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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2840 on: March 25, 2018, 08:25:21 pm »

Natural shore ice sculpture
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2841 on: March 25, 2018, 09:44:13 pm »

Lovely orchid. Out of curiosity, what stacking software are you using? The artifact on the bottom of your last image suggests maybe not enough steps, but it could also be caused by software mistakes.
I used PS-classic. I tried Zerene Stacker but it created way too much ghosting. I took about six images @f11 using PS. Before this I took about 13 images, @5.6 and the results were almost identical. Lots of right angle white area artifacts. The longer the focal distance between far and near, the worse the results. If the distance is small the technique works fairly well. Example: one flower petal works great. But a whole flower at very close distance creates mush. Look at centre of the image, just mush. I do much better with one shot at F 16. At F22 and 32, the image gets really soft. Great if that's the effect you want.

I did Ok with this one. It was about 20 shots, so I guess I have to create more increments.

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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2842 on: March 26, 2018, 06:23:20 am »

Lovely orchid. Out of curiosity, what stacking software are you using? The artifact on the bottom of your last image suggests maybe not enough steps, but it could also be caused by software mistakes.

That artifact is likely caused by the change in focal length with different focusing points.
It happens to me all the time, could be solved by a focusing rail but it's not worth the effort for how much I shoot close up focus stacking. As John I get plenty of artifacts and correcting for them is a pain, I'm not sure how you guys do it. I did try in the past Helicon and Zerene and they also had issues.

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« Reply #2843 on: March 26, 2018, 12:24:05 pm »

That artifact is likely caused by the change in focal length with different focusing points.
It happens to me all the time, could be solved by a focusing rail but it's not worth the effort for how much I shoot close up focus stacking. As John I get plenty of artifacts and correcting for them is a pain, I'm not sure how you guys do it. I did try in the past Helicon and Zerene and they also had issues.
Maybe oscar has the right idea, I should try for something simpler, like a single flower. Anyway I tried one more time using f16 six images trying to capture a larger section of the flower. Here is the result. You can see the artifacting especially around the edges of the petals, doesn't even include what I cropped out and cloned over.

JR

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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2844 on: March 29, 2018, 03:39:00 pm »

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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2845 on: March 30, 2018, 04:41:11 pm »

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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2846 on: April 04, 2018, 07:14:45 pm »

From peering into ditches (at shell ice).
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« Reply #2847 on: April 04, 2018, 09:21:32 pm »

From peering into ditches (at shell ice).
I like these. Especially no 3. It's as if you shrunk yourself and were able to photograph a broken glass pane from a low angle and show us the many facets of cracks in glass.

JR
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2848 on: April 05, 2018, 09:29:30 am »

That's a great series, JNB.
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2849 on: April 05, 2018, 09:51:16 am »

From peering into ditches (at shell ice).

Stunning sequence! So good!
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2850 on: April 05, 2018, 12:08:38 pm »

Thank-you everyone. John, you've picked the one (#3) that seems to generate the most comments from viewers.
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2851 on: April 07, 2018, 04:26:05 pm »

Rainy day... water drop refractions...
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2852 on: April 08, 2018, 04:17:38 am »

Rainy day... water drop refractions...

Superb colors…
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2853 on: April 08, 2018, 07:50:17 am »

Superb colors…
I appreciate your kind words, francois. Thank you.
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2854 on: April 09, 2018, 02:03:13 am »

I keep trying photostacking at the macro level. Results are very poor and I have to get a reasonably clean image. Here is one, but you can see the mid sections went blurry. I started shooting F16 instead. The second is the result.

JR



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« Reply #2855 on: April 09, 2018, 04:18:21 am »

I keep trying photostacking at the macro level. Results are very poor and I have to get a reasonably clean image. Here is one, but you can see the mid sections went blurry. I started shooting F16 instead. The second is the result.

JR

Perhaps you need a rail so you don't have to refocus the lens?

Does your software also allow adjustment of the separate layers in the stack? Affinity Photo for example will allow stamp-painting from the separate entries.
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2856 on: April 09, 2018, 08:58:18 am »

Perhaps you need a rail so you don't have to refocus the lens?

Does your software also allow adjustment of the separate layers in the stack? Affinity Photo for example will allow stamp-painting from the separate entries.
Thank you for that info, Oscar. I tried Zerene stacker and Helicon. They produce a lot of artifacts, you just have to look close. Right now I am trying PS. Perhaps I should try Affinity. If I understand correctly your meaning, with Affinity, I can designate one image to override the others?

As for focusing rail, way to expensive for such limited use. I have my eye on new full-frame Pentax instead!

JR
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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2857 on: April 09, 2018, 09:12:24 am »

Just send me all your rejects, John. I'll be happy to have them.   ;)

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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2858 on: April 12, 2018, 03:15:11 am »

Okay, at least this one more represents the kind of look I want to achieve.

JR



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Re: Show us some Abstracts!
« Reply #2859 on: April 13, 2018, 02:42:50 am »

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