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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16460 on: October 21, 2024, 12:02:46 pm »

Reasoned voice for calm; bound to be attacked and message perverted.
Spot on, thanks for the link.
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« Reply #16461 on: October 21, 2024, 01:41:47 pm »

Now some humor for those fans of the guy with small hands.....
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16462 on: October 21, 2024, 02:30:56 pm »

I'm English and so have no dog in this particular fight. It seems to me that you lot are unlikely, whatever the outcome, to end up with a first-class president, but if Trump or Harris is the best you can find, so be it.

One thing does strike me, having kept a weather eye on the discussion over the last few months. While you all, with one or two exceptions, derive what I must assume to be enormous pleasure from shouting into the echo chamber of Trump mockery, some, most or all of which may be entirely justified, I don't recall having read a single supportive comment about Harris (no doubt I'll be corrected if I've missed something). A widely-held view on this side of the Atlantic, at least until a couple of months ago, was that she was perhaps the only Democrat more likely than Biden to lose to Trump, but that's not something one often hears now. Of course, as we very well know over here, if your opponents are sufficiently disliked it's possible to win, and to win big, merely by being blandly innocuous. Is that the idea?

Just curious.

Jeremy

Fair question. I'm Canadian, also with no oar in this river except for proximity.

One things that media people have mentioned is how Trump takes up all the oxygen in the room, which may partly account for why there is no discussion of Harris's details. There is no time (or energy) left over to do so.

She might represent "politics as usual", in some sense, and that doesn't ever attract much attention, especially in the current hyper political climate. It's too bland. When people believe that elections are rigged, or that California is "communist" or that the occasional trans kid is causing the downfall of society, who has time for bland politicians who might just want to do the job.

By and large we live well, and there is no need to tear everything apart and start over. If all Harris does is calm everyone the f**k down, she will have done well from my standpoint.

Does she have a "vision" for the US? I have no idea, but do any of them have any vision about anything? And is that a desired attribute anyway? I'm too practical to want anyone with "vision". If they can keep the bridges from falling down, hospitals staffed with competent people, and help to put crooks in jail (especially the financial crooks), that's vision enough for me. We're lucky to get 1 or 2 people per century with vision, why should the US be so lucky to get one of them running for office.

To your specific question, I did listen to a podcast many years ago, probably before Covid, that criticized some of the things Harris did while working as a district attorney. But that's a bit like saying nothing. Who could not be criticized for something in a job like that. It could be that to a lot of people, the fact that she was promoted to that job at all puts her far above her opponent when it comes to personal achievement.

My main interest in the subject of Trump is my constant amazement at the lunacy that people are willing to sign on to. But the whole thing is becoming a bit sad these days, he seems ill to me.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16463 on: October 21, 2024, 05:48:54 pm »

At least he has a sense of humour.  ;D

Obesity is a huge problem in the USA. There is a greater number of obese people in the USA than the entire population of Australia.

A "huge" problem, eh?  ;D
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« Reply #16464 on: October 21, 2024, 08:28:26 pm »

A "huge" problem, eh?  ;D
Yes, but we do rank 19th by country/42.74%.
https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/?age=a&sex=t
The Obese ex-president may have a new slogan: Make America (more) obese than these sh&thole nations:
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« Reply #16465 on: October 22, 2024, 07:20:55 am »

Yes, but we do rank 19th by country/42.74%.
https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/?age=a&sex=t
The Obese ex-president may have a new slogan: Make America (more) obese than these sh&thole nations:

You mean, as in great again? ;-)

Look, the new world has accepted and promoted every kind of perversion known to (insert pronoun of choice). What’s a little blubber amongst friends?

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« Reply #16466 on: October 22, 2024, 09:28:01 am »

I recently watch an ABC program named 'America, Are you OK'. (ABC in this context refers to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, not the American Broadcasting Company).

I was amazed to hear that America has so many different rules regarding voter registration in each state, and some of these rules apparently discourage some people from voting.

The attached link provides a list of voting rules for all states.
https://www.vote411.org/voting-rules

And I thought the States in America were supposed to be United.  :D

I don't think this ABC program is available without signing in. But membership is free in Australia, and possibly elsewhere, so I'll provide the link.
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/america-are-you-ok
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16467 on: October 22, 2024, 10:44:49 am »

Only one candidate has a terrible track record that shows she doesn't care one bit about the American society and the world at large and lies through her teethe all day long.

Kamala has teethe?

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« Reply #16468 on: October 22, 2024, 10:54:30 am »

Kamala has teethe?
Frans is just teething.  ;D
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« Reply #16469 on: October 22, 2024, 11:19:41 am »

In Florida they tried to browbeat a TV station (https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/media/florida-desantis-threaten-tv-stations-abortion-ad/index.html). Isn't attacking radio and TV stations one of the prime tactics of "third-world shit hole" revolutions? So far the courts are slapping that down but I wonder if SCOTUS will eventually weigh in on this.

My understanding is that the state of Florida subsidizes a lot of home insurance because some private insurance companies are declining to provide hurricane coverage. Is this socialism.
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« Reply #16470 on: October 22, 2024, 11:56:43 am »

Back to obesity (and why):
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« Reply #16471 on: October 27, 2024, 02:26:51 pm »

Only one candidate has a terrible track record that shows she doesn't care one bit about the American society and the world at large and lies through her teethe all day long.
All day long!
Fact check: 32 false claims Trump made to Joe Rogan: Sun October 27, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/27/politics/fact-check-trump-rogan-podcast/index.html
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16472 on: October 27, 2024, 09:22:14 pm »

I'm curious to see if those two whack jobs, Boebert and MTG, are re-elected. Mind you, it's telling enough that they were selected by the party to run again. Should they and Trump get back into office, the consolation is that they have all proved to be so incompetent at their jobs that it will minimize the amount of damage they will inflict.

Maybe Musk can take them all to Mars with him. Is he going soon?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16473 on: October 28, 2024, 01:05:47 pm »

Robert, didn't you know? He's already been there: he took notes! That's why things with him are the way that they are. ;-)

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« Reply #16474 on: October 29, 2024, 08:40:45 am »

Here's an interesting opinion piece on American oligarchs https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/28/fiona-hill-explains-trump-musk-putin-00185820.

I can understand why a company like Amazon would not to take sides in a presidential race. They probably do a lot of business with the government sector and so might quite rightly expect retribution if they back the wrong horse, and so it may be best for them to stay out of it. But in that case, the main man in charge should not own a newspaper since he obviously misunderstands the mission statement. Coincidentally, this may illustrate why big private money should NOT be allowed to unduly influence public affairs, but the supreme court opened that door with their citizens united ruling. So, you did this to yourselves.

I don't know why Musk thinks he's knowledgeable enough to participate in international diplomacy. The fact of being rich is not in and of itself a qualification for such a job. People should be concerned that he talks to Putin and people should also be concerned that the authorities with experience in the field apparently let him do it. This does not look good on them. When it was time to interfere in Central and South American countries' internal affairs, the CIA was not shy, but they seem to be helpless when it comes to rich bros chumming up with dictators on the world stage. This looks bad for the US. Put yourself in Taiwan's or Japan's shoes, or Germany's, never mind Ukraine's, and imagine what they must be thinking. It reeks of amateur hour.

The interweb is worked up about the shit show at Madison Square Gardens the other day. But was that display really any worse than Trump tossing paper towels at a press conference. We've been in this cesspool already and the outcome was mixed. For every person who was upset at the racism on display, there may be many others who cheered it on.

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« Reply #16475 on: October 29, 2024, 09:25:57 am »

The media, traditionally newspapers , have always been political courtesy of their owners. Murdoch and Bezos are only the latest examples in a long line. After all, a good story, hyped up sells papers which increase adverts and thus profits. Rare is the media where the owner stays out of it.
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« Reply #16476 on: October 31, 2024, 02:30:29 pm »

Halloween humor with 5 days to go:
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« Reply #16477 on: November 02, 2024, 09:02:21 am »

So, Tucker Carlson claims to have been attacked by a demon in his sleep, https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/tucker-carlson-claims-he-was-attacked-by-a-demon/.

I saw bits of a youtube video interview with him about this. I am not going to supply a link. In the days of the National Enquirer, people bought the publication so the money trail was self-evident. Can there be enough money involved in the monetization of that youtube channel whereby the cut paid back to "Tuck" is worth the effort. I must be clueless about social media monetization and simply don't understand how easy it is to make money duping people online. Maybe I should know better by now. This nonsense is phonier than a three dollar bill, do people really fall for it?
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« Reply #16478 on: November 02, 2024, 12:19:10 pm »

... I must be clueless ...
Understatement of the day.
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« Reply #16479 on: November 02, 2024, 12:19:46 pm »

Don’t feel bad about it, Robert: the path to monetising anything has always been somewhat less than clear to me.

I suppose that’s the big laugh that Mama Nature allows herself at the expense of those of us in the “arts” world. We look for clues in relative values and find none, other than that the same group of people - in the step beyond the creative chaps - seem to do very well out of it. I have known more advertising bosses with yachts than photographers with yachts. Now that I consider the matter more carefully, I don’t think I have even heard of a photographer with one.
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