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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: David Sutton on May 04, 2018, 10:06:21 pm

Title: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: David Sutton on May 04, 2018, 10:06:21 pm
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2018/05/a-guide-to-american-political-ironies/

Laughed myself silly, but every country on earth has something similar.
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 06, 2018, 09:35:56 am
That’s great.

Anyone knows more about this bit:”17,000 Cherokees owned 2,000 slaves”?
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: James Clark on May 06, 2018, 10:55:46 am
That’s great.

Anyone knows more about this bit:”17,000 Cherokees owned 2,000 slaves”?

I recall something about it, but I suspect there's more to the story.  The entirety of that list is sort of problematic in that it picks certain bottom-line facts without context in an effort to show something - I'm not sure what but it feels somewhat like an agenda is present.
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: RSL on May 06, 2018, 11:11:35 am
+1
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: David Sutton on May 06, 2018, 06:37:27 pm
The entirety of that list is sort of problematic in that it picks certain bottom-line facts without context in an effort to show something - I'm not sure what but it feels somewhat like an agenda is present.
Yes, of course. Just like the contemporary narrative on any subject. Moving outside of that can be quite difficult, especially as most of us suffer a sort of collective amnesia.
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 06, 2018, 06:54:35 pm
I was always saying that Clinton was the best Republican president ;)
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: James Clark on May 06, 2018, 09:03:06 pm
I was always saying that Clinton was the best Republican president ;)

You're kidding, but that's not entirely inaccurate.  Laffer is a fan of Clinton as well, and he (Clinton) is probably the best example of a true moderate I'll see in my lifetime.

Now that we've totally dispensed with the (always-tenuous) conservative requirement for personal morals, Clinton can ascend to his rightful place among the greats across the political spectrum. :)
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: James Clark on May 06, 2018, 09:04:42 pm
Yes, of course. Just like the contemporary narrative on any subject. Moving outside of that can be quite difficult, especially as most of us suffer a sort of collective amnesia.

It is still amusing though :)
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: Alan Goldhammer on May 07, 2018, 07:09:51 am
I was always saying that Clinton was the best Republican president ;)
Also ironic is that EPA, OSHA and some other stuff came to pass in the first Nixon Administration.  Go figure!
Title: Re: A Guide to American Political Ironies
Post by: John Camp on May 07, 2018, 06:16:54 pm
The entirety of that list is sort of problematic in that it picks certain bottom-line facts without context in an effort to show something - I'm not sure what but it feels somewhat like an agenda is present.

You think? "Wars under “pro-war” “Republican” Party: 107 Years 53.5%. 12K deaths since 1864." Deaths under Republicans since 1864...the author picked that date because it excludes the 620,000 Americans who died in the Civil War from 1861-65, all under Republican administrations. And, of course, all the deaths in the Indian Wars.