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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: Gary Ferguson on April 06, 2006, 01:35:03 pm

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: Gary Ferguson on April 06, 2006, 01:35:03 pm

Any experiences/views on HPR Satin?

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: jdyke on April 13, 2006, 11:44:45 am

Not that great apparently.....its much more expensive than the standard photo rag and the samples I have seen don't justify the extra cost.  The prints are supposed to have a bit of a sheen to then but side by side with the  normal stuff there is not a lot of difference (there is a very slight sheen in some colours if looked at an angle).
In my opinion this was a disspointing paper from Hahnemule and I would stick with the standard photorag or wait for the new pearl if you are after something with a bit more of a finish.

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: PetterStahre on April 30, 2006, 04:27:47 am

I prefer HPR Satin over HPR when I need dark blacks. The downside is a more limited dynamic range (less details in shadows).

Another downside is their quality control. I've had several prints ruined due to uneven coating. (Prints from different rolls.)


// Petter

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: Brian Gilkes on May 02, 2006, 11:27:05 am

Quote from: PetterStahre,Apr 30 2006, 08:27 AM

I prefer HPR Satin over HPR when I need dark blacks. The downside is a more limited dynamic range (less details in shadows).
Petter,
There are a lot of canned profiles around that push down blacks by compressing shadows. I am not saying this is the case here,and I have not used this paper, but I am suggesting that you should get a good custom profile.
On your other comment I personally have found Hahnemuhle paper very consistent and free of coating faults apart from a tendency for flaking on the PhotoRag .
Cheers,
Brian Gilkes
www.pharoseditions.com.au.

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: PetterStahre on May 02, 2006, 04:39:46 pm

Quote

Petter,
There are a lot of canned profiles around that push down blacks by compressing shadows. I am not saying this is the case here,and I have not used this paper, but I am suggesting that you should get a good custom profile.

Thanks but that's not the case here. I use my own custom made profiles as well as the profiles that Colorbyte makes for their RIP which I use (ImagePrint).

But when talking about profiles I've found the PhotoRag Satin profile from Hahnemuehles own page to be very strange - not to say bad/faulty. It shows some serious banding in certain colours. So custom made is the way to go.

But still the paper itself is a beauty, in my opinion.

(About Hahnemuehles general quality... I haven't experienced much flaking when printing on "standard" PhotoRag but when I've printed on their William Turner paper it has been quite a problem. WT is yet another lovely paper, but with issues... similar to an interesting but challenging relationship  )

Cheers,
Petter

Title: Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin
Post by: Marcst on May 10, 2006, 06:42:27 am

What I dislike about Photo Rag Satin is that the ink scruff away extremely easy. Anyone else noticed this?