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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: photoenthusiasm on June 14, 2016, 04:30:51 am
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Good morning with my first post here as a new member. Is a phase one h25 a good choice for tethered shooting with my mamiya rz67 (with adapterplate) and with my cambo and flexadapter? What is a current price for a descent h25 back?
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The H25 is a very good back. For the RZ67 it is perfect. It should cost maximum 1000$ now.
You will most likely be more happy with this back on the RZ than with a higher res back.
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The H25 is a very good back. For the RZ67 it is perfect. It should cost maximum 1000$ now.
You will most likely be more happy with this back on the RZ than with a higher res back.
thank You for your input. I guessed resolution is not the thing that matters most. Now the quest for a good example starts.....
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I have the H25. Cost me about $900. I'm loving it with my Hasselblads.
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I have the H25. Cost me about $900. I'm loving it with my Hasselblads.
thanks for sharing your experience!
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After reading about the combination and the supportive statements in these posts I sold my Ebony sw45 in order to buy a H25. First impressions are very good. I mounted it on the Mamiya RZ67, the Hasselblad SWC and the phase one felxadaptor on my Cambo SF45. It works on all these combinations without a flaw. Next thing is putting more RAM memory in my macbook pro from 2009 to save time in the use of capture one. I used capture one some years ago adn wan't that happy with it. Now it is much, much improved. Maybe I don't need lightroom anymore...... All in all thanks for the advice! Attached (when it works...) a picture of my SWC taken with the mamiya/ H25.
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Shot this with the P25 yesterday. Still love mine!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7328/28005898236_dcc2d2cc39_h.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7585/27962734341_95aa0e473b_h.jpg)
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Nice, especially the first one. Is the p25 the same as the h25?
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I believe they are the same sensors. P25 adds LCD otherwise the same!
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can the H25 shoot untethered?
Edmund
I believe they are the same sensors. P25 adds LCD otherwise the same!
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I believe the H25 is tether only, as it is bus-powered via FW400.
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H25 is tethered indeed. As an advantage You get a huge screen :)
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Does anyone know from experience how the back works on long exposures? The data from phase one states exposures to 30 sec and longer.
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Very nice up to at least 30 sec.
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H25 is tethered indeed. As an advantage You get a huge screen :)
You're clearly making the most of it :)
Color on that generation sensor are wonderful.
Good buy.
I wonder why more people don't buy those old backs for tethered use, especially in the studio.
Edmund
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The H25 is really hard to find on the used market, but you can find plenty of H10s.
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I am indeed very pleased with it. Great for portrait!
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How do you shoot it outdoor? Do you bring your Macbook with you?
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Yes, not what You call portable but all fit in a rather small backpack
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Hi guys,
Its been a while.
Looking for a ultra wide for my Canon, a Rokinon 12mm was reviewed by LL, and here I am.
Yes, the H25 I have used for years, and as much as I wanted to upgrade for larger more pixels, it performed so well in studio, there was no need.
Only thing now is how can you connect it to a MacBook Pro(2014) that doesn't have FWire!? That would also be my issue.
I highly recommend you get the RZ Pro2 D, as in digital. I also used the dual shutter release to make it easier with using a RZ plate adapter since my H25 was a Hass V back.
I have the entire RZ kit down to the 37mm ultra wide. Pretty amazing. The RZ is such a nice setup. P25's go for $3k and up, so if you can get an H for under 1K, that is a great deal. I have had a few DB's and the H25 is just a beautiful work horse with no other function... for good or bad, other than capture. The shots are about 1-2 seconds for clearing the black and color target registration and on to the next frame. You can get a good pace once things start going smooth. I had a super long FW cable tethered to my PC, and it worked great with a FW powered hub extender. You can get pretty "free" and far with it to roam around. With a nice set of Rod and Scheider glass on a 4x5 nothing makes me want to leave it behind. Ultra sharp and beautiful render and light control. It was my main b&b tool for work.
The H25 now has 4 pixels in a row showing up green. Not sure what its from, but I was simply editing these at the time.
The P25 cuts the cord and puts you mobile with all the nice things the H25 does, but batteries and a weak screen are its "down sides".
Danlandoni: That is such a nice breathing image, a good example.
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Thank for your input. As far as I know it cannot be tethered to the newer powerbooks. Moreover: yosemite doesn't support firewire drivers. Therefore minecworks on anolder type powerbook with capture one version 8.
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Thank for your input. As far as I know it cannot be tethered to the newer powerbooks. Moreover: yosemite doesn't support firewire drivers. Therefore minecworks on anolder type powerbook with capture one version 8.
Work with your dealer on such tech questions as there is a lot of misunderstands and confusion about such topics.
You can use a brand new macbookpro and OS X 10.11 with an h25 using a thunderbolt adapter and a powered hub, including powered by battery.
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Work with your dealer on such tech questions as there is a lot of misunderstands and confusion about such topics.
You can use a brand new macbookpro and OS X 10.11 with an h25 using a thunderbolt adapter and a powered hub, including powered by battery.
I am doing exactly that. Except I power the hub using a dc-dc converter connected to one of my macbook's USB ports. So the whole setup remains portable.
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Work with your dealer on such tech questions as there is a lot of misunderstands and confusion about such topics.
You can use a brand new macbookpro and OS X 10.11 with an h25 using a thunderbolt adapter and a powered hub, including powered by battery.
You are wright, I was wrong. The reason not to switch to Yosemite was not the issue about firewire but about a ratoc scsi to firewire adapter: the driver is not supported in Yosemite. I use it for my betterlight scanner back and don't want to lose this option.
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this is one of the first shots with the H25 that I took with the aim at the resulting picture instead of just trying it out. Shot with the H25 attached at my hasselblad swc three days ago in Sweden. I love the combination, even with the macbook along. My eyes aren't that good anymore to use a small LCD screen, so in the end I am glad to work tethered!
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Sweet image!
For a while now I have been thinking to "replace" the H/P25 with a SonyA7R2 on a view cam, but I just haven't had the need so much. Sure at the same time it will be a much more portable camera for other things, but...I don't know if it can replace it (using the same 120, 180, 300 Rod and Schneider lenses).
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thank You for the compliment. I wouldn't use the sony with analogue glass: it is just not made for it and in my limited experience You will regret loosing the digital back. In the past I tried some aps-c sensor camera's with analogue glass: it just doesn't work for me. Issues of color shift, non optimal sharpness etc. The only one that remained is the old fuji X1-pro with a heliar 15mm on it. At some time it will get a fuji zoom too. But first getting used to the possibilities I now have.
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Getting a feeling now on the H25 and I really like it. When using it for panoramas with stitching: would a grandagon 75mm 4.5 be any good or only the digital- dedicated lenses?
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havent used the 75. But haveused the Mamiya lenses and they are nice. 140, 37, 65 are really nice.
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Hello, I'm new here and I'm from Mexico City.
I was lurking the street downtown where they sell old photographic equipment, and found a Mamiya RZ67 Pro II with this back, and 4 lenses, 50mm, 65mm, 110mm and 140mm macro. They're pretty much giving it away, about $750 USD for all, it even has the metered finder and an extension for the macro.
But they don't know how to use it, they can't even show that it works, so they're giving it away.
My reason for posting this is if I can find out what they're missing, and can make it work, so I can either buy it myself, altough I already own a RZ 67 Pro II for film. Or make them sell it better.
They have one cable that goes from the adapter plate to a Mamiya port, the one in the front left of the camera, I'm guessing they need another cable from the shutter on the lens to the adapter plate? That would be a PC sync cable to Pc sync?
And for power and tethering? It has a FW 400 output, but they have new PowerBook or a new iMac, is there a way to make it work with them? What would they need?
Thanks in advanced for any response.
PS: sorry, one more thing... I believe that the camera cannot be used now with film right? I found no way of detaching the adapter plate in the back.
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even without knowing if it works the price is very low. As to your questions: the phase one adapterplate is detachable. I use a pc to pc synch cable. For the fierwirde you can use the thunderbolt adapter from apple. So in the end the only two investments are less then $50, no software or whatsever problems. As a bonus: you can use capture one (even the latest versions) for free when you download it for use with a digital back. In conclusion: go for it..........
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even without knowing if it works the price is very low. As to your questions: the phase one adapterplate is detachable. I use a pc to pc synch cable. For the fierwirde you can use the thunderbolt adapter from apple. So in the end the only two investments are less then $50, no software or whatsever problems. As a bonus: you can use capture one (even the latest versions) for free when you download it for use with a digital back. In conclusion: go for it..........
Thanks! Well, I'm gonna test it, but I'm going away on business this weekend, so it has to be in about 10 days.
I read from phase one, that you cannot longer use an RZ67 Pro II that has been converted to take that adapter plate, with film.
I guess that you use this lever to detach it? I tried that, but it's very hard, I didn't wanted to force it.