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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Rainer SLP on May 17, 2015, 04:10:12 pm

Title: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: Rainer SLP on May 17, 2015, 04:10:12 pm
... instead of the Good New things ?

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2015/05/12/hard-drives-losing-data-without-power/?ssdflaw=

I lost a bunch of digital images on CDs which where not older then 12 years having stored them in a place not ever touched by direct sunlight ...

What is the industry promising us and really keeping ¿?

Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: jjj on May 17, 2015, 04:45:11 pm
All digital storage fails it would appear. It's a matter of when, not if.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: Rainer SLP on May 17, 2015, 04:50:07 pm
All digital storage fails it would appear. It's a matter of when, not if.

Agree, but 5 CDs failed all after the same time even having bought the ones which the producer said the storage would be safe for at least 30 years ¿?

Verbatim Gold covered ones ...
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: jjj on May 17, 2015, 04:54:47 pm
As I said, ALL digital storage fails.
Writable CDs/DVDs have never been known as archival.
Best thing to do is have multiple back ups and copies.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: jjj on May 17, 2015, 04:56:43 pm
Oh and take with a pinch of salt any spec claimed by tech companies.
If Verbatim claimed their product would last x number of years and it patently does not, sue the gits.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: Rainer SLP on May 17, 2015, 05:11:35 pm
Oh and take with a pinch of salt any spec claimed by tech companies.
If Verbatim claimed their product would last x number of years and it patently does not, sue the gits.

+1

The broth is going to be more expensive then the meat balls  ;D

I bought the software isoBuster hopíng to be able to recover the files but not even so.

Any idea of another eventually capable software ?
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: jjj on May 17, 2015, 05:26:20 pm
Never tried recovering from optical media, so can't offer any help there I'm afraid.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: pcgpcg on May 17, 2015, 06:06:46 pm
Best thing to do is have multiple back ups and copies.
and backup to the cloud
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: Iluvmycam on May 17, 2015, 06:13:24 pm
... instead of the Good New things ?

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2015/05/12/hard-drives-losing-data-without-power/?ssdflaw=

I lost a bunch of digital images on CDs which where not older then 12 years having stored them in a place not ever touched by direct sunlight ...

What is the industry promising us and really keeping ¿?



Should be on DVD gold and silver flash and HD's Also cloud, but I don't use it. If the Cd's were from India they die after a year or less.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: Rainer SLP on May 17, 2015, 08:20:09 pm
All digital storage fails it would appear. It's a matter of when, not if.

I will keep the above in mind

Thanks jjj
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: jjj on May 21, 2015, 05:36:30 pm
and backup to the cloud
Well the cloud is just one of many ways to do back ups and copies. Which specific methods you use is less important than using multiple methods and multiple physical locations.
All have drawbacks and strengths.
Title: Re: ¿ Is it time to go back to the bad known things ...
Post by: DeanChriss on May 21, 2015, 06:50:09 pm
"Non-volatile" solid state memory like flash memory is no better than the error correction algorithms that go with it. Without such algorithms it wouldn't even be useable. Every time the speed is increased and/or the scale of the parts is decreased, errors increase and the correction algorithms are beefed up to compensate. Statistically, after the algorithms do their work, the error rates remain about the same and very very low. The data before correction, which you never see, is relatively corrupt and becomes more so over time.