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« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2015, 04:20:51 pm »

Here are Caroline and Matilde, two French photographers and models, whe were holding an exhibition in a stairwell in an old Lyon walk-up.
70mm, f2.8 & 1/20 at 800 iso, so they were never both going to be in focus. Would have been better if it were Caroline, since she is looking at the camera. Oh well.
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« Reply #121 on: October 18, 2015, 02:57:08 pm »

Discovered that the humble mouth organ can actually make music; it never did when I had one. ;-(

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« Reply #122 on: October 18, 2015, 04:42:40 pm »

Nice image with nice bokeh Rob !  :)

Last Friday I went to a conference about Painting.
He sat in front of me.
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« Reply #123 on: October 18, 2015, 05:35:55 pm »

Thanks, António, it's a 2.8/135 Nikkor (manual), if I remember correctly. Used to have a 3.5/135mm originally.

Nice lens length for heads.

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« Reply #124 on: October 18, 2015, 05:52:17 pm »

Thanks, António, it's a 2.8/135 Nikkor (manual), if I remember correctly. Used to have a 3.5/135mm originally. Nice lens length for heads. Rob C

m4/3 Panasonic GX7 + Olympus 12-40 f/2.8 at f/2.8 and... 1/8 sec !!! and sharp ! at 28mm that is 56mm in 35mm.
One for the night. No black frame this time !  ::)
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« Reply #125 on: October 18, 2015, 07:15:17 pm »

These shots were part of a series of pre-election articles about the party leaders for the six largest parties in the election. One of them was to become the next prime minister. I aimed at "pure" slightly aggressive processing in B&W, on white background. On the second page there was a facial portrait shot with Sigma Art 50mm at f/1.4, slightly desaturated by combining Silver Effex "wet rock" B&W conversion with the color layer at about 25% opacity. Here is the (then) prime minister Alexander Stubb, now the minister of finance. I was not trying to be "nice", it is politics after all…
I like the B+W white as well as the colour image. A nice change from the usual dull political shots.
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« Reply #126 on: October 18, 2015, 07:19:34 pm »

True, but he wasn't allowed to finish (off!) Paris with nightmare blocks.
Le Corbusier's concept for large blocks of flats was very different to how they ended up being used.
His concept was to free up large amounts of green space for people to enjoy, not to simply cram as many people as possible into an area.
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« Reply #127 on: October 19, 2015, 06:03:05 am »

Le Corbusier had lots of great ideas... the problem was that he didn't seem to be able to think through the technical aspects, or to accept advice. He didn't think about what the wind through those open spaces between the towers would be like, or the fact that people tend to like complicated spaces where they can move between landmarks (like cafés). Similarly for his idea that appartments shouldn't have doors....

The Red Cross building in Paris had the the second glass skin, with the ventilation system moving heated or cooled air between the two: idea was you could adjust your own comfort by simply opening a window into the inter-skin space. Brilliant, except he didn't calculate how much power would be needed to adequately heat or cool and circulate the air that way... the system failed, people smashed out the glass so they could breath.

One of his buildings still survives near St Etienne, it has the rather nice innovation of having very large corridors so that they become "streets in the sky", large enough for kids to go out and play with the neighbours and so on. My architect friend met some of the inhabitants who really like it... but it was only partly occupied, was falling apart, it didn't suit a lot of people. The "machine for living" concept was based on a view of humans being willing to accept uniformity, that everyone's appartment was the same as everyone else's... and by extension, that they were themselves interchangeable.

Of course the implementation was also wrong: the French idea is to encourage "mixité sociale", so you have wealthier people who will attract small businesses that the poorer ones can use... like a village. However it was the period of de-colonisation of Algeria, huge numbers of people needed to be housed and so the "barres" were filled with poor immigrants. The ones who did well got out asap, so the problem became worse: the cités are a catastrophic problem for French society: on one hand many have been taken over by gangs, on the other they are symbols that are exploited by the extreme right. But it's very variable: the one directly across the road from me seems to work well, the one 200m behind and down the hill a bit has 50% of the windows broken, smashed furniture all around, and the road scarred from regular burning of stolen cars. I'm not easily spooked, I've wandered around Cape Town at night without feeling particularly troubled, but I'd hesitate to walk down there at night. No way I'd go with a DSLR in my hand...
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Re: Portraiture
« Reply #128 on: October 19, 2015, 06:27:22 am »

Back to portraits: the neighbour's cat came to keep me company while I'm stuck at home with a virus...

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« Reply #129 on: October 19, 2015, 06:31:26 am »

Le Corbusier had lots of great ideas... the problem was that he didn't seem to be able to think through the technical aspects, or to accept advice. He didn't think about what the wind through those open spaces between the towers would be like, or the fact that people tend to like complicated spaces where they can move between landmarks (like cafés).
Wind doesn't suddenly appear because you built a tower block instead of a thousand houses. Regarding your other point, find a study that says people would rather live in areas with green spaces that are built on and have difficult navigation.
Also, why wouldn't you have cafes in your green spaces? It's very green around here in Sheffield and most of the parks and woods spaces have cafes to feed the people enjoying the greenery

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One of his buildings still survives near St Etienne, it has the rather nice innovation of having very large corridors so that they become "streets in the sky", large enough for kids to go out and play with the neighbours and so on. My architect friend met some of the inhabitants who really like it... but it was only partly occupied, was falling apart, it didn't suit a lot of people. The "machine for living" concept was based on a view of humans being willing to accept uniformity, that everyone's apartment was the same as everyone else's... and by extension, that they were themselves interchangeable.
So terraced housing or estates with identical houses would be failures too by that reasoning. Plenty of high rises also command high prices too for their apartments/flats because people want to live in them for whatever reasons You seem to have forgotten that once decorated and furnished people's homes will look very different from each other.
Sheffield also has 'streets in the sky' with walkways big enough for milk floats to deliver milk. Now being  gentrified and marketed to the young who want to live close to work with a great view over the city. Won prestigious awards too.

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Of course the implementation was also wrong: the French idea is to encourage "mixité sociale", so you have wealthier people who will attract small businesses that the poorer ones can use... like a village. However it was the period of de-colonisation of Algeria, huge numbers of people needed to be housed and so the "barres" were filled with poor immigrants. The ones who did well got out asap, so the problem became worse: the cités are a catastrophic problem for French society: on one hand many have been taken over by gangs, on the other they are symbols that are exploited by the extreme right. But it's very variable: the one directly across the road from me seems to work well, the one 200m behind and down the hill a bit has 50% of the windows broken, smashed furniture all around, and the road scarred from regular burning of stolen cars. I'm not easily spooked, I've wandered around Cape Town at night without feeling particularly troubled, but I'd hesitate to walk down there at night. No way I'd go with a DSLR in my hand...
Sheffield had some landmark brutalist architecture which although state of the art and well built was a disaster, because of how it was implemented on a social level. Not because of the architecture.
Good architecture can also have positive social implications, but sadly penny pinching or ignorance demonstrated by local authorities may well scupper such good intentions.

Anyway here's a portrait against some brutalist style concrete.  ;)

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« Reply #130 on: October 19, 2015, 06:58:58 am »

You know he hated the translation of "brute" (=raw) as brutal ?  ;)
Champagne also comes as "brut" or even "brut de brut" and no one dares translate it as brutal bubbly  ;D

Anyway, the wind can be intensified as a result of tower construction, it would seem:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33426889
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« Reply #131 on: October 19, 2015, 07:18:17 am »

You know he hated the translation of "brute" (=raw) as brutal ?  ;)
Champagne also comes as "brut" or even "brut de brut" and no one dares translate it as brutal bubbly  ;D
You've all got it wrong, it's Breughalist architecture!  ;)
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« Reply #132 on: October 19, 2015, 07:26:08 am »

Anyway, the wind can be intensified as a result of tower construction, it would seem:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33426889
I was thinking more of the larger empty areas away from the tower as I was aware of the Venturi effect with tall buildings in close proximity.
I recall that some cooling towers fell down because of that and didn't the Twin Towers in Manhattan also have such issues?

Sheffield until recently also had it's own iconic twin towers that were very carefully taken down - with explosives.
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« Reply #133 on: October 19, 2015, 08:28:17 am »

 
...Didn't the Twin Towers in Manhattan also have such issues?

A chilly statement...

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« Reply #134 on: October 19, 2015, 09:20:03 am »

You've all got it wrong, it's Breughalist architecture!  ;)

 :D

I work in a 13 storey tower and am reminded regularly of the venturi effect: if there is wind, the rear sliding door has to be locked since the wind will suck it off its tracks... so I have to stomp around to the front door in my bicycle shoes.
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« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2015, 05:18:49 pm »

I work in a 13 storey tower and am reminded regularly of the venturi effect: if there is wind, the rear sliding door has to be locked since the wind will suck it off its tracks... so I have to stomp around to the front door in my bicycle shoes.
Get recessed cleats like SPDs, no problems walking with them. Make more sense for commuting anyway.
And to get back on topic, here's a cyclist with a different kind of shoe altogether.
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« Reply #136 on: October 20, 2015, 04:59:04 am »

Bitter-sweet memories of a day when I made a big mistake: I'd asked the other sister to try modelling, and it was a disaster - as to be fair, she told me it would be - and when this sis came back from a swim, I thought it only fitting to get her to give me a few minutes too. I wish I hadn't seen the first sister first: this one was the perfect Italian movie star except that she comes from Ibiza, and not Naples or Rome.

Sadly, she was married and that put the lid on photography. Had she not come along to 'babysit' the first girl, I wouldn't have this shot either.

Cruel, cruel world.

Nikon F3,  I think - and Ektachrome 64.



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« Reply #137 on: October 20, 2015, 05:04:36 am »

Interesting story Rob !  :D

The picture is very 60. ies isn't it ? Yes Sir, she is nice ! But married  :'(
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« Reply #138 on: October 20, 2015, 05:06:09 am »

Get recessed cleats like SPDs, no problems walking with them. Make more sense for commuting anyway.
And to get back on topic, here's a cyclist with a different kind of shoe altogether.

Love the shot; illustrates exactly why slightly wide lenses were so popular in fashion photography during the 60s/70s: 'different' take on reality, but still within the bounds of not creating ugly. My then choice was the 2.8/35mm Nikkor.

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« Reply #139 on: October 20, 2015, 05:07:28 am »

Interesting story Rob !  :D

The picture is very 60. ies isn't it ? Yes Sir, she is nice ! But married  :'(


António, I am very sixties! It's my secret weapon that nobody younger can steal!

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P.S. It's one of life's regrets that I live in a country with so many pretty, local girls, that will probably never want (or will never be allowed) to model. They are possibly better out of it, anyway, but I do regret the lost chances. I gave up asking and feeling bad about myself, as if I was someting dirty, or like that...
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