Luminous Landscape Forum
Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Cineski on November 22, 2011, 10:52:14 am
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This seems like a screaming deal for a demo kit from Calumet:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360411849372&category=170066&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_2312wt_1113
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Is a warranty worth $16,000 for a new camera? I don't know? Just seems like a stellar deal for a P65+ back with a camera included considering it's almost new.
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It says it's a demo model with 4,222 clicks.
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The back is actually worth more but they have to pay people to take the back with that DF body! :D :D
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;D How much $ is the switch to another mount, though?
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A mount swap is $3,000 USD.
Lance
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Not a bad deal to buy this package, do a mount swap to your choice, sell the camera/lens. Boom, P65+ for ~$24k. I'm looking forward to the day a used P65+ costs <$10k. John, you need to shoot more!!! :D I'll sometimes shoot 10K images per month depending on work load! It could very well be a traveling demo but since Calumet has never given me a reason to distrust them in the past....
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If you think that is a good deal, then I would check to see what some of the other resellers (including us) have as far as demo/preowned kits go.
I know that we have units in a variety of mounts with warranties available as well along with training and on-going support.
If you would like more info please let me know [email protected].
Lance
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I really don't understand why people are bothered by MFDB shot counts. There are no moving parts to wear and reading the sensor is a benign activity, so it really doesn't matter whether there are 4000 shots or 400000 shots to be honest.
I would consider age, service history and the number of different users as probably being better barometers of condition and future reliability.
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I agree with you as there are no moving parts on a Phase One (other brands do have fans for cooling) , but with a high shot count that means that it as been used quite a bit.
Which could include physical handling of the back by taking it on & off camera, wear and tear on the components such as firewire ports, buttons, flash sync , cf card ejector, etc.
Thats why when purchasing a used digital back, any brand it is highly recommended it come with some sort of warranty and or someone to stand behind the purchase.
I personally have seen backs with capture counts in the high six digits and they perform great.
Lance
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Lance,
I absolutely agree regarding the physical use aspects of age & condition. I kind of alluded to that with the user count but maybe not clearly enough. Heck, I think that I physically age every time I put on or remove my digital back!
I would absolutely agree about the warranty aspect too. Having had a DCS645M fail on me in the past and no warranty I can attest to the bottomless cost chasm to get non-warranty repairs done. (it was cheaper to buy another vs getting the FireWire board fixed). I wouldn't buy a back without warranty again, in fact with a new back like the IQ I wouldn't get one without a value-add warranty either!
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Rental or not, 4222 frames is not a lot for any professional camera.
Heck we shot 10, 654 frames last week with the Canons and blew out one shutter and one circuit board., plus we shot a terabyte of RED raw. (No issues with the RED).
Phase backs (the old style) are tough and usually last a long time, though their repairs are way high by industry standards.
The aforementioned Canon repairs on both bodies was $700. Heck Phase repairs are even higher than RED.
IMO
BC
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Just thought I would point out that the pictures on eBay are promo photos and not of the actual items. Also, serial numbers aren't provided in the listing which could answer quite a few questions of this units history after contacting the manufacture.
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Not sure if its such a great price.
Here's a P65+ with 7K shots and 1 Year warranty from a dealer for 21K.
http://www.optechsdigital.com/Demo_and_Used_Equipment.html
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Not sure if its such a great price.
Here's a P65+ with 7K shots and 1 Year warranty from a dealer for 21K.
http://www.optechsdigital.com/Demo_and_Used_Equipment.html
In the same range they have Aptus 12....
It's much better solution ;D I think 8)
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Check this out.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/x-collector-2000/m.html?_nkw&_armrs=1&_from&_ipg&_trksid=p3686
I don't know the seller, but seems a bad business move.
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Well if that's the best images they can produce to show these items, then that may explain why their business didn't take off :P
:D :D :D