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Title: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: keithcooper on August 16, 2016, 09:28:09 am
Just having a quick look in ColorSync utility at a profile I'd made for the Canon PRO-2000 on my laptop (10.11) and had a feeling it looked different to what I recalled from my desktop machine (10.10)

It seems that the mesh rendering has changed from 10.10 (right) to 10.11 (left), so that the new one smooths out some dips/spikes.

Raised more as an FYI and wondering what other changes there are if anyone knows?
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: howardm on August 16, 2016, 11:07:58 am
Perhaps a bit of rounding error fix in graphing library??

There is a forum/mailing list for colorsync (or there used to be) at Apple
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: keithcooper on August 16, 2016, 11:22:17 am
Perhaps a bit of rounding error fix in graphing library??
There is a forum/mailing list for colorsync (or there used to be) at Apple
I thought that was a likely reason - just curiosity really (the list is still there)
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: digitaldog on August 16, 2016, 12:50:29 pm
Perhaps a bit of rounding error fix in graphing library??
Or bug. Never use it for that task, don't trust it anyway. ColorThink Pro is the hot ticket for these reasons:
http://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/Color_Management_Myths_26-28#Myth_26
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: keithcooper on August 16, 2016, 01:43:30 pm
Or bug. Never use it for that task, don't trust it anyway. ColorThink Pro is the hot ticket for these reasons:
http://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/Color_Management_Myths_26-28#Myth_26
A hot ticket at $400 for the pro version I believe?

Perfectly justifiable for people who work in the field and it contributes it to their business ... but for the rest of us?

Any suggestions for those of us without $400 in loose change sitting around ;-)
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: digitaldog on August 16, 2016, 01:58:03 pm
A hot ticket at $400 for the pro version I believe?
Perfectly justifiable for people who work in the field and it contributes it to their business ... but for the rest of us?
Any suggestions for those of us without $400 in loose change sitting around ;-)
You've got the free, and I'll suggest wrong gamut map, what's wrong?  ;D
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: keithcooper on August 16, 2016, 02:06:44 pm
You've got the free, and I'll suggest wrong gamut map, what's wrong?  ;D

Thanks for your helpful note...
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: digitaldog on August 16, 2016, 02:14:45 pm
http://www.gamutvision.com (http://www.gamutvision.com)


The apple list: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users ([email protected])
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: Royce Howland on August 16, 2016, 09:25:37 pm
Gamutvision is indispensable for a lot of useful profile analysis, and a lot cheaper than ColorThink Pro. One caveat is that Gamutvision is Windows-only...
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: GWGill on August 16, 2016, 11:23:01 pm
Any suggestions for those of us without $400 in loose change sitting around ;-)
Sure - ArgyllCMS (http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/iccgamut.html) - free, just as capable, but not as convenient to use.
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: tonyrom on August 17, 2016, 12:56:23 am
If you don't need to work sheet, the 149.00 version of ColorThink will give you more features than ColorSync and this includes the accuracy.  In addition, if you mention a blogger Ronmart, I think you will get another 10% off ( I just purchased ColorThink Pro last week and I received the 10%. Rick at Chromic was very friendly!).  I am in no way affiliated with Ron Martinsen.  I do know Ron and I take full advantage of any discount :-)

One of the drivers for me purchasing ColorThink was the ColorSync utility on Mac seems to be a forgotten application.  It will hang rendering profiles on the system, crash, and in general be slow.  This is running on a 6 Core Xeon MacPro, no excuse for its performance woes.


-tony
Title: Re: OSX 10.10 to 10.11 colorsync utility change?
Post by: RHPS on August 17, 2016, 01:45:45 am
Gamutvision is indispensable for a lot of useful profile analysis, and a lot cheaper than ColorThink Pro. One caveat is that Gamutvision is Windows-only...
And Gamutvision is now free, albeit unsupported. The only problem is that the registration system doesn't work with Win10 at the moment.