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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: amsp on February 26, 2008, 01:54:28 pm
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http://www.apple.com/macbookpro (http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/)
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http://www.apple.com/macbookpro (http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/)
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...and thank goodness someone gave me a heads up a few days ago. I nearly bought one yesterday!
Time to buy one now then?
J
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...and thank goodness someone gave me a heads up a few days ago. I nearly bought one yesterday!
Time to buy one now then?
J
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Time to buy last gen out of the apple refurb store, rather. 2 days enough it was good enough, it still is, at a discount! Of course, I'm a cheap bastard.
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Ive been waiting too...apple is really up their own ass these days the upgrade was dissapointing for a pro series model. I expected the 2.5 with L2 6mb cache to be standard, and why the hell at this point in time do I have to pay $100 extra for a 7200rpm hd? That should be standard on a pro machine. At least the standard video card is 256mb 8600 now.
Rant over.
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Ive been waiting too...apple is really up their own ass these days the upgrade was dissapointing for a pro series model. I expected the 2.5 with L2 6mb cache to be standard, and why the hell at this point in time do I have to pay $100 extra for a 7200rpm hd? That should be standard on a pro machine. At least the standard video card is 256mb 8600 now.
Rant over.
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The 2.5 with 6mb cache appears to be standard in UK.
As regards refurbs... waste of time here in the UK. There is at present very little choice. I can get a good educational discount on MY customised specification, so refurbs might work for you guys in the States, but not for me!
Definitely agree about the hard drive though.
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I paid the extra 100GBP for the 7200rpm HD in the last series. Had to wait five weeks for it to arrived though. Unimpressed.
Steve
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Would you buy the 15 inch with glossy screen or matte?
My old 12 inchs screen looks black once you are outside on a sunny day.
Bernd
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Would you buy the 15 inch with glossy screen or matte?
My old 12 inchs screen looks black once you are outside on a sunny day.
Bernd
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Opinion seems to favour the matte screen. Too many problems with saturation and reflection with the glossy screen, so I've read.
BTW Apples a bit cheeky with the hard drive thing; you can no upgrade to a 7200 hard drive for GBP30, but it's a 200 rather than 250 Gb
(I wonder can I use 250 on a single day shoot! Maybe I should get a Lacie and offload when I fill the whole hard drive!)
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How important is a 7200 rpm disk when shooting with my H3D39 and a FW800 cable? Will a 5400 rpm modell slow down the whole setup? I plan to buy the 2,4 Ghz model and of course upgrade to 4GB ram. I shoot people and portraits. Can I expect images to pop up immediatley even after a burst of, lets say, 40 shots?
Bernd
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Would you buy the 15 inch with glossy screen or matte?
My old 12 inchs screen looks black once you are outside on a sunny day.
Bernd
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I would go with a 15" with a matte screen. The 17" are quite large and most laptop cases and bags are geared towards the 15". The matte screen is like a mirror and is quite difficult to get all those annoying art director smudges off of (I hate it when they touch the screen).
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Chris you really meant the matte screen is like a mirror or did you mean the glossy screen?
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I would go with a 15" with a matte screen. The 17" are quite large and most laptop cases and bags are geared towards the 15". The matte screen is like a mirror and is quite difficult to get all those annoying art director smudges off of (I hate it when they touch the screen).
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Thanks Chris.
Any comments on disk speed 5400 vs. 7200 for shooting tethered with my H3D?
Bernd
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I would go with a 15" with a matte screen. The 17" are quite large and most laptop cases and bags are geared towards the 15". The matte screen is like a mirror and is quite difficult to get all those annoying art director smudges off of (I hate it when they touch the screen).
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I would have thought the glossy screen was like a mirror. I have a 24" matte screen in front of me that's filthy, but you really only notice when it's turned off / screensaver / powerdown.
BTW Chris, when's the new Phase / Mamiya AFD3 available... Phase One europe wouldn't discuss it with me yesterday at Focus on Imaging... In fact, when they learnt I'd bought my back from you, they didn't want to discuss anything. Friendly Bunch!
(Yair was far nicer; lovely to meet him in person, and put a face to the posts)
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Thanks Chris.
Any comments on disk speed 5400 vs. 7200 for shooting tethered with my H3D?
Bernd
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I have swapped my HD for a 7200RPM. I find it is better (read noticeably faster) with my CF39. Especially when I also edit and process on the same machine.
I simply bought a loose 2.5" 7200RPM disk and installed it myself which at that time was cheaper than buying a 7200RPM machine with Apple.
Still I find the MBP too slow. I am waiting for either a dual cpu or Intel quad core laptop before I upgrade my current 15" MBP.
I seem to be one of the few that have a glossy screen with which I am perfectly happy (hardly ever use it in the sun).
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Still I find the MBP too slow. I am waiting for either a dual cpu or Intel quad core laptop before I upgrade my current 15" MBP.
I seem to be one of the few that have a glossy screen with which I am perfectly happy (hardly ever use it in the sun).
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It'll be interesting to see if and when Apple go for multiprocessor notebooks. You'd imagine there'd need to be some careful load sensitive throttling and better batteries to ensure that when you do need to use it off the mains, it lasts more than 10 minutes!
BTW, did you have any problem calibrating your glossy screen?
(Kind of academic question though, I just ordered the matte one)
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Indeed batterylife will be an issue. I also hope they can improve on the lifetime of the batteries. Mine only lasted about a year.
No problem calibrating the screen. Just as smoothly as any other screen. I also don't have the dreaded 'yellow' corners.
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I have swapped my HD for a 7200RPM. I find it is better (read noticeably faster) with my CF39. Especially when I also edit and process on the same machine.
I simply bought a loose 2.5" 7200RPM disk and installed it myself which at that time was cheaper than buying a 7200RPM machine with Apple.
Still I find the MBP too slow. I am waiting for either a dual cpu or Intel quad core laptop before I upgrade my current 15" MBP.
I seem to be one of the few that have a glossy screen with which I am perfectly happy (hardly ever use it in the sun).
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I once investigated about replacing fan and heat sink of my old PB 12´and decided not do do it. I would have to unmantle the whole notebook: hard disk, motherboard, modem etc.
How about changing the HD in the current MBP? How about warranty?
(edit: I found a description on [a href=\"http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/85.0.0.html]http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/85.0.0.html[/url]. Too difficult. And Im sure it will affect warranty.)
Your statement will at least let me walk into a store and look at a glossy MBP screen. I once saw a glossy screen on a Sony Vaio some years ago and it looked as brilliant as a Cibachrome print. Only the MacBook screens are disappointing.
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I bought a 160gb HD 7200 and put it in my 2.4 Ghz 15" myself (last generation LED model). At the time it was about $200.00 It is better for large transfers, like 20-30 gigs but for the small stuff I am unimpressed. I don't think that I would see a difference shooting tethered. The battery life suffers some, not a lot but would I do it again? NO. I would run a large 5400 empty. Like a 200 gb drive with no more than 80 gbs on it. It would almost be a wash in speed and you would get better battery life. Check Barefeats.com for laptop HD reviews. Glossy screen is the way to go.
Ken
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The glossy screens are really impressive. Very crisp and detailed. Amazing contrast! But, like you said here it's like a mirror. That's why I choose the mate screen, not as vivid but much better and practical.
I work on location thetered to a MBP with 3 Gig Ram and it's been really stable. I changed the internal drive (isn't that hard) with another 5400 and, to be honest I can see the improvement of having a 7200 in my G5 but the MBP doesn't seem to need 7200 rpm.
The batteries took about 2 hours before they run out last session. You can decrease the brightness in the screen to save power. It makes difference!
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Chris you really meant the matte screen is like a mirror or did you mean the glossy screen?
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I meant that the glossy screen is like a mirror. Sorry about that.
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I can liken the glossy screen to a glossy print. It's snappy and vivid. The matte screen mimics a matte print. It's a bit understated and colors don't "pop."
Here is a link to our web site showing a solution that is great with whichever screen you choose:
http://www.captureintegration.com/solutions/featuredproduct/ (http://www.captureintegration.com/solutions/featuredproduct/)
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I would have thought the glossy screen was like a mirror. I have a 24" matte screen in front of me that's filthy, but you really only notice when it's turned off / screensaver / powerdown.
BTW Chris, when's the new Phase / Mamiya AFD3 available... Phase One europe wouldn't discuss it with me yesterday at Focus on Imaging... In fact, when they learnt I'd bought my back from you, they didn't want to discuss anything. Friendly Bunch!
(Yair was far nicer; lovely to meet him in person, and put a face to the posts)
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Jon,
A great screen cleaner is Monster's iClean. They have a couple of different sizes and it usually comes with a microfiber cleaning cloth.
We hope to have more information in the next few weeks about the new camera system. I'll post something as soon as we have more news.
Chris Lawery
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Jon,
A great screen cleaner is Monster's iClean. They have a couple of different sizes and it usually comes with a microfiber cleaning cloth.
We hope to have more information in the next few weeks about the new camera system. I'll post something as soon as we have more news.
Chris Lawery
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Just the sort of thing I need... cleaning a crt screen was so much easier... any cleaning product from the supermarket shelf, and a soft cloth / t-shirt / socks (well maybe not!)
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I don't get all the fuss about the glossy screen. I never have problems with it. I take it with me on location, in the studio, at home, etc... I do avoid the sun but the matte is also horrible in the sun.
If I show images to clients on the glossy they are always impressed which is what really counts to me. Yes, you do have to make them look at the screen at a small angle.
I clean my screen with window glass cleaner (Glassex it is called over here and is being sold by every supermarket). Sofar I have the MBP 2 years and no problems whatsoever with cleaning.
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I clean my screen with window glass cleaner (Glassex it is called over here and is being sold by every supermarket). Sofar I have the MBP 2 years and no problems whatsoever with cleaning.
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I'm surprised re: Glassex! Maybe I'm just being an over cautious old ninny!
J
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What's the real world difference between the 2.4 GHz config and the 2.5 GHz config with the 15" screen?
The 2.4 GHz with 2GB RAM, 200 GB drive, NVIDIA card with 256 MB is $1999
The 2.5 GHZ with 2GB RAM, 250 GB drive, NVIDIA card with 512 MB is $2499
Will the $500 model give a noticeable difference for tethered capture, RAW processing and PhotoShop work?
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What's the real world difference between the 2.4 GHz config and the 2.5 GHz config with the 15" screen?
The 2.4 GHz with 2GB RAM, 200 GB drive, NVIDIA card with 256 MB is $1999
The 2.5 GHZ with 2GB RAM, 250 GB drive, NVIDIA card with 512 MB is $2499
Will the $500 model give a noticeable difference for tethered capture, RAW processing and PhotoShop work?
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You missed out the 6mb cache on the 2.5 processor model; This would be a little more expensive, but should give a reasonable performance advantage, especially when you put in after market +2Gb ram, and have the faster hard drive, and more graphics memory.
General idea is not to have a slow component making all the others wait too long ... that's the way I'm thinking anyway.
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I don't get all the fuss about the glossy screen. I never have problems with it. I take it with me on location, in the studio, at home, etc... I do avoid the sun but the matte is also horrible in the sun.
If I show images to clients on the glossy they are always impressed which is what really counts to me. Yes, you do have to make them look at the screen at a small angle.
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I couldn't agree more. I shoot inside and out tethered. If things get bad outside, I use a Lightware hood for the laptop.
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I would NEVER leave home with out this.
http://www.seaportdigital.com/ivisorPro.html (http://www.seaportdigital.com/ivisorPro.html)
and this
http://www.roadtools.com/podium.html (http://www.roadtools.com/podium.html)
I cut holes in the side of the case for firewire cables, usb and power cables.
Ken
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Hi,
Getting a New Mac Book Pro 17" on sat . I want to shoot tethered to my H 25 back.
I always shoot in doors with laptop pluged in to AC outlet. Any power issues with the firewire cable not producing enough power?
Thanks Bill
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Any one here is using Mac Book Pro with Phase One P 25 tethered ?
There seams to be power problems with the H 25 and I wonder if it applies to th H ones...
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How important is a 7200 rpm disk when shooting with my H3D39 and a FW800 cable? Will a 5400 rpm modell slow down the whole setup? I plan to buy the 2,4 Ghz model and of course upgrade to 4GB ram. I shoot people and portraits. Can I expect images to pop up immediatley even after a burst of, lets say, 40 shots?
Bernd
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I am in the same position of trying to decide on the smaller 7200 or bigger 5400 drives. On a video forum I am a member of, where speed is even more important, it was stated that on 2.5" drives the speed differences are not as relevant as they are on 3.5" drives. It was also mentioned that the 250gig drive has higher density, which will also speed up seek times. So the difference may be very minimal. I personally will probably go for the larger drive.
Hope this helps.