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Who do you think will be sworn in as President on Jan. 21?

Biden
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Trump
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Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm


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Re: US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)
« Reply #2660 on: October 21, 2020, 12:48:24 pm »

As i Understand:

About limiting the amount of places to vote. In Houston there is only one. ( used to be 12)
Limiting the use of vote by mail. In Texas you may only vote by mail if you are 65 and older.

Each State has its own deadline for registering to vote
depending on the state 7-30 days before election
Wyoming law does not permit registration by mail

in the federal registration form there is a question nr8

8. Race or Ethnic Group.

Most states say; Leave nr 8 blank
In some states it is required to fill it in.
Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina
In other states it is optional; Louisiana, Tennessee 
In Pennsylvania it is requested
 
Required means:
You are required to fill in this box; however
your application will
 not be rejected if you fail to do so. See the list of choices under the Application Instructions for Box 8 (on page 2).
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Re: US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)
« Reply #2661 on: October 21, 2020, 01:19:24 pm »

I got my BallotTrax notification today that my ballot was accepted. Yay!

So I got the ballot in the mail, filled it out, signed the envelope, and rode my bike the half mile to the drop box to drop it off. They sent me a notification to say they received it first, and later a notification of acceptance to confirm my signature was a match and I had correctly filled out my ballot.

It was pretty easy which gives me a little "privilege guilt" thinking about all those poor folks in large cities who have it a lot harder. Having to take time off work, get transportation, and wait in long lines. It really is criminal that it is so hard for some people to fulfill their civic duty.

Other states need to look to Colorado as an example of a great secure voting system that works. I'm proud of my state! (and glad I left Michigan)
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Re: US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)
« Reply #2662 on: October 21, 2020, 01:32:33 pm »

Holy Cannoli! Maybe that's where Trump's incriminating laptop is hidden. I bet James Comey is getting a subpeona right now. Oh, wait...

Maybe Giuliani gave it to Borat?
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« Reply #2663 on: October 21, 2020, 02:18:14 pm »

Maybe Giuliani gave it to Borat?

Speaking of Borat, have you seen this article about Rudy Giuliani's role in the new Borat movie? I promise I am not making this up. Here are a couple of paragraphs in case you don't want to read the whole thing:

"In the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist."

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"Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news programme, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras."

"After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

I didn't know Giuliani had Hollywood ambitions. I guess he figures Trump is going to lose and he needs a fallback career.

Of course, this could be satire. Given all the stuff that has happened in the past four years, it is impossible to tell the difference any more. I saw a video of Trump showing off his dance moves at a rally the other day. Who knows if even that was real. I mean, who knows? Who knows?
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« Reply #2664 on: October 21, 2020, 02:26:33 pm »

Ratcliffe is an ultra-conservative former congressman from Texas who was appointed as Director of National Intelligence specifically to support Trump. When Trump first announced that he planned to appoint Ratcliffe to the job, Republican members of the Senate suggested that they would not approve the appointment, and Trump withdrew it. Trump then later did appoint him, despite continuing objections from both parties, and he was narrowly approved, though he had no previous experience in intelligence work. He's a political hack.
a precious DNI who worked under the Obama administration called Trump a traitor and lied to Congress under oath. Radcliff is an angel comparatively. But the left wing press repeated and repeated Obama's director's claims incessantly.

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« Reply #2665 on: October 21, 2020, 02:31:27 pm »

Sounds a lot like what goes on here, more or less. The bureaucracy that looks after all that is called Elections Canada and they run things to the same standard all across the country, from keeping voter rolls, to hiring and training temporary staff, to counting ballots, etc. There are permanent staff who run the place and it operates at arm's length from politicians.

What I was getting at was that what you describe in NYC sounds more or less like a good way to do things. Why would you do it any other way, all the best practices are well understood by now pretty much all over the world. How is it possible for it NOT to run like that in some places, and get away with it, unless some bad actors like it that way? But as I said before, maybe we just hear the horror stories, and that they are not common.
Well, I wouldn't know how they pack the ballot boxes. I'm not a Democrat.

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« Reply #2666 on: October 21, 2020, 03:57:08 pm »

So Trump is passing a fine toothed comb through the electorate looking for a vote, any vote, and has dispatched Tiffany, his daughter from his second marriage to Marla Maples, to the campaign trail seeking to woo voters in the LGBTQ+ community. Apparently none of his other children would touch the assignment with a ten-foot pole.  I know Jeremy hates it when I make fashion statements, but for God's sake, she is falling out of a peach-colored cocktail dress. If you think you have the stomach for it, here you go:

https://news.yahoo.com/m-excited-tiffany-trump-speaks-231726245.html
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Re: US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)
« Reply #2667 on: October 21, 2020, 04:33:41 pm »

Speaking of Borat, have you seen this article about Rudy Giuliani's role in the new Borat movie? I promise I am not making this up. Here are a couple of paragraphs in case you don't want to read the whole thing:

"In the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist."

and

"Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news programme, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras."

"After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

I didn't know Giuliani had Hollywood ambitions. I guess he figures Trump is going to lose and he needs a fallback career.

Of course, this could be satire. Given all the stuff that has happened in the past four years, it is impossible to tell the difference any more. I even saw a video of Trump showing off his dance moves at a rally the other day. Who knows if even that was real. I mean, who knows? Who knows?

Good for Rudy!  An old guy who still wants to get laid!  Lets review, He is single and of age.  The girl is of age and he was in her bedroom at her request. It was a private setting so his privates are fair game. Best of all he still wants some!  Rudys stock went up so to speak with this one.

Pretty poor attempt by the MSM, but I guess it the best they have. 
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Re: US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)
« Reply #2668 on: October 21, 2020, 04:37:25 pm »

So Trump is passing a fine toothed comb through the electorate looking for a vote, any vote, and has dispatched Tiffany, his daughter from his second marriage to Marla Maples, to the campaign trail seeking to woo voters in the LGBTQ+ community. Apparently none of his other children would touch the assignment with a ten-foot pole.  I know Jeremy hates it when I make fashion statements, but for God's sake, she is falling out of a peach-colored cocktail dress. If you think you have the stomach for it, here you go:

https://news.yahoo.com/m-excited-tiffany-trump-speaks-231726245.html

I guess your idea of "falling out of a dress" are different than mine but perhaps she was playing the the purient interests of some of the young ladies in the audience.  Just sayin.
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« Reply #2669 on: October 21, 2020, 04:37:47 pm »

Good for Rudy!  An old guy who still wants to get laid!  Lets review, He is single and of age.  The girl is of age and he was in her bedroom at her request. It was a private setting so his privates are fair game. Best of all he still wants some!  Rudys stock went up so to speak with this one.

Pretty poor attempt by the MSM, but I guess it the best they have.

I guess if that's your idea of seduction...
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« Reply #2670 on: October 21, 2020, 04:46:48 pm »

I guess if that's your idea of seduction...

Who said anything about seduction?
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« Reply #2671 on: October 21, 2020, 04:53:04 pm »

Who said anything about seduction?

Dunno. Seems like you were just gushing about a creepy old guy having a wank.
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« Reply #2672 on: October 21, 2020, 04:55:26 pm »

Good for Rudy!  An old guy who still wants to get laid!  Lets review, He is single and of age.  The girl is of age and he was in her bedroom at her request. It was a private setting so his privates are fair game. Best of all he still wants some!  Rudys stock went up so to speak with this one.

I thought Borat said she was 15? Who knows? It was a movie so maybe Giuliani was only pretending he wanted to get laid. He might get an Oscar if his performance is convincing enough. All the movie theaters around here are shut down. I don't know if and when I'll get to watch it.
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« Reply #2673 on: October 21, 2020, 05:07:09 pm »

a precious DNI who worked under the Obama administration called Trump a traitor and lied to Congress under oath. Radcliff is an angel comparatively. But the left wing press repeated and repeated Obama's director's claims incessantly.

Yeah, but there's no doubt that Radcliffe is an incompetent know-nothing political hack. Obama's DNI, on the other hand, hasn't been shown to be incorrect.
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« Reply #2674 on: October 21, 2020, 05:25:55 pm »

Yeah, but there's no doubt that Radcliffe is an incompetent know-nothing political hack. Obama's DNI, on the other hand, hasn't been shown to be incorrect.
You have heard of the Mueller investigation, haven't you? Also, he falsely swore to the Congress. 

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« Reply #2675 on: October 21, 2020, 05:41:46 pm »

I thought Borat said she was 15? Who knows? It was a movie so maybe Giuliani was only pretending he wanted to get laid. He might get an Oscar if his performance was so convincing. All the movie theaters around here are shut down. I don't know if and when I'll get to watch it.

I think the article I read said she was 26 or something.  Its Hunter Biden and 14 year olds...  Borat will be on  on Amazon Prime starting Friday.  Nice choice of timing :) .  I never like the Borat films, I would prefer if Amazon Prime would give us the next installment of Grand Tour instead.
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« Reply #2676 on: October 21, 2020, 05:43:15 pm »

I guess your idea of "falling out of a dress" are different than mine but perhaps she was playing the the purient interests of some of the young ladies in the audience.  Just sayin.

I may have overreacted. It probably was a cocktail reception so the dress was appropriate attire. I guess. Maybe. Not really.

The image of Hillary and the young lady reminds of this picture I saw of Johnny Carson interviewing Rachel Welch. Or maybe it was someone else similarly endowed. I think he looked equally surprised.
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« Reply #2677 on: October 21, 2020, 05:46:52 pm »

I may have overreacted. It probably was a cocktail reception so the dress was appropriate attire. The image of Hillary and the young lady reminds of this picture I saw of Johnny Carson interviewing Rachel Welch. Or maybe it was someone else similarly endowed. I think he looked equally surprised.

Couldn't view that video in Canada. Was it a real or fake endowment?
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« Reply #2678 on: October 21, 2020, 05:49:32 pm »

I think the article I read said she was 26 or something.  Its Hunter Biden and 14 year olds...  Borat will be on  on Amazon Prime starting Friday.  Nice choice of timing :) .  I never like the Borat films, I would prefer if Amazon Prime would give us the next installment of Grand Tour instead.

I have Amazon Prime. I may have to watch it just to see if the article in The Guardian is satire. God, what have we come to?
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« Reply #2679 on: October 21, 2020, 05:53:28 pm »

Yeah, but there's no doubt that Radcliffe is an incompetent know-nothing political hack. Obama's DNI, on the other hand, hasn't been shown to be incorrect.

I agree. So what if Obama's DNI was a hack, not that I think he was. Isn't that whataboutism? A logical fallacy? The issue is whether Ratcliffe is a hack. Unless I am missing something.

This seems like the same argument about our COVID response, the one saying that there are other countries as bad as us.
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