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Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 03, 2009, 04:24:57 am
Dear Forum,

To celebrate the Apollo space missions Hasselblad have a very special offer!

From the 1st July customers who purchase an H3Dll-50 or H3Dll-60 camera between July 1st and August 21st 2009 will be eligible for an all expenses paid trip to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, USA between September 24th and 26th 2009.

Find out more here...

http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/behindthecamera.aspx (http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/behindthecamera.aspx)

Best,



David


Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 03, 2009, 05:09:21 am
Quote from: KLaban
I thought for a moment that was going to be an all expenses paid trip to the moon!

Best

Keith

You'll have to wait for the 100th anniversary!
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: O.Ricter on July 03, 2009, 06:54:18 am
[quote name='David Grover / Hasselblad' date='Jul 3 2009, 09:24 AM' post='295378']
Dear Forum,

To celebrate the Apollo space missions Hasselblad have a very special offer!

From the 1st July customers who purchase an H3Dll-50 or H3Dll-60 camera between July 1st and August 21st 2009 will be eligible for an all expenses paid trip to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, USA between September 24th and 26th 2009.
Find out more here...
http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/behindthecamera.aspx (http://www.hasselblad.com/promotions/behindthecamera.aspx)

Best,

David




Interesting!
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Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 03, 2009, 07:01:31 am
40 years since the moon landing - it seems like a fantasy now, like it all happened in a Hollywood movie set.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 03, 2009, 08:12:24 am
Quote from: dalethorn
40 years since the moon landing - it seems like a fantasy now, like it all happened in a Hollywood movie set.

 
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: NikonMike on July 03, 2009, 10:01:02 am
Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad
...purchase an H3Dll-50 or H3Dll-60 camera...

Detailed info on the 60 doesn't seem to be online yet. Same as the 50 (sensor size) with more pixels and $$$?
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 03, 2009, 10:11:23 am
Quote from: NikonMike
Detailed info on the 60 doesn't seem to be online yet. Same as the 50 (sensor size) with more pixels and $$$?

Full frame CCD from Dalsa and a few more $$$ than the 50.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: PHOTO ZARA on July 03, 2009, 11:18:07 am
Quote from: dalethorn
40 years since the moon landing - it seems like a fantasy now, like it all happened in a Hollywood movie set.

you could be right cause' they were piloted by Stanley Kubrick

otherwise you wouldn't need EF 600mm or EF 1200mm to be able to see the marketing landscape on the moon by now

fisheye would be more than enough  
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: markowich on July 03, 2009, 12:32:21 pm
Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad
Full frame CCD from Dalsa and a few more $$$ than the 50.

david,
does this mean the H3DII 60 will be out in august? do we already have details on the implementation od
using HCD lenses? i know, they will crop, but what kind of mask will appear in the viewfinder?
peter
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: cyberean on July 03, 2009, 04:10:30 pm
Quote from: dalethorn
40 years since the moon landing - it seems like a fantasy now, like it all happened in a Hollywood movie set.
the only moonwalk i've ever witnessed was done by Michael Jackson

Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: free1000 on July 06, 2009, 01:33:55 pm
Neil Armstrong was the one who took the pictures on the Moon, and he is one person, I guarantee you will not be meeting in Florida!

He has learned not to waste his time on PR meetings, as people try to steal his hair and sell it off.

He hasn't signed an autograph since the 1980's
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 06, 2009, 03:37:01 pm
I can guess at what sort of insulating details were needed for the cameras on the moon, given 250 F or so temperatures.  I'm curious how they protected the film, particularly color film, end to end (from launch to return).  Not just for temps, but there's a lot of radiation outside of Earth's shields.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 06, 2009, 04:09:02 pm
Quote from: markowich
david,
does this mean the H3DII 60 will be out in august? do we already have details on the implementation od
using HCD lenses? i know, they will crop, but what kind of mask will appear in the viewfinder?
peter

September is the expected release date for the H3D60.

There is a very nominal crop on the HCD28 and only at the 35 setting on the HCD35-90, so its not like you will need a dramatic crop line inside the viewfinder.  I would expect the glass screen to indicate the available area for the HCD lenses, but I will confirm.

David


Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 06, 2009, 04:11:19 pm
Quote from: free1000
Neil Armstrong was the one who took the pictures on the Moon, and he is one person, I guarantee you will not be meeting in Florida!

He has learned not to waste his time on PR meetings, as people try to steal his hair and sell it off.

He hasn't signed an autograph since the 1980's

Actually several astronauts took images on the moon as many photographs show astronauts with Hasselblad's hung around their suits.  So it was not only Neil Armstrong who was responsible.


Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 06, 2009, 05:23:26 pm
Quote from: dalethorn
I can guess at what sort of insulating details were needed for the cameras on the moon, given 250 F or so temperatures.  I'm curious how they protected the film, particularly color film, end to end (from launch to return).  Not just for temps, but there's a lot of radiation outside of Earth's shields.

In a real sense, there is no actual "temperature" on the moon given the lack of an atmosphere.  Objects do have a temperature however.  For a really good primer about both the thermodynamics on the moon and the Hasselblad cameras, start here:

http://www.clavius.org/envradfilm.html (http://www.clavius.org/envradfilm.html)
http://www.clavius.org/envheat.html (http://www.clavius.org/envheat.html)
http://www.clavius.org/ (http://www.clavius.org/)
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11-hass.html (http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11-hass.html)

Apollo astronauts made over 8000 images while on the lunar surface on the Apollo 11, 12,14,15,16 and 17 missions.  All that returned to earth on each mission were the long roll magazines.  The cameras and lenses remained on the surface.

Here is a great link to low res versions of all the Apollo photography:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/)

And for the very best source of high res stills, videos, and transcripts of each surface mission:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html)

Sorry for the long post, but I'm really quite a fan of the Apollo photography.



Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on July 06, 2009, 06:04:50 pm
Quote from: infocusinc
In a real sense, there is no actual "temperature" on the moon given the lack of an atmosphere.  Objects do have a temperature however.  For a really good primer about both the thermodynamics on the moon and the Hasselblad cameras, start here:

http://www.clavius.org/envradfilm.html (http://www.clavius.org/envradfilm.html)
http://www.clavius.org/envheat.html (http://www.clavius.org/envheat.html)
http://www.clavius.org/ (http://www.clavius.org/)
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11-hass.html (http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11-hass.html)

Apollo astronauts made over 8000 images while on the lunar surface on the Apollo 11, 12,14,15,16 and 17 missions.  All that returned to earth on each mission were the long roll magazines.  The cameras and lenses remained on the surface.

Here is a great link to low res versions of all the Apollo photography:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/)

And for the very best source of high res stills, videos, and transcripts of each surface mission:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html)

Sorry for the long post, but I'm really quite a fan of the Apollo photography.


Thankyou very much Craig!

Here is a shortcut to the image libraries...

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html)
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 06, 2009, 07:21:47 pm
Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad
Thankyou very much Craig!

Here is a shortcut to the image libraries...

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html)

No Problem!  I love the images.  Here is one of my favorites and one that totally drives the "apollo was a hoax crowd" nuts

(http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-66-9306HR.jpg)
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: John.Murray on July 06, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
I believe the relationship between NASA and Hasselblad began with Wally Schirra in Mercury 8 - he brought along his personal 500C for the "trip"....
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: hubell on July 06, 2009, 09:43:17 pm
Quote from: free1000
Neil Armstrong was the one who took the pictures on the Moon, and he is one person, I guarantee you will not be meeting in Florida!

He has learned not to waste his time on PR meetings, as people try to steal his hair and sell it off.

He hasn't signed an autograph since the 1980's

According to Phase One, he is pissed that Hasselblad closed the H3D.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 06, 2009, 10:26:29 pm
Quote from: infocusinc
No Problem!  I love the images.  Here is one of my favorites and one that totally drives the "apollo was a hoax crowd" nuts

All silliness aside, NASA has suffered some credibility problems due to R.C. Hoagland's muckraking, but also because of their long-time association with the boys from Peenemunde.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 06, 2009, 10:52:36 pm
Quote from: dalethorn
All silliness aside, NASA has suffered some credibility problems due to R.C. Hoagland's muckraking, but also because of their long-time association with the boys from Peenemunde.

Balderdash.  Apollo is arguably the most well documented series of events in the history of mankind.  Spend enough time with the evidence and enough time fleshing out the mistakes of the hoaxers claims and there is only one conclusion...the missions happened exaclty as advertised.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: cyberean on July 07, 2009, 12:01:06 am
hey ... perhaps instead of an all expenses paid trip to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida,
Hasselblad could arrange an all expense paid trip to Hawaii's Keck observatory, where the lucky
winner can search for all them Hasselblad cameras left on the moon ...

evidently, one can never have enough evidence ...

Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 07, 2009, 12:25:29 am
Quote from: infocusinc
Balderdash.  Apollo is arguably the most well documented series of events in the history of mankind.  Spend enough time with the evidence and enough time fleshing out the mistakes of the hoaxers claims and there is only one conclusion...the missions happened exaclty as advertised.

Not intended as a comment on Apollo.  R.C. Hoagland gets whatever credibility he has not on Apollo hoaxes, but on other items he claims NASA is failing to publish.  And the relationship of NASA to Germans who had much of their personnel records laundered is simple history, and somewhat embarrassing.  The 60's and 70's missions may seem like fun and games, but it's very serious business with the astronauts, for all kinds of reasons, national security not excepted.  It's that last part, and the public's acquaintance with the likes of 007 and Tom Clancy books that help fuel various speculations.  I won't say I buy any of the stories, but I sure made a good partial living selling books on this stuff.  And that *was* a lot of fun and games. C'est la vie.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 07, 2009, 12:46:27 am
Interesting, too, when you think of the heroic sacrifice of many of those astronauts who did pioneering space work, and didn't make it back home, what a small world it really is.  Judy Resnik would occasionally do some work at daddy's office on Market St. in Akron.  Dr. Resnik was our family optometrist for many years.  When our retail store crew ate breakfast at the restaurant across from Polly's in Santa Monica, one of the waiters mentioned that she was a relative of Christa McAuliffe (sister or sister-in-law, don't remember which).  Makes it a little bit personal anyway.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 07, 2009, 09:04:50 am
Quote from: cyberean
hey ... perhaps instead of an all expenses paid trip to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida,
Hasselblad could arrange an all expense paid trip to Hawaii's Keck observatory, where the lucky
winner can search for all them Hasselblad cameras left on the moon ...

evidently, one can never have enough evidence ...

Interesting though but your suggestion would require something with a bit more resolving power...
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 07, 2009, 09:09:25 am
Quote from: dalethorn
Not intended as a comment on Apollo.  R.C. Hoagland gets whatever credibility he has not on Apollo hoaxes, but on other items he claims NASA is failing to publish.  And the relationship of NASA to Germans who had much of their personnel records laundered is simple history, and somewhat embarrassing.  The 60's and 70's missions may seem like fun and games, but it's very serious business with the astronauts, for all kinds of reasons, national security not excepted.  It's that last part, and the public's acquaintance with the likes of 007 and Tom Clancy books that help fuel various speculations.  I won't say I buy any of the stories, but I sure made a good partial living selling books on this stuff.  And that *was* a lot of fun and games. C'est la vie.

Hoagland has "credibility"?  I must have missed that when I studied his work. In any case we are kind of moving off topic here but I would be more than happy to discuss this in greater detail in say the coffee cup or at a different forum.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: dalethorn on July 07, 2009, 11:17:08 am
Quote from: infocusinc
Hoagland has "credibility"?  I must have missed that when I studied his work. In any case we are kind of moving off topic here but I would be more than happy to discuss this in greater detail in say the coffee cup or at a different forum.

No need - no disagreement here.  I mean, look at the History Channel - Bigfoot, Nessie et al.  I've become accustomed to finding things in their appropriate places in the bookstores, but I have to wonder whose idea it was to put that stuff on the History channel.  Seems like there are other channels they could use.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: cyberean on July 07, 2009, 12:44:04 pm
Quote from: infocusinc
Interesting though but your suggestion would require something with a bit more resolving power...
nah ... one can just use their imagination to compensate
for what they don't see or can't find.
Title: Hasselblad Apollo 11 40th Anniversary
Post by: Craig Lamson on July 07, 2009, 05:18:26 pm
Quote from: cyberean
nah ... one can just use their imagination to compensate
for what they don't see or can't find.

Or maybe they need a p65..opps..sorry Hassy thread...h60....