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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 04:45:15 am

Title: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 04:45:15 am
Achtung unaware US Freedom Photographers and Tourists!!

"The furtive photography under the skirt (upskirting) or in the neckline will be a crime in the future. The same applies to the photography or filming of fatalities. The Bundestag has passed a corresponding tightening of the law. -(Süddeutsche Zeitung)

 Those repressive Germans...

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: jeremyrh on July 03, 2020, 04:48:15 am
Achtung unaware US Freedom Photographers and Tourists!!

"The furtive photography under the skirt (upskirting) or in the neckline will be a crime in the future. The same applies to the photography or filming of fatalities. The Bundestag has passed a corresponding tightening of the law. -(Süddeutsche Zeitung)

 Those repressive Germans...

;D ;D ;D

Damned communists !!!!
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: LesPalenik on July 03, 2020, 05:31:49 am
How about kilts or those 2 ft long swimming trunks?
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 03, 2020, 11:19:44 am
No problem for us Americans, since the EU has just prohibited us from visiting Europe.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 11:33:38 am
No problem for us Americans, since the EU has just prohibited us from visiting Europe.

A lot of that is just political because Trump previously imposed restrictions on Europeans coming here. 

In any case, who wants to go to Europe?  My wife and I discussed going before the virus.  We wanted to do a cruise around the Baltic Sea, visit Italy and Spain and Israel.  No way we're going now.  Let's face it. Until this virus is under control, no one's going anywhere for the most part. Airplanes, cruise ships, trains, buses, etc. are like Petri dishes.  The only thing good about traveling now, is there won't be any lines and you'll be able to shoot landscapes without people in them. 
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 12:56:18 pm
A lot of that is just political because Trump previously imposed restrictions on Europeans coming here. 


I think that the USA is considered a high risk country in Re Covid.
It's in the news every day.

You are in company of other countries like Brazil, Serbia, Argentina, Sweden, Israel, Kosovo, Saudi Arabia etc.

You shouldn't think that because of that person Trump the Europeans dislike Americans. This should be a passing accident.

If you come to Switzerland you'll have to stay for 10 days in quarentene. Then it's over.
No hard feelings, then you're free. Probably no upskirting, however ;)


Freedom is limited for everybody around here  ;D ;D

In exchange, we have less deaths
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: kers on July 03, 2020, 01:20:40 pm
...
No hard feelings, then you're free. Probably no upskirting, however ;)
...

WHat! The Swiss followed Germany?!
I thought they were neutral...
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 01:34:07 pm
I think that the USA is considered a high risk country in Re Covid.
It's in the news every day.

You are in company of other countries like Brazil, Serbia, Argentina, Sweden, Israel, Kosovo, Saudi Arabia etc.

You shouldn't think that because of that person Trump the Europeans dislike Americans. This should be a passing accident.

If you come to Switzerland you'll have to stay for 10 days in quarentene. Then it's over.

No hard feelings, then you're free. Probably no upskirting, however ;)


Freedom is limited for everybody around here  ;D ;D

In exchange, we have less deaths

What is quarantine?  Who pays for it?  Where do you stay?  How does that work? Who's going to travel to Europe from North America when they have to stay in quarantine for ten days? 
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: LesPalenik on July 03, 2020, 01:54:50 pm
What is quarantine?  Who pays for it?  Where do you stay?  How does that work? Who's going to travel to Europe from North America when they have to stay in quarantine for ten days?

In Canada, the obligatory quarantine for all incoming travellers has been set to 14 days. In most cases the tourist pays for it. But he can choose his hotel or a cottage.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 02:05:04 pm
In Canada, the obligatory quarantine for all incoming travellers has been set to 14 days. In most cases the tourist pays for it. But he can choose his hotel or a cottage.
How do you quarantine in a hotel?  Where do you eat?  Why would a tourist visit Canada or Europe and pay for two weeks in a hotel where they can't leave the room?
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: LesPalenik on July 03, 2020, 02:08:42 pm
How do you quarantine in a hotel?  Where do you eat?  Why would a tourist visit Canada or Europe and pay for two weeks in a hotel where they can't leave the room?

That's the price of the admission. As to the food, the room service should be safe.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 02:11:35 pm
WHat! The Swiss followed Germany?!
I thought they were neutral...

We are so unfree that we wouldn't even try to do upskirting.
Probably there is a penalty for doing that, written somewhere  :(
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 02:13:24 pm
That's the price of the admission. As to the food, the room service should be safe.
We're getting a lot of cabin fever locked up here in NJ.  So I suggested to my wife we get out of here for a few days.  We could rent a house or cabin in New York's Catskill Mountains, or the Adirondacks.  It would be sterile and we could isolate there but at least be away and safe.  We'd drive and wouldn't need public transportation as we're only a few hours away.  She said nothing doing.  She's not paying for house she has to cook in and clean when she could do that at home.

So much for my idea. 
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 02:15:12 pm
We are so unfree that we wouldn't even try to do upskirting.
Probably there is a penalty for doing that, written somewhere  :(
When mini and micro skirts were in favor years ago, and I was a lot younger living in NYC, it was always more fun walking up the subway stairs then down.  :)
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 02:18:06 pm
When mini and micro skirts were in favor years ago, and I was a lot younger living in NYC, it was always more fun walking up the subway stairs then down.  :)
And taking photographs as well? Now, now, Alan...
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: Alan Klein on July 03, 2020, 02:27:32 pm
And taking photographs as well? Now, now, Alan...
No, I never did that.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: jeremyrh on July 03, 2020, 03:43:58 pm
No, I never did that.

What’s the difference?
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: John Camp on July 03, 2020, 04:34:47 pm
New Mexico has a 14-day quarantine for visitors from anywhere, arriving by any form of travel. Of course, we're right between Texas and Arizona, so there's reason to be concerned. The Navajo Nation, which occupies a good part of New Mexico, has a serious problem with the virus because of communal living styles.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: John Camp on July 03, 2020, 04:35:52 pm
What’s the difference?

Dementia eventually makes the memory fade. Photographs can continue virtually forever.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: rabanito on July 03, 2020, 05:26:07 pm
No, I never did that.
I wasn't serious, Alan  ;)
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: BAB on July 03, 2020, 05:51:59 pm
Funny law Europe never adapted any laws forbidding naked body parts in commercials, hippacridical since nude beachs seem to be encouraged. a privacy thing to some countries trying to be somewhat polite I guess. Can you still drive in Germany with no speed limit?
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: LesPalenik on July 03, 2020, 10:02:10 pm
Funny law Europe never adapted any laws forbidding naked body parts in commercials, hippacridical since nude beachs seem to be encouraged. a privacy thing to some countries trying to be somewhat polite I guess. Can you still drive in Germany with no speed limit?

Yes, generally on the Autobahns there is still no speed limit. Although some sections are limited to 130kmh or less. And lately some politicians have been campaigning to impose the speed limits, so go there now while you can still press the pedal to the metal.
Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: kers on July 04, 2020, 03:59:37 am
Yes, generally on the Autobahns there is still no speed limit....

That is what i call freedom! Those car crazy 'free' Americans can learn from that.
To be honest i dont't care... i think it is rather dangerous especially on autobahns with two lanes up and down...
You cannot drive 120 ... it is 95 behind a truck or get pushed aside by some Porsche with flickering lights... very annoying.
In the Netherlands they have levelled all traffic at 100km/h during the day because of air pollution.
Everyone driving the same speed is the safest, but a bit boring...
I like to ride my bycicle :)

Title: Re: The Lunacy of German/European Street Photography Laws - CONTINUED!!
Post by: LesPalenik on July 04, 2020, 05:23:51 am
That is what i call freedom! Those car crazy 'free' Americans can learn from that.
To be honest i dont't care... i think it is rather dangerous especially on autobahns with two lanes up and down...
You cannot drive 120 ... it is 95 behind a truck or get pushed aside by some Porsche with flickering lights... very annoying.
In the Netherlands they have levelled all traffic at 100km/h during the day because of air pollution.
Everyone driving the same speed is the safest, but a bit boring...
I like to ride my bycicle :)

Last year, I drove from Frankfurt to Passau on the Autobahn, and the greatest risk was not the unlimited speed, but very narrow lanes on several road construction sections. The temporary lanes were extremely narrow. I stayed mainly in the left lane, because the right lane was occupied by big trucks. There were literally just a few inches space around me - to the left to me, there was a heavy concrete barrier and on the right the trucks moving around 100-120kmh. On that trip I drove over 4,000km on big highways and small winding country roads, and those narrow temporary lanes were the most dangerous and most stressful. Fortunately, my car never touched the barriers or trucks on those sections. Compared with that, breezing along at 160kmh on the unencumbered freeways was a treat and much more relaxing.