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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3060 on: June 01, 2017, 03:29:04 pm »

Well, almost 30 minutes into the press conference, the message is pretty empty. So is the podium.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3061 on: June 01, 2017, 05:29:08 pm »

First off the article doesn't seem correct in it's analysis. Maybe I missed it's point correctly.

Let me see if you can grasp it if I type more slowly, a trade deficit is not automatically a bad think (as Trump thinks because we all know he hate to lose) but can actually be seen as a good thin (as the Forbes article tries to point out).

Ok, maybe if I point you to a Right-Center source called the CATO Institute:

Are Trade Deficits Really Bad News?
(it should be noted that the article is from 1998 so the numbers are out of date but economic theory hasn't changed in the last decade)

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America’s merchandise trade deficit could hit $250 billion in 1998, propelled to a record high by financial turmoil and plunging growth rates in the Far East. If the past is any guide, the widening trade gap will be reported almost universally as grim news. Critics of free trade will wave the deficit numbers as a rallying call to get tough with “unfair” trading partners.

But are trade deficits necessarily bad for the U.S. economy?

The answer is no. Trade deficits are not a sign of unfair trade practices or a lack of American “competitiveness.” Trade deficits are caused by factors in the macroeconomy that are not directly related to trade. To understand why, journalists should borrow a technique from investigative reporting and “follow the money.”

When Americans buy imports, foreigners must do something with the dollars they earn. They can either use the dollars to buy American exports or to invest in American assets, such as Treasury bills, stocks, real estate, and factories.

If the amount of investment capital entering the U.S. exceeds the amount flowing Out, the extra dollars entering the country can then be used by Americans to buy imports over and above the amount we could buy merely from what we earn by selling exports. So a current account deficit is simply the mirror image of a capital account surplus.

In the global economy, some countries, such as the United States, are net importers of capital and thus run a trade deficit. Others, such as Japan, are net capital exporters because domestic savings exceed domestic investment. The excess savings these capital exporters send abroad returns to their home market to purchase exports, creating a trade surplus.

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If a trade deficit is determined solely by rates of savings and investment, then the U.S. trade deficit will be impervious to a get-tough trade policy. Slapping higher tariffs on imports will only deprive foreigners of the dollars they would have earned by selling in the U.S. market.

This in turn will reduce the supply of dollars on the international currency market, raise the value of the dollar relative to other currencies, and make dollar-priced U.S. exports more expensive for foreign buyers, thus reducing demand for our exports. Eventually, the volume of exports will fall along with imports and the trade deficit will remain largely unchanged.

Nations do not trade with each other; people do. America’s trade deficit with the rest of the world is only the sum of the individual choices made by American citizens. Those choices, to buy an import or to sell an export, only take place if both parties to the transaction believe it will make them better off. In this way, the “balance of trade” is always positive.

The only reason the U.S. trade deficit is bad news is that so many people believe it is bad news.

So, think about the above...what part of trade deficits are not bad don't you understand? It's basic economics...Trump is a transactional win/loose sort of guy who simply doesn't understand economic theory and is simply parroting what the alt-right has been feeding him.

And if you think the CATO Institute is a left wing progressive conspiracy think tank, it's not...

From their web site:
About CATO
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The Cato Institute is a public policy research organization — a think tank — dedicated to the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets and peace. Its scholars and analysts conduct independent, nonpartisan research on a wide range of policy issues.

Founded in 1977, Cato owes its name to Cato’s Letters, a series of essays published in 18th- century England that presented a vision of society free from excessive government power. Those essays inspired the architects of the American Revolution. And the simple, timeless principles of that revolution — individual liberty, limited government, and free markets — turn out to be even more powerful in today’s world of global markets and unprecedented access to information than Jefferson or Madison could have imagined. Social and economic freedom is not just the best policy for a free people, it is the indispensable framework for the future.

It's the very hallmark of conservative republican principles...in fact, it was founded in 1974 in Wichita, Kansas as the Charles Koch Foundation and initially funded by Charles Koch. Yes, that's the one half of the Koch brothers who basically funded the rise of the Tea Party and is a huge source of GOP funding...

So, why would I possibly be able to agree with a right wing conservative? Because he's right...it's to America's best interests to be able to run a trade deficit (within reason) and be funded by other countries.

That's why it's so friggin' stupid of Trump to listen to his alt-right America 1st nut balls that really don't have a clue.

Sorry to say it bud but if you and other Trump supporters understood economics better you wouldn't be so ready to assume Trump knows what he's doing...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3062 on: June 01, 2017, 06:13:40 pm »

Well, way to go Donny...you wanted America 1st, now you're gonna get America all by itself (with Syria and Nicaragua).
SYRIA AND NICARAGUA...nice company you picked to hang out with butthead...


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China and EU offer sharp contrast with US on climate change
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Donald Trump’s antagonistic encounter with his G7 allies in Sicily last week has set up an easy public relations victory for Li Keqiang, China’s premier, who is meeting EU leaders in Brussels this week.

On his European trip, Mr Li will reiterate China’s previous commitments to combating climate warming and promoting free trade in meetings with EU leaders and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, presenting a sharp contrast with the US president’s lack of enthusiasm for the Paris accord.

Mr Trump is poised to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, according to two White House officials.

A decision by Mr Trump to back out of the Paris agreement the same week that Mr Li is in Europe would revive memories of the World Economic Forum’s annual Davos meeting, when President Xi Jinping portrayed China as a responsible global citizen just days before his US counterpart declared a new “America First” era at his inauguration.

“It has certainly given us an opportunity, especially on climate and trade issues,” said Wang Hui at the University of International Relations in Beijing. “Trump is a businessman who emphasises America’s own interests rather than common interests. China and Europe must now step up and assume our international responsibilities together.” 

So, is it Trump's plan to piss off our European allies and pull out of Paris just to help Chine? Is that his new "negotiating tactic" to make America 1st again? This helps America how?

Does anybody else think we have a friggin' idiot for a President?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3063 on: June 01, 2017, 06:48:28 pm »

Trump is an Extinction Level Event

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3064 on: June 01, 2017, 06:52:32 pm »

The only positive outcome is that we may be able to merge this thread and the one about climate change scepticism into one. ;)

But yes, it becomes pretty clear that Trump simply isn't smart enough a person to run a country, let alone the US.

I feel for the huge frustation that is felt by a large majority of Americans and am sorry for the hundreds of people that will probably die of heart releated desease as a result of the additional stress resulting from seeing their great country relegated to the role of WW big vilain in just a few months.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3065 on: June 01, 2017, 07:14:23 pm »

France, Italy, Germany defend Paris Accord, say cannot be renegotiated
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-eu-idUSKBN18S6GN

"Italy, France and Germany said on Thursday they regretted U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord and dismissed his suggestion that the global pact could be revised.

"We deem the momentum generated in Paris in December 2015 irreversible and we firmly believe that the Paris Agreement cannot be renegotiated since it is a vital instrument for our planet, societies and economies," the leaders of the three countries said in a rare joint statement.

Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron urged their allies to speed up efforts to combat climate change and said they would do more to help developing countries adapt"


Great opportunities lie ahead, China requiring European know-how and technology, and Europe seeking to achieve less dumping of Chinese steel and a mutual Trade Agreement.

Cheers,
Bart
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3066 on: June 01, 2017, 08:11:23 pm »

Let me see if you can grasp it if I type more slowly, a trade deficit is not automatically a bad think (as Trump thinks because we all know he hate to lose) but can actually be seen as a good thin (as the Forbes article tries to point out).

Ok, maybe if I point you to a Right-Center source called the CATO Institute:

Are Trade Deficits Really Bad News?
(it should be noted that the article is from 1998 so the numbers are out of date but economic theory hasn't changed in the last decade)

So, think about the above...what part of trade deficits are not bad don't you understand? It's basic economics...Trump is a transactional win/loose sort of guy who simply doesn't understand economic theory and is simply parroting what the alt-right has been feeding him.

And if you think the CATO Institute is a left wing progressive conspiracy think tank, it's not...

From their web site:
About CATO
It's the very hallmark of conservative republican principles...in fact, it was founded in 1974 in Wichita, Kansas as the Charles Koch Foundation and initially funded by Charles Koch. Yes, that's the one half of the Koch brothers who basically funded the rise of the Tea Party and is a huge source of GOP funding...

So, why would I possibly be able to agree with a right wing conservative? Because he's right...it's to America's best interests to be able to run a trade deficit (within reason) and be funded by other countries.

That's why it's so friggin' stupid of Trump to listen to his alt-right America 1st nut balls that really don't have a clue.

Sorry to say it bud but if you and other Trump supporters understood economics better you wouldn't be so ready to assume Trump knows what he's doing...
Jeff, let me put it another way.  You're a great writer of photography books. https://www.amazon.com/Jeff-Schewe/e/B001I9Q7XG  I assume you sell these all over the world.  Let's say you sold $25,000 worth of books over the last 5 years to Europe while they had import taxes and VAT taxes much higher than what America puts on European books imported to the US. 

Along comes Trump. He negotiates a deal with the EU that they will match our lower import charges reducing the cost of your books to European readers by 35%.  Because of the lower cost, sales of your books increase significantly.  Total sales over the next five years  increases to $40,000.  You and your publisher are $15,000 richer than you would have been if Europe kept those same taxes.  America is $15,000 richer.  The trade deficit is $15,000 less than it could have been.

Now, doesn't that sound like a good deal for you?  Do you see how Trump is in your corner?

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« Reply #3067 on: June 01, 2017, 08:38:47 pm »

France, Italy, Germany defend Paris Accord, say cannot be renegotiated
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-eu-idUSKBN18S6GN

"Italy, France and Germany said on Thursday they regretted U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord and dismissed his suggestion that the global pact could be revised.

"We deem the momentum generated in Paris in December 2015 irreversible and we firmly believe that the Paris Agreement cannot be renegotiated since it is a vital instrument for our planet, societies and economies," the leaders of the three countries said in a rare joint statement.

Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron urged their allies to speed up efforts to combat climate change and said they would do more to help developing countries adapt"


Great opportunities lie ahead, China requiring European know-how and technology, and Europe seeking to achieve less dumping of Chinese steel and a mutual Trade Agreement.

Cheers,
Bart
I don't see how not being part of the Paris Agreement prevents American companies from continuing to develop alternative energies.  Free markets continue to operate.  Musk isn't going to stop producing the electric Tesla car and rechargeable batteries.  If there is a market for particular goods, the free market will create it. The American taxpayer doesn't have to subsidize it.

Worse yet, is that if American stayed in the Paris agreement, it would pay the amounts even though there's no penalty for not.  But Europe and others won't pay what they said they would anymore than how they didn't pay the 2% for defense in the NATO situation..  America will wind up carrying the load as usual.  Trump made the right decision for America. 

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« Reply #3068 on: June 01, 2017, 09:01:47 pm »

Free markets continue to operate.

Markets are not free.  They're anything BUT free.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3069 on: June 01, 2017, 09:12:25 pm »

Trump is the supreme idiot and a racist to boot.  I've actually done business with this bozo and yes he tried to skip out on the last payment.  It's amazing how powerful a Mechanics Lean is and the results it achieves.  Mr balding yellow haired corpulent moron had to pay his bill before he could sell anything in the building.  The guy's a loser and is trying to drag us all down with him.  He'll always have that 35% of people who believe the earth is flat, President Obama was born in Kenya, and the sun rises in the west.  The midterm elections in 2018 will make him a lame duck because the Dems will retake one of the houses of Congress.  Today's decision to leave the Paris Agreement won't even take place until 2020 just when this bloated nitwit will get the boot from the American People (yes everyone who can vote will be voting).
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« Reply #3070 on: June 01, 2017, 11:03:18 pm »

Trump is the supreme idiot and a racist to boot.  I've actually done business with this bozo and yes he tried to skip out on the last payment.  It's amazing how powerful a Mechanics Lean is and the results it achieves.  Mr balding yellow haired corpulent moron had to pay his bill before he could sell anything in the building.  The guy's a loser and is trying to drag us all down with him.  He'll always have that 35% of people who believe the earth is flat, President Obama was born in Kenya, and the sun rises in the west.  The midterm elections in 2018 will make him a lame duck because the Dems will retake one of the houses of Congress.  Today's decision to leave the Paris Agreement won't even take place until 2020 just when this bloated nitwit will get the boot from the American People (yes everyone who can vote will be voting).
I've done business in NYC with developers like Trump and was screwed by one too.  They're all cheap, but rich.  Now we need someone to represent America as we've been screwed by the world too often.  Our last president let most of the world take advantage of us militarily and economically.   Now one of these real estate bastards is working for us.  Let's take advantage of it to secure a better future for America.  Glad you got your money back.  I didn't. 

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« Reply #3071 on: June 01, 2017, 11:19:04 pm »

The only positive outcome is that we may be able to merge this thread and the one about climate change scepticism into one. ;)

But yes, it becomes pretty clear that Trump simply isn't smart enough a person to run a country, let alone the US.

I feel for the huge frustation that is felt by a large majority of Americans and am sorry for the hundreds of people that will probably die of heart releated desease as a result of the additional stress resulting from seeing their great country relegated to the role of WW big vilain in just a few months.

Cheers,
Bernard

Obama who signed the original agreement thought he was president of the world.  Trump on the other hand knows he's only president of the US and acts that way. They'll be no more free rides at America's expense.  Sorry.   

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3072 on: June 02, 2017, 02:42:49 am »

The conventional wisdom was that the German Chancellor might lose power this fall. Now, thanks to anger at the U.S. president, she's leading in the polls.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/is-this-angela-merkels-moment-to-lead-trumps-move-to-pull-out-of-paris-accord-is-further-riling-europe
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3073 on: June 02, 2017, 02:49:08 am »

Along comes Trump. He negotiates a deal with the EU that they will match our lower import charges reducing the cost of your books to European readers by 35%.

So, along comes Trump (who didn't realize that he couldn't negotiate a unilateral trade agreement with Germany when he met with Angela Merkel) who is going to sit down with who, the G7 countries he just spat on?  Eeeeeeek, I suspect that won't go down well...

I was going to write out a well thought out and researched response to your simplistic example but even though I had a bunch written, I realized it would be tilting at windmills. Trump and his supporters have overly simplistic and largely incorrect impressions of foreign trade, the impact on jobs the cost/benefit of trade deficits or surpluses and a misunderstanding of tariffs, duties, VAT and other taxes. I could try to explain these things to you but so far you don't seem to be grasping the explanations even if delivered by hyper conservative economics like the CATO Institute.

Trump, as he has admitted in several interviews, had no clue how difficult the job of being President would be. He's not having fun...his experience in his businesses are not serving to help him learn how to govern. The people he's surrounded himself with the exception of the national security and defense people are unschooled in governance and are political rookies. They are being outplayed on the field. Some Trump supporters thought that would be good to go to Washington and tear it down and build it back up with a different shape and nature. Problem is, doing that is very difficult as Trump & team have found out and they aren't handling the difficulties well.

Today Trump said: "We don't want other leaders and other countries laughing at us anymore," thundered President Trump, "and they won't be."

Yeah, they aren't laughing...they are crying...while this is about the Paris Accords, it relates directly to international trade as well...it show a gross ineptitude in Trump's presidency.

The world's not laughing, Donald, it's crying

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"President Trump's speech was confused nonsense," said Bob Ward from the UK's Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change.

"He announced that the United States will withdraw from the Paris Agreement on climate change, while also launching negotiations to re-enter the agreement.

"But the agreement states that no country can withdraw within three years of it coming into force, and the process of withdrawal takes a further year to complete.

Mr Ward continued: "That means the United States cannot complete withdrawal from the Paris Agreement before 5 November 2020, the day after the next presidential election in the United States. So Mr Trump will not have withdrawn from the agreement within this presidential term."

So you go right ahead and hope Trump somehow learns how to become something he's never shown any ability to do, has never done and is doing it exceptionally pool so far–you/we better hope he learns how to be president soon before we circle the drain.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3074 on: June 02, 2017, 05:11:48 am »

So, along comes Trump (who didn't realize that he couldn't negotiate a unilateral trade agreement with Germany when he met with Angela Merkel) who is going to sit down with who, the G7 countries he just spat on?  Eeeeeeek, I suspect that won't go down well...
Fortunately they didn't put him in a BMW ;)
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« Reply #3075 on: June 02, 2017, 06:25:21 am »

So, along comes Trump (who didn't realize that he couldn't negotiate a unilateral trade agreement with Germany when he met with Angela Merkel) who is going to sit down with who, the G7 countries he just spat on?  Eeeeeeek, I suspect that won't go down well...

I was going to write out a well thought out and researched response to your simplistic example but even though I had a bunch written, I realized it would be tilting at windmills. Trump and his supporters have overly simplistic and largely incorrect impressions of foreign trade, the impact on jobs the cost/benefit of trade deficits or surpluses and a misunderstanding of tariffs, duties, VAT and other taxes. I could try to explain these things to you but so far you don't seem to be grasping the explanations even if delivered by hyper conservative economics like the CATO Institute.

Trump, as he has admitted in several interviews, had no clue how difficult the job of being President would be. He's not having fun...his experience in his businesses are not serving to help him learn how to govern. The people he's surrounded himself with the exception of the national security and defense people are unschooled in governance and are political rookies. They are being outplayed on the field. Some Trump supporters thought that would be good to go to Washington and tear it down and build it back up with a different shape and nature. Problem is, doing that is very difficult as Trump & team have found out and they aren't handling the difficulties well.

Today Trump said: "We don't want other leaders and other countries laughing at us anymore," thundered President Trump, "and they won't be."

Yeah, they aren't laughing...they are crying...while this is about the Paris Accords, it relates directly to international trade as well...it show a gross ineptitude in Trump's presidency.

It may all be best seen as a kind of passing fever in which the angry victim retreats to a lonely room, puts their hands over their eyes and shouts "Go away, world!". The good news is that it should pass reasonably soon. Elections may first hobble the guy, then remove him from office. In the meantime, the major powers are going to shut Trump out as best they can and wait on his passing. Yes, this will all affect trade and it will affect the scope of American influence too. They are interlinked. The more influence you have, the better the agreements you can strike with others. If you are going to slap everyone under thirty in the face, which is what this Paris stuff amounts to, then don't expect to have much influence in future. Fortunately, the US electoral system means this episode may be short-lived and so the damage not too bad. I guess we all hope so. Businesses arre likely to ignore him anyway. They aren't going to expose themselves to practices which might result in a carbon tax on their products, or miss out on the huge market for alternative energy ideas. There's nothing going for a seventy-year-old with no friends out there except for crooked lobbyists, alt-right crazies and a world view half a century behind the times. So far, Russia has sided with China over the Paris accords which means that even Mr Putin may be tiring of his antics
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3076 on: June 02, 2017, 09:01:27 am »

Obama who signed the original agreement thought he was president of the world.  Trump on the other hand knows he's only president of the US and acts that way. They'll be no more free rides at America's expense.  Sorry.

No, Obama was just aware that the US is part of the world and can both benefit from that and make the world benefit from it.

He wasn't talking about win win deals he was living and acting as one.

Cheers,
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3077 on: June 02, 2017, 09:16:32 am »

Least biased Reuters is too mild with "misunderstood", but that's when you try to be unbiased

Trump misunderstood MIT climate research, university officials say
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-trump-mit-idUSKBN18S6L0

"Massachusetts Institute of Technology officials said U.S. President Donald Trump badly misunderstood their research when he cited it on Thursday to justify withdrawing the United States from the Paris Climate Agreement.

Trump announced during a speech at the White House Rose Garden that he had decided to pull out of the landmark climate deal, in part because it would not reduce global temperatures fast enough to have a significant impact.

"Even if the Paris Agreement were implemented in full, with total compliance from all nations, it is estimated it would only produce a two-tenths of one degree Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100," Trump said.

"Tiny, tiny amount."

That claim was attributed to research conducted by MIT, according to White House documents seen by Reuters. The Cambridge, Massaschusetts-based research university published a study in April 2016 titled "How much of a difference will the Paris Agreement make?" showing that if countries abided by their pledges in the deal, global warming would slow by between 0.6 degree and 1.1 degrees Celsius by 2100.

"We certainly do not support the withdrawal of the U.S. from the Paris agreement," said Erwan Monier, a lead researcher at the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change, and one of the study's authors.

"If we don't do anything, we might shoot over 5 degrees or more and that would be catastrophic," said John Reilly, the co-director of the program, adding that MIT's scientists had had no contact with the White House and were not offered a chance to explain their work. "


And in somewhat more realistic and stronger words from Technology Review, "the White House cherry-picked the lowest number they could find";

Trump Misused MIT Research in Reasons for Ditching Climate Deal
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608015/trump-misused-mit-research-in-reasons-for-ditching-climate-deal/

"As President Donald Trump explained his rationale for withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement on Thursday, he cited research that seemed to suggest the global emissions cuts agreed to under the deal wouldn’t make a significant difference in worldwide temperatures.

“It is estimated it would only produce a two-tenths of one degree … Celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100,” he said, during a press conference in the White House Rose Garden. “Tiny, tiny amount.”

But that’s not actually what the relevant research found, or what the scientists in question concluded."


""In fact, the "two-tenths of one degree" figure seems to have come from an earlier study by the same group conducted in 2014, before the Paris deal was finalized the following year. It didn’t include all the eventual commitments to cut emissions by participating nations, or assume any continuation of those pledges beyond 2030, says Erwan Monier, coauthor of the study and principal research scientist at MIT’s department of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences.

It appears, he says, that the White House cherry picked the lowest number they could find among studies that explored the impact of the climate accord.


So it's dishonest Fake facts by Trump, again, and again. That, or he is too stupid to listen to Steve Bannon and Scott Pruitt and understand what their agenda is.

Cheers,
Bart
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #3078 on: June 02, 2017, 09:28:56 am »

Macron - Trump made a stupid decision - Let's make our planet great again.
Great and moving speech.

http://www.spiegel.de/video/emmanuel-macron-zu-donald-trump-und-klimaabkommen-video-1771575.html
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« Reply #3079 on: June 02, 2017, 09:52:15 am »

Macron - Trump made a stupid decision - Let's make our planet great again.
Great and moving speech.

http://www.spiegel.de/video/emmanuel-macron-zu-donald-trump-und-klimaabkommen-video-1771575.html

And Macron was clever enough to do it in English. And the invitation to USA citizens to come and work in France was a nice touch, probably also more to the point now that the EPA is getting dismantled.

U.S. environmental agency to offer buyouts to cut staff: memo
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-buyouts-exclusive-idUSKBN18S6N5

"The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency plans to offer some employees a buyout program to reduce staff, according to an internal memo seen by Reuters, as President Donald Trump proposes slashing the agency's budget and workforce to reduce regulation.

The memo sent by acting Deputy Administrator Mike Flynn on Thursday said the agency wants to complete the buyout program by September. It did not give a dollar figure for the buyouts or say how many employees it hoped would take the offer.

The memo was sent to all employees at the same time EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt joined Trump at the White House to announce that the United States would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement."


Cheers,
Bart
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