the 150mm LS 3.5 seems to be a better carry lens in the field.
Thanks
Paul C
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Drake,
Just curious, what were your concerns with the 150LS 3.5? The 150 LS 2.8 at 7K, is not happening for me. Schneider/Phase One sadly has taken the newer lenses into the stratosphere for pricing, only still have a 1 year warranty (unless you happen to get a lens when you purchase a new back which is not an upgrade)
I don't need the F2.8 speed and the size/weight of the 150mm LS 3.5 seems to be a better carry lens in the field.
Thanks
Paul C
My concerns with the 150 3.5 LS was primarily slow autofocus coupled with the long focusing distance (1.5m). Sharpness was also in favour of the old 2.8 especially when you got a bit off center.
The old 150 2.8 is a dream in comparison with 1m close focusing distance and an autofocus that is snappy and on target almost 100% of the time despite shallow DoF on an XF. I shoot people primarily so these are top concerns for me.
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My concerns with the 150 3.5 LS was primarily slow autofocus coupled with the long focusing distance (1.5m). Sharpness was also in favour of the old 2.8 especially when you got a bit off center.
The old 150 2.8 is a dream in comparison with 1m close focusing distance and an autofocus that is snappy and on target almost 100% of the time despite shallow DoF on an XF. I shoot people primarily so these are top concerns for me.
The new f/2.8 lens focuses significantly closer (100cm, 3 feet and a couple inches).
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Phase One did not have a boot at Photokina. They shared some boot space with Calumet. Mamiya and Leaf were completely absent. I found that a bit strange.
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I thought it was weird too, that P1 had such a discreet presence at the Kina. No major new things to show (I don't call the IQ1-100 a new camera, it's just the "old" IQ3 in a cheaper packaging).
Maybe they just wanted to give Hassi and Fuji some space in the spotlight ? :-)
It could be that they have something on store for later, and wanted to save resources for a bigger presence once new products are out ?
All in all, it was a strange Kina. Some major players (P1, Leica for example) had a very moderate presence. Some others, like Fuji and Sony had a huge presence.
Kina was also smaller than usual (one big hall that used to house all kinds of gear exhibitors was now used for action presentations, some floors were not occupied), perhaps a sign of some sort of decline (or shift to another photo-show ?) of the industry ?
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All in all, it was a strange Kina. Some major players (P1, Leica for example) had a very moderate presence. Some others, like Fuji and Sony had a huge presence.
Kina was also smaller than usual (one big hall that used to house all kinds of gear exhibitors was now used for action presentations, some floors were not occupied), perhaps a sign of some sort of decline (or shift to another photo-show ?) of the industry ?
Very few in the management of any of the camera makers I speak with are especially thrilled to spend the time and money on Photokina or Photo East. If you've ever done one of these shows they are insanely over priced (e.g. a few hundred dollars to rent a chair for your booth). Two decades ago they were one of the primary means by which you reached a large audience, since photo magazines and trade shows were the only "launch vehicles" for new products. Now social media plays literally a hundred times the role that trade shows do in the success (or not) of a product launch. Moreover, the entire idea that you should wait and coordinate your R+D projects to culminate in a product ready to launch (or at least announce) at a specific German trade show that is held every other year... as a product manager that feels like an ancient way of thinking.
The main reasons for a camera company to keep doing such shows is to meet with other manufacturers (one flight and you see a dozen partners from several countries) and to avoid the "why weren't they there" questions (as exemplified in this post). Only one of those reasons actually requires a booth.
I would say that meeting our clients is a great #3, and don't get me wrong I'm really looking forward to that part at our Phase One Photo Plus Booth (https://digitaltransitions.com/events-training/photo-plus-show-floor/), but honestly I vastly prefer a good party (https://digitaltransitions.com/events-training/13-year-anniversary-party/) to the trade show floor for this.
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Maybe... but obviously companies like Canon, Fuji, Olympus, Epson or even Hasselblad, Linhof thought that renting a chair 100$ was money well invested.
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I think Hasselblad and particularly Fuji brought their own chairs... Perhaps Alpa too, although I didn't ask if the Alpa ones where director chairs in black cloth with white "H" written on them.... ;)
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Doug,
Thanks for corrobating my feelings about the greatly diminished importance of announcing products at trade shows. (Perhaps Photokina still fits the schedule for Christmas gift marketing though: note the very "gifty" tilt of the Nikon and Canon announcements.)
This is one reason why I do not share the anxiety over "nothing much from Nikon".