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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 09, 2015, 06:58:01 pm

Title: RAW defect
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 09, 2015, 06:58:01 pm
Not sure what is going on with the area of roof line.
This is from a NEF file opened in ACR, but the same
defect is present when opened in Rawtherapee.

Shot hand-held from cruise ship, 100% crop
Nikon D810
70-200mm f2.8
@ 75mm, 1/100 sec, f4.5 ISO 64

Hope someone can enlighten me.

Regards,
Dale

 
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: bjanes on November 09, 2015, 07:26:49 pm
Not sure what is going on with the area of roof line.
This is from a NEF file opened in ACR, but the same
defect is present when opened in Rawtherapee.

Shot hand-held from cruise ship, 100% crop
Nikon D810
70-200mm f2.8
@ 75mm, 1/100 sec, f4.5 ISO 64

Hope someone can enlighten me.

Regards,
Dale

Is the defect in the raw file or in the roof itself? It looks to me that the roof is damaged. Recent hurricane?

If you think the roof was intact, you could post the raw file or look at it directly with Rawdigger or a similar program that can view the raw data directly without demosaicing. With Rawdigger use the raw composite view. DCraw is free and can also do this.

Bill
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: BobShaw on November 09, 2015, 07:35:28 pm
Congratulations. Funniest thing so far today.
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 09, 2015, 10:32:22 pm
To BobShaw: if you think this if funny, you ought to see my photo library full of screw-ups. Which is why I don't have a viewable portfolio, a word too pretentious for my efforts.

To Bill: same in Rawtherapee, which I understand is a tweaked DCRAW. Don't have a website, and the entire file is 21 mb so don't know how to post the raw file. No recent storms in the area, otherwise know nothing about any possible damage. I was
simply taking pictures of what I could see from a cruise boat. I have another photo with a similar flaw which I will post separately.

Regards,
Dale
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 09, 2015, 10:49:07 pm
Two more details from two different photos of same church. This in in same general area as house, so it may, after all, be storm damage.
 
Regards,
Dale
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Peano on November 10, 2015, 07:21:44 pm
Not sure what is going on with the area of roof line.
This is from a NEF file opened in ACR,

Hope someone can enlighten me.

You need to link to the raw file.


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Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 10, 2015, 07:38:16 pm
That's a glitch and they are apparently working on it.
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: BobShaw on November 10, 2015, 11:55:25 pm
If the roof was continuous and there was a defect in the file then the missing area would be white, or black or pixelated or some strange thing. It would not magically Xray through the roof and paint in the rocks and bushes behind where the roof was in it's pristine condition.
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: D Fosse on November 11, 2015, 04:50:56 am
If the roof was continuous and there was a defect in the file then the missing area would be white, or black or pixelated or some strange thing. It would not magically Xray through the roof and paint in the rocks and bushes behind where the roof was in it's pristine condition.

And that concludes the matter beyond any further discussion.

But an interesting illustration of how the brain/visual system operates - we have our standard reference points that everything else is interpreted according to, and apparently a straight roof line is one of these. Is this the same basic mechanism from which most conspiracy theories originate?  8)
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: kirkt on November 11, 2015, 09:02:25 am
In both of these examples it appears that the roofline of the offending building is being blended into an adjacent structure - in the top image, the peak of the roof appears to be joined to the adjacent rock face behind it, as if the building is built into the hillside.  In the lower image, the edge of the roof is joined into the vertical face of the building next to it.  In both cases it appears that the joint is filled with light-colored mortar or something that fills the discontinuity between the roof and the structure into which it is being joined.

kirk
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: PeterAit on November 11, 2015, 09:09:51 am
Is the defect in the raw file or in the roof itself? It looks to me that the roof is damaged. Recent hurricane?


The fact that there is rock visible behind where the roof should be suggests that this is the case.
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 11, 2015, 09:28:06 am
Thanks all. I was concerned it was the camera
or my mistake. Insecure about camera and capture since
still on learning curve with new camera.

Regards,
Dale
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: xpatUSA on November 12, 2015, 02:53:17 pm
Don't have a website, and the entire file is 21 mb so don't know how to post the raw file.

Regards,
Dale

There is a site which lets you put big files up for others to download:

http://www.dropbox.com/

Never use it myself - others here can probably tell you how it works.
Title: Re: RAW defect
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on November 13, 2015, 04:31:01 am
Thanks to Ted, a link follows:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcr9ndfnury0c74/_DSC0399.NEF?dl=0

Regards,
Dale