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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: tho_mas on September 14, 2009, 05:58:33 am

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: tho_mas on September 14, 2009, 05:58:33 am

New Hartblei Cam.
All lenses and all backs can be used. Electr. shutter ...
Looks very interessting!

Specs by now only in German:
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam1.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam1.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam2.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam2.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam3.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam3.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam4.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam4.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam5.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam5.htm)

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: jing q on September 14, 2009, 06:29:10 am

Quote from: tho_mas

New Hartblei Cam.
All lenses and all backs can be used. Electr. shutter ...
Looks very interessting!

Specs by now only in German:
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam1.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam1.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam2.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam2.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam3.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam3.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam4.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam4.htm)
http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam5.htm (http://www.hartblei.de/de/hartbleicam5.htm)

looks abit clunky but seems to open up interesting possibilities since the electronic shutter will allow the use of modern lenses by automatically controlling aperture and shutter speed?

about 5000 euros.

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: michele on September 14, 2009, 06:32:54 am

Why should I want to buy a camera like this? 5000 euro for the body... and why those very pricy hasselblad V lenses? I'd better buy an Alpa a Sinar, a Cambo or a Silvestri...

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: BJNY on September 14, 2009, 06:57:55 am

tho mas
very interesting...thank you for posting

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: tho_mas on September 14, 2009, 07:18:02 am

Quote from: michele

Why should I want to buy a camera like this? 5000 euro for the body... and why those very pricy hasselblad V lenses? I'd better buy an Alpa a Sinar, a Cambo or a Silvestri...

of course regarding shift and tilt this camera offers very limited options. As I understand it shift movements are only possible with the Hartblei superotator lens. Tilt also with Nikon + Canon TS lenses but within limited image circle.
I see the camera as a kind of universal mount adapter incl. a shutter - so basically you can use all lenses in conjunction with a DB... for whatever you think you might do with it ;-)

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: BJNY on September 14, 2009, 08:57:09 am

Seems like an evolution of the Horseman Digiflex and Sinar M.

Wonder how aperture is set with Canon EOS and Nikon G lenses?

Wonder how it'll work with multi-shot backs?

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: BobDavid on September 14, 2009, 09:00:23 am

This thing looks like a real bow wow.

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: michele on September 14, 2009, 10:28:52 am

well, perhaps we will understand better when they will post something more and in english... For that kind of money they better make something more, I mean i can attach a copal 3 shutter to a sinar mount board, than put an Hartblei lens and on the back a sliding adapter from silvestri and.... very cheap camera and without battery...

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: jing q on September 14, 2009, 11:30:58 am

Quote from: michele

well, perhaps we will understand better when they will post something more and in english... For that kind of money they better make something more, I mean i can attach a copal 3 shutter to a sinar mount board, than put an Hartblei lens and on the back a sliding adapter from silvestri and.... very cheap camera and without battery...

what are the available shutter speeds? I might have missed that one. I only saw flash sync being 1/90s?

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: pindman on September 14, 2009, 03:25:34 pm

Anyone know if the Super Rotator will again be available for the Mamiya AFD without having to pay Phase One's much inflated prices?
Paul

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: JSK on September 14, 2009, 05:27:49 pm

Quote from: michele

well, perhaps we will understand better when they will post something more and in english...

here you go here (http://www.hartblei.de/en/hartbleicam1.htm)

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: Quentin on September 15, 2009, 06:20:53 pm

Hartblie seem to have moved upmarket in price terms ever since their liason with Zeiss presumably proved photographers would pay more for their products than when they were seen as just a budget choice.

My 45mm Superrotator (non-Zeiss) for Mamiya mount cost less than $1,000 inc. carriage and its a decent enough optic.  I guess those days have gone :-(

Still, interesting product, somewhat overpriced.

Quentin

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: Dick Roadnight on September 15, 2009, 08:01:29 pm

Quote from: JSK

here you go here (http://www.hartblei.de/en/hartbleicam1.htm)

To someone with a range of V and Nikon lenses, and an H3D, (and who might sometime get a wide angle) this looks interesting.

Title: New Hartblei Cam
Post by: PatrikR on September 17, 2009, 02:10:18 pm

Great looking camera and great design. No silly shapes or tiny buttons. Pure functionality. Really cool!

One minus though: If Hartblei is so good friend with PhaseOne now why use a Sony battery instead of the Canon type which is used in PhaseOne backs?