Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... people are still peddling the "nothing we could have done" ...

People!? That is what Biden said at the beginning of his term "there is nothing we can do."

[Robert Roaldi]

He has been in office the last eight months. 300,000 on his watch. Or you are trying to pin that too on Trump?

Sure, ok, it was all Biden's fault. Feel better now?

Does that get you anywhere?

[Peter McLennan]

To tell you the truth, his post was one of those comments that I thought was better left to just sit and rot of its own accord without a response.

But, I do understand the response.

Yah, perhaps a little over the top, even if I did give him credit for one skill.

Sometimes, however, one is driven to the dark side by sheer frustration.

[Alan Klein]

I see they approved the third Pfizer shot for people over 65 like me and my wife.  But since we took Moderna's, we'll have to wait to see what they come up for us. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I see they approved the third Pfizer shot for people over 65 like me and my wife.  But since we took Moderna's, we'll have to wait to see what they come up for us. 

[Alan Klein]

It does feel that way lately.  I just took the regular Flu shot. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I see they approved the third Pfizer shot for people over 65 like me and my wife...

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... But since we took Moderna's, we'll have to wait to see what they come up for us. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moderna-we-dont-really-know-if-a-third-covid-19-shot-is-necessary-135143605.html

[Alan Klein]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moderna-we-dont-really-know-if-a-third-covid-19-shot-is-necessary-135143605.html

: Research for five months thru August that shows Moderna is better at holding its effectiveness over Pfizer and J&J.


Over the course of five months of research, from March to August, the effectiveness of all the vaccines at keeping people out of the hospital due to COVID among people without compromising conditions was highest for Moderna recipients, at 93%. Pfizer's effectiveness was overall 88% and J&J's was 71%.
Pfizer's effectiveness decreased after 120 days of the study period, from 91% to 77%, while Moderna's effectiveness did not see a similar decline. Initial effectiveness of 93% only declined to 92% with Moderna.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/09/18/cdc-says-moderna-vaccine-staying-especially-effective-covid-updates/8380925002/

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Oh, how the tune changes when their guy is in charge! 🤣🤣🤣

One-Third Of New Drugs Had Safety Problems After FDA Approval

"It took a median of 4.2 years after the drugs were approved for these safety concerns to come to light..."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3WdmlaZOQA5Tj1BkK-gCBOCYlzPECtFsrTAedsVQa-Mztthn48ZxvHibQ

[Robert Roaldi]

Interesting podcast about dogs and Covid, https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/the-dog-will-see-you-now/, the last episode of the most recent season of Revisionist History. It's about the high success rate of trained dogs in discovering many diseases and how they could be useful with Covid.

Snowflake alert: Malcolm Gladwell makes a very disparaging remark about the efficacy of the US in the face of Covid. It occurs past the midway point, sensitive souls should take care.

[Robert Roaldi]

: Research for five months thru August that shows Moderna is better at holding its effectiveness over Pfizer and J&J.


Over the course of five months of research, from March to August, the effectiveness of all the vaccines at keeping people out of the hospital due to COVID among people without compromising conditions was highest for Moderna recipients, at 93%. Pfizer's effectiveness was overall 88% and J&J's was 71%.
Pfizer's effectiveness decreased after 120 days of the study period, from 91% to 77%, while Moderna's effectiveness did not see a similar decline. Initial effectiveness of 93% only declined to 92% with Moderna.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/09/18/cdc-says-moderna-vaccine-staying-especially-effective-covid-updates/8380925002/

F.U.D.

That's right, there are some things that aren't known until they are known. Meanwhile, effectiveness of the Covid vaccines continue to be a high point of medical intervention. You can't spin that away.

The Trump clan were vaccinated, what better recommendation could you want? 

[Robert Roaldi]

Are you gloating that there were more deaths than people hoped for?

You have done this twice (that I can remember) in recent weeks. You baited people using a wildly inappropriate query that can only be deliberate. I find this despicable. It's not an excuse for some insults that have been directed your way, but let's not pretend you were innocent.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

F.U.D...

Or science.

[Peter McLennan]

You baited people using a wildly inappropriate query that can only be deliberate. I find this despicable.

Me, too.  And I should know, having been recently accused of being despicable myself.

Unfortunately, that kind of baiting seems increasingly common.

[Alan Klein]

You have done this twice (that I can remember) in recent weeks. You baited people using a wildly inappropriate query that can only be deliberate. I find this despicable. It's not an excuse for some insults that have been directed your way, but let's not pretend you were innocent.

My comment was in response to someone else's post, not yours.  He was personally insulting another poster.  I believe the Administrator even called him out with his post. 

[Manoli]

And I should know, having been recently accused of being despicable myself.

There was little to reprimand given the 'either ...or' context of your post.
Moderator got the wrong end of the stick (not least because he quoted Slobodan) in his interjection.

And as for Slobodan's 'despicable' grand standing, the record shows that he showed no such objection to Der Kleine's defamatory interchange with jeremyrh, so I'd suggest that you view that quip in its wider context.

Nuff said.

[TechTalk]

I should know, having been recently accused of being despicable myself.

He was personally insulting another poster.

Which might be unkind, even when it's true, but not something that I personally would classify as despicable. Despicable would be something like making up racist statements and then falsely attributing them to someone else. Now that would be despicable!

Even with that kind of despicable act, you could probably find someone willing to rationalize and dismiss your nefarious acts as merely motivated by implied inferences—while reaching for their crying towel and yelling for a moderator at an unkind remark to that same despicable, but like-minded, individual.

Hypothetically speaking of course!

[Alan Klein]

There was little to reprimand given the 'either ...or' context of your post.
Moderator got the wrong end of the stick (not least because he quoted Slobodan) in his interjection.

And as for Slobodan's 'despicable' grand standing, the record shows that he showed no such objection to Der Kleine's defamatory interchange with jeremyrh, so I'd suggest that you view that quip in its wider context.

Nuff said.

The record shows no such thing.  For five years because I voted and supported Trump, I've been called a Naxi and a racist over and over again by many posters here.  So were other Trump supporters also called out personally with the same demeaning insults. 

Regarding Jeremyrh, I called him out for the racist comment he made of indicating that black people were apparently not intelligent or capable of getting a photo ID as white people do, so they can vote.  He felt that like children, they needed to have special hand-holding treatment.  That was an insult to Black people who I defended stating they were just as capable as any other race to meet the standards of getting an ID.

[Alan Klein]

By the way, your Der Kleine reference shows you still calling me a Nazi.