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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: jayz on July 30, 2006, 10:41:01 pm
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i'm torn between going mac or upgrading my PC. I'm looking at getting either a 3.0ghz, 2gb memory, 320 HD system from Dell for $1300cdn or shelling out considerably more for an iMac - the 20 inch 2ghz system with a 250gb HD with 512mb of ram sells for $1899cdn.
Which is a better system for photography.
i have heard that a 2ghz iMac performs better then a 3 ghz PC. is that true?
how much ram is needed with the iMac if it is the better choice, if i'm using CS2 and canon's DPP?
the RAM upgrade for iMac seems a lot more expensive then for a PC. 1-1GB stick is $120 and 2GB is $360 - does that make any sense?? why is a second stick more then double in price on athe iMac?
btw, i have never used a mac b4, will it be hard to learn?
Some other questions regarding the iMac. i noticed the mac only has 3 usb ports, is that enough, given 2 are going to be used by the mouse and keyboard?
is the advertised airport extreme, a built in wireless system? does that mean i can still get wireless at home with this? If i have a PC hooked up to a cable modem, will i be able to use the iMac on wireless?
will i need to purchase any additional software for the iMac? i know i will have to get CS2 and any other photo software, but will i need any other operating system or macafee or explorer or anything like that specifically for the mac?
appreciate advice of more experienced users!
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how much ram is needed with the iMac if it is the better choice, if i'm using CS2 and canon's DPP?
Some other questions regarding the iMac. i noticed the mac only has 3 usb ports, is that enough, given 2 are going to be used by the mouse and keyboard?
is the advertised airport extreme, a built in wireless system? does that mean i can still get wireless at home with this? If i have a PC hooked up to a cable modem, will i be able to use the iMac on wireless?
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I can't speak about speed performance versus the Dell, but I know quite a few people with iMacs that are very happy with them.
My personal opinion is to max the RAM in any machine I buy.
RAM is significantly cheaper if you don't buy it direct from Apple.
Check prices at macsales.com or crucial.com
3 USB ports should be fine. The keyboard/mouse will only take one as the keyboard has a built in USB hub with two USB ports. You plug your mouse in there.
Airport is a built in wireless system and the computer can connect to an existing wireless network.
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Which is a better system for photography.
i have heard that a 2ghz iMac performs better then a 3 ghz PC. is that true?
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btw, i have never used a mac b4, will it be hard to learn?
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will i need to purchase any additional software for the iMac? i know i will have to get CS2 and any other photo software, but will i need any other operating system or macafee or explorer or anything like that specifically for the mac?
appreciate advice of more experienced users!
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Hi jayz!
It's really difficult to speak about one system being faster than the other in terms of Mhz. This only makes any real good sense in heavy calculation programs - like movie rendering and such. Normal use (including Photoshop) is as much affected by the quality of the program and the operating system.
It is gennerally true that a Mac normally seems to perform better on relatively "fewer" Mhz. But this is mostly because it is delivered with a better operating system.
Yes, you will need to buy other photo software, like Photoshop. What you do not need to buy is the operating system, since this is delivered with the computer. You also don't need macafee, since viruses is much less a problem than on Windows systems. Apple has packed the computer for you, ready to use. That - along with higher quality - is what you pay for.
No, it is certainly not difficult to learn to use a Mac. It is a bit different from a Windows system, but you'll quickly get a hang of it (and never return). I read few, if any, post from people that get tired with a Mac and return to Windows.
If you like to get a glimpse of how it works, look at the tutorials at [a href=\"http://screencastsonline.com/sco/]ScreenCastsOnline[/url]. Don McAllister has made some tutorials describing a Mac that will make the transition easy for you. Look at the full show list (http://screencastsonline.com/sco/info/scoarchive.html) and search for the "OSX Basics" shows.
Please write again if you need other questions answered.
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i'm torn between going mac or upgrading my PC. I'm looking at getting either a 3.0ghz, 2gb memory, 320 HD system from Dell for $1300cdn or shelling out considerably more for an iMac - the 20 inch 2ghz system with a 250gb HD with 512mb of ram sells for $1899cdn.
Which is a better system for photography.
i have heard that a 2ghz iMac performs better then a 3 ghz PC. is that true?
how much ram is needed with the iMac if it is the better choice, if i'm using CS2 and canon's DPP?
the RAM upgrade for iMac seems a lot more expensive then for a PC. 1-1GB stick is $120 and 2GB is $360 - does that make any sense?? why is a second stick more then double in price on athe iMac?
btw, i have never used a mac b4, will it be hard to learn?
Some other questions regarding the iMac. i noticed the mac only has 3 usb ports, is that enough, given 2 are going to be used by the mouse and keyboard?
is the advertised airport extreme, a built in wireless system? does that mean i can still get wireless at home with this? If i have a PC hooked up to a cable modem, will i be able to use the iMac on wireless?
will i need to purchase any additional software for the iMac? i know i will have to get CS2 and any other photo software, but will i need any other operating system or macafee or explorer or anything like that specifically for the mac?
appreciate advice of more experienced users!
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Remember that new Intel iMacs (and MacBook & MacBook Pro) can boot in Windows with [a href=\"http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/]Apple's Boot Camp[/url] (free) or run Windows along your Mac OS with Parallels Desktop (http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/) ($79).
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A gig stick of ram for the new iMac is only $99 here:
http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=9 (http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=9)
You'll need two.
I popped in 2 gigs in my Intel 20" iMac and recommend you do the same. It's very easy to do yourself, don't buy the RAM from Apple (they charge way too much).
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Hi Jay,
I submit that when you get a bare PC for $1300cdn you are only STARTING to spend...: you will still have to kit it out with an OS, graphics card, all kinds of software, and RAM, before you can actually use it a little bit.
Add that to the cost.
And PC's age really quickly: you'll have to get a new one within 2 years.
Add that to the cost too!
An iMac, however, may set you back $1899, BUT that is inclusive of the OS, the graphics card, and a whole suite of excellent software. Put it on your desktop, plug it in, and away you go! It works !
That iMac will serve you well for 3/4 years, at least!
You'll only need to add RAM and, if you need them, specialist applications, like Photoshop.
However, iMacs can run Windows just as easily as MacOSX (or Linux for that matter). So you can simply keep using your Windows version of Photoshop. Another 500 bucks saved.
Which is a better system for photography.
Look at pro photographers and what systems they use: 90% Macs!
how much ram is needed with the iMac if it is the better choice, if i'm using CS2 and canon's DPP?
For non-pro use 1.5GB is probably more than enough.
the RAM upgrade for iMac seems a lot more expensive then for a PC. 1-1GB stick is $120 and 2GB is $360 - does that make any sense?? why is a second stick more then double in price on athe iMac?
Get third-party RAM. Much cheaper.
btw, i have never used a mac b4, will it be hard to learn?
Quite the contrary: within an hour you will chide yourself for not moving to the Mac years ago...
Some other questions regarding the iMac. i noticed the mac only has 3 usb ports, is that enough, given 2 are going to be used by the mouse and keyboard?
That's more than enough: only the keyboard needs one. And the keyboard itself has 2 more USB ports. For a mouse, if you need it. Because Apple is launching a wireless bluetooth mouse in a couple weeks.
is the advertised airport extreme, a built in wireless system?
Yes.
does that mean i can still get wireless at home with this?
Yes.
If i have a PC hooked up to a cable modem, will i be able to use the iMac on wireless?
Yes.
will i need to purchase any additional software for the iMac?
No, you don't need to. It's got everything in the box.
i know i will have to get CS2
No, you don't. Your current CS2/PS runs on XP. iMacs run XP.
[/quote]and any other photo software,[/quote]
There is a lot of excellent free software for the Mac available on the WWW.
([a href=\"http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php?mode=basic&action=search&str=photo&plt%5B%5D=macosx&x=0&y=0]Versiontracker[/url] (<– click!) alone has a couple hundred already).
but will i need any other operating system
You'll need XP if you want to run your current CS2/PS. But you've got that, don't you?
or macafee
No, you can keep your money in your pocket (and sleep a lot easier than today...): there are no viruses, Trojans or Worms for Macs!
Sophos, who make a living selling you antivirus software, recently admitted it clearly: Sophos Security Threat Management Report Update July 2006 (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=70B9B387441383AE)
or explorer or anything like that specifically for the mac?
No. Explorer for the Mac is in the bundle, but you don't want to use that ! And you don't have to either: Safari is excellent (IE can't hold a candle to it), and there are 6 or 7 just as excellent alternatives. All free!
appreciate advice of more experienced users!
Have fun!
RS
(Mac user since 1985)
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I've been a Windows user for years... but have now convinced myself to buy a Mac in September. I went to a Mac store (West World Computers in Edmonton) and the sales rep was wonderful in showing me many of the things about a Mac that would make my life easier. I WAS TOTALLY CONVINCED.
If there is any $$ savings in a Windows PC vs. a Mac they will be chewed up quickly with the savings the Mac will give you in pure efficiency. Just one example: Did you know there is no Uninstall programs on a Mac? I didn't... drag the application to the trashcan and voila... you're done.
After my review I'm buying a Mac. I still work in the corporate world so I'll still have a couple of PC's around for other tasks but I'll probably just use Remote Desktop to them to get my other work done.
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You'll be fine either way. Truth is these days there's not much difference for photo applications -- the applications you mention work in both really well. As can be seen from the thread, Apple users seem very loyal, and you have to decide what that counts for and whether that appeals to you.
All the more so as both platforms are now using the same hardware, so it's really down to a similar choice as you would make deciding which RAW software suits you best or -- as Apple has made easy to do in part by switching over to intel -- deciding you want them all. With the exception of Leaf Capture which is still only made for the MAC at the moment, and would be the deciding factor if you're using a Leaf MF back.
Some think that the Apple interface/gestalt is cooler. Again the question is whether this matters to you, and if so, whether you agree. Some think that XP is more customizable and can be more easily minimalized (easier to get rid of noisy icons, selection bars, bells and whistles, etc) but less cool if you like an off-the-moment look.
Also it's true that the Apple OS is more integrated and takes less tweaking than XP, but getting past that is not really that big a deal if you know your way around a computer a bit. If you don't -- or don't want to keep on having to -- that can make a difference. The other thing to consider is that Vista is on its way, and if like past launches, will cause problems for the first couple of years -- the Apple OS is stable for the moment, and it's taken a couple of generations.
On memory, the more the better for both and both cost about the same (assuming you don't need the security of Apple branded memory). Really, if you have memory and a good well calibrated screen (Apple screens are that, but there are plenty of others for both the MAC and PC) you'll be set.
As to other software, depends what you have and what you need. Likely you will end up buying the Word/WP type of software regardless, even though Apple free software is better.
So bottom line, does Apple make you feel cool and does the OS give you a bit of a smile? If so, then what is that worth to you and do you want to spend it?
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You'll be fine either way.
I would agree you will be fine either way...however consider that in the PC market, Intel and AMD are going at each other guns blazing. The new Dual Core releases from Intel are smoking everything at prices that are falling rapidly. While Apple is now running Intel CPUs, it will likely be sometime before you see the benefit of these processors on that platform.
Personally Vista will be staying on a lot of shelves based on initial reports. XP Pro is both extremely stable and requires much less hardware than Vista...For the next 18 to 24 months, I am recommending my corporate customers stay with XP and put a few dollars in hardware.
A good ASUS motherboard, a Dual core processor, and 2 to 4 GB memory and you have the core of a great PC for not very much money. Add a couple of inexpensive SATA drives and a decent but not obscene video card...and away you go. Personally I run 2 - 160GB SATA 3.0 in a RAID 0 config (total of 300 GB online) and run nightly backups to another internal 300GB single drive. Total drive cost is less than $250 and the RAID 0 config is lightning fast.
Macs are nice...but you can build a faster system for less money...without having to be a rocket scientist.
Not trying to start a Mac vs PC thing...just trying to be helpful and pointing out a couple of other options...
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The new Dual Core releases from Intel are smoking everything at prices that are falling rapidly. While Apple is now running Intel CPUs, it will likely be sometime before you see the benefit of these processors on that platform.
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Is August anytime soon?
[a href=\"http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0605intelxserves.html]http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0605intelxserves.html[/url]
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Looks like you missed quite a bit of the party, caveman...
4 out of 5 Apple computers have Intel Core processors;
3 of those have Intel Core Duo processors.
I'll bet the Intel Core Duo processors will be uprated to Intel Core Duo 2, before the end of August. And that the PowerMac will get even two of those – yes, that's four processors in one box!
And when Apple announces new models and/or specs, they are usually available to the market within 1 or 2 weeks.
[a href=\"http://www.apple.com/hardware/]Check the Apple hardware yourself here.[/url]
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I'd like to thank everyone for the advise. sounds like apple is the way to go.
just have one other question. if i want to use CS2 for windows (or even excel or word for that matter). do i need to install anything else on the apple to make the windows versions useable?
actually, one other question as well. sounds like apple will be releasing something in the next few weeks. does anyone know if any upgrades are expected that will still be in the same price range as the 20" iMac, that would make it worth my while to suffer a few more weeks?
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I'd like to thank everyone for the advise. sounds like apple is the way to go.
just have one other question. if i want to use CS2 for windows (or even excel or word for that matter). do i need to install anything else on the apple to make the windows versions useable?
actually, one other question as well. sounds like apple will be releasing something in the next few weeks. does anyone know if any upgrades are expected that will still be in the same price range as the 20" iMac, that would make it worth my while to suffer a few more weeks?
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You will have to install either Parallels Desktop ($79) or Apple's Boot Camp (free). With Boot Camp you get a dual boot computer. With Paralles, you'll be able to run Windows software alongside Mac OS X. I have very little experience with Photoshop and these two pieces of software. You can read macWolrd's review of Parallels [a href=\"http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/reviews/parallels/index.php]here[/url].
As for new hardware, you should wait WWDC (August 7-11) and see what's announced during the conference.
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Looks like you missed quite a bit of the party, caveman...
4 out of 5 Apple computers have Intel Core processors;
3 of those have Intel Core Duo processors.
I'll bet the Intel Core Duo processors will be uprated to Intel Core Duo 2, before the end of August. And that the PowerMac will get even two of those – yes, that's four processors in one box!
And when Apple announces new models and/or specs, they are usually available to the market within 1 or 2 weeks.
Check the Apple hardware yourself here. (http://www.apple.com/hardware/)
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I need to clarify...sorry...I was specifically addressing the Core Duo 2 processors...which are the ones that are surpassing the AMD offerings...the regular Core Duo were not in the same ballpark as the AMD X2 offerings...but the CD2 leapfrogs it.
If Apple gets these CD2 machines to market this month, it would be extremely impressive. I did not see mention on the Apple site of any CD2 machines...but I may not be looking in the right place. I do see the "rumor" sites indicate they are coming shortly...
Regardless, I would wait for a CD2 machine of either persuasion...
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[...] I did not see mention on the Apple site of any CD2 machines... but I may not be looking in the right place. I do see the "rumor" sites indicate they are coming shortly... [...]
On Apple's site you'll find the current line-up of offerings. 80% of that stuff is in the Apple Store as we speak, waiting for you to walk away with.
Apple never, ever pre-announces new models and/or specs!
Regardless, I would wait for a CD2 machine of either persuasion...
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If you wait for a Mac with CD2 you'll get 3 lightning fast machines for the price of one: an OSX Mac, a Windows box, and a Linux box! All-in-one!
I'm gettin' two of those ! Yummy!
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> if i want to use CS2 for windows
We need to hound Adobe to get out of the dark ages and switch to a cross-platform license like everyone else in the world. At the very least they should allow you to convert your license.
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You will have to install either Parallels Desktop ($79) or Apple's Boot Camp (free). With Boot Camp you get a dual boot computer. With Paralles, you'll be able to run Windows software alongside Mac OS X. I have very little experience with Photoshop and these two pieces of software. You can read macWolrd's review of Parallels here (http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/reviews/parallels/index.php).
As for new hardware, you should wait WWDC (August 7-11) and see what's announced during the conference.
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thanks for the information. i'll wait to see what is going to be announced. thought of one other question based on the advice to expand RAM with non-apple memory. do you generally have to install the memory yourself?? Does this affect the warrenty with apple at all?
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thanks for the information. i'll wait to see what is going to be announced. thought of one other question based on the advice to expand RAM with non-apple memory. do you generally have to install the memory yourself?? Does this affect the warrenty with apple at all?
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No, it doesn't void your warranty provided you don't damage anything during installation. Apple has a page with the instructions [a href=\"http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303084]here[/url]. Installation is easy, just use common sense!
The only reason to buy Apple's outrageously expensive RAM is if you purchase AppleCare (extended warranty to 3 years) and want to include additional RAM in the plan. I don't think it's worth it.
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New Woodcrest quad Mac Pro's have been available for a few days already.
http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjec...3&family=MacPro (http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom?qprm=78313&family=MacPro)
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Consumer-grade computers (of any flavour) are commodity items these days, and when you couple that with the myth that Apple machines are "easier/more stable/etc" (which stopped being true some time ago, based on my comparisons with friends who have Macs), there really is not much difference.
Buy the best you can afford. The critical software (Adobe, Nikon, etc.) for photographic work is virtually identical, so who cares?
My 2 cents worth.
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i was also considering an iMac over a PC. Made the mistake of buying a dell (similar to what you are considering). the card readers didn't work, and despite the fact that i told the dell support staff that it didn't appear that the card drive was installed properly (was shaking, not in place firmly), he had me rebooting around 5 times, and trying other things b4 getting me to open the casing and finally after 1 1/2 hours said that it looks like there may be a loose screw!!!
he recommended that i wait for Dell to send a replacement screw which i could replace the "faulty" screw with.
i sent the system back and am looking to get an iMac as well. However, bcoz of a trip i'm planning through the southwest, i will probably need a laptop more immediately. I wanted to get some advice on an Apple laptop i could get (iBook??), that could run photoshop, do raw file processing in the field and.....and this is the clincher be relativley affordable (i'm hoping to only spend around $1200-$1500).
Is there a mac laptop that would meet my needs? How much Ram is needed, and how large a HD would be recommended? (how much free space would there be after the operating system and other software requirements???
once i do get an iMac, will it be seamless switching back and forth between the Laptop and iMac (same operating system on both?)
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A Mac RAW converter running Native under Intel is pretty decent speed wise so a new MacBook Pro would do the trick (max it out in RAW: 2 Gigs). Lightroom is Natve where as ACR isn't.
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...Is there a mac laptop that would meet my needs? How much Ram is needed, and how large a HD would be recommended? (how much free space would there be after the operating system and other software requirements???...
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As Digitaldog said a [a href=\"http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/]MacBook Pro[/url] or even the cheaper MacBook (http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html) will do fine as long as you have enough RAM.
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i was also considering an iMac over a PC. Made the mistake of buying a dell (similar to what you are considering). the card readers didn't work, and despite the fact that i told the dell support staff that it didn't appear that the card drive was installed properly (was shaking, not in place firmly), he had me rebooting around 5 times, and trying other things b4 getting me to open the casing and finally after 1 1/2 hours said that it looks like there may be a loose screw!!!
he recommended that i wait for Dell to send a replacement screw which i could replace the "faulty" screw with.
You get what you pay for.
i sent the system back and am looking to get an iMac as well. However, bcoz of a trip i'm planning through the southwest, i will probably need a laptop more immediately. I wanted to get some advice on an Apple laptop i could get (iBook??), that could run photoshop, do raw file processing in the field and.....and this is the clincher be relativley affordable (i'm hoping to only spend around $1200-$1500).
Dream on.
Is there a mac laptop that would meet my needs?
Of course (except at your desired price point!).
How much Ram is needed,
1GB is enough, but you'll enjoy the elbow room of 2GB.
and how large a HD would be recommended? (how much free space would there be after the operating system and other software requirements???
What are your "other software requirements"???
once i do get an iMac, will it be seamless switching back and forth between the Laptop and iMac (same operating system on both?)
What do you think?
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Current MacBooks and MacBook Pro's, with their Intel Core Duo processors, are the fastest laptops on the planet. Apparently, that is not enough for Apple: rumour has it that Apple will be shipping them as off September with Merom processors, the mobile variant of the Intel Core 2 processor: considerably faster still, as well as much easier on the batteries.
So, if you can wait till then, I suggest you do.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i319/RokcetScientist/MBP2.jpg)
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Current MacBooks and MacBook Pro's, with their Intel Core Duo processors, are the fastest laptops on the planet. Apparently, that is not enough for Apple: rumour has it that Apple will be shipping them as off September with Merom processors, the mobile variant of the Intel Core 2 processor: considerably faster still, as well as much easier on the batteries.
So, if you can wait till then, I suggest you do.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i319/RokcetScientist/MBP2.jpg)
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looks like i will have to spend a ot more then i hoped - i guess i could do that if i hold off on the iMac purchase.
Do you know when in September the new macbooks with the Merom processors are expected to be released. I'm going to be going on a trip to the southewest on sept 12, so i would like to have a computer by then. Will the new processors be in the same price range?
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looks like i will have to spend a ot more then i hoped - i guess i could do that if i hold off on the iMac purchase.
Look on the bright side: you'll get what you pay for!
Do you know when in September the new macbooks with the Merom processors are expected to be released.
No. Nobody does. Apple never pre-announces new products.
I'm going to be going on a trip to the southewest on sept 12, so i would like to have a computer by then.
I'm guessing they'll be launched second half of September, Khurram. So I suggest you rent or borrow one for the time being, if you really need one.
However, if you're flying: with the new cabin rules you'll have to check your laptop and camera gear – unlocked!, and have them stuffed in the hold!
Tip: get very good insurance!!!
Will the new processors be in the same price range?
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I expect so.
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...looks like i will have to spend a ot more then i hoped - i guess i could do that if i hold off on the iMac purchase....
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Do you really need an iMac and a MacBook (Std or Pro)? You can easily hook up an additional monitor to any version of the MacBook and larger USB or FW external hard drives are also easily connected.
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Do you really need an iMac and a MacBook (Std or Pro)? You can easily hook up an additional monitor to any version of the MacBook and larger USB or FW external hard drives are also easily connected.
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francois,
If I only purchase the Mac Book Pro, will it be sufficient to use for scanning As well (I wanted to pick up the Epson V700 scanner to scan the thousands of Velvia slides i have from before going digital). I also thought that photoshop would run better with the iMac then the Mac BOok Pro. I'm basically making this assumption best on my experiences with PC's vs. the Dell & IBM laptops i have experience with.
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MacBooks Pro and iMacs have essentially the same CPU and graphic power. The only difference that I can see is hard drive performances/capacities, but both machines support external FireWire drives.
You can read some benchmarks here (http://www.barefeats.com/pbcd.html), notice that iMacs & MacBooks Pro scores are really close.
I'd say that either machine will be fine to scan your Velvia slides. I did the same with an old iMac G3 and a Nikon CoolScan a few years ago. If I had to choose just one computer (iMac or MacBook Pro) it would be the MacBook Pro.
As for MacBooks Pro updates coming in September, this is not official and you can read the source of this speculation here (http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/macbook_pro_updates_in_september/).
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MacBooks Pro and iMacs have essentially the same CPU and graphic power. The only difference that I can see is hard drive performances/capacities, but both machines support external FireWire drives.
You can read some benchmarks here (http://www.barefeats.com/pbcd.html), notice that iMacs & MacBooks Pro scores are really close.
I'd say that either machine will be fine to scan your Velvia slides. I did the same with an old iMac G3 and a Nikon CoolScan a few years ago. If I had to choose just one computer (iMac or MacBook Pro) it would be the MacBook Pro.
As for MacBooks Pro updates coming in September, this is not official and you can read the source of this speculation here (http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/macbook_pro_updates_in_september/).
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Thanks Francois for the benchmark link. Is it advisable to use another monitor for doing editing with P/S with the macbook?? If so, is there reasonably priced apple monitor that you would suggest?? I know with both my IBM and Dell laptops it is difficult to gauge color and contrast and how hard it is to gauge what viewing angle should br used.
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Thanks Francois for the benchmark link. Is it advisable to use another monitor for doing editing with P/S with the macbook?? If so, is there reasonably priced apple monitor that you would suggest?? I know with both my IBM and Dell laptops it is difficult to gauge color and contrast and how hard it is to gauge what viewing angle should br used.
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Apple monitors are expensive! My feeling is that 15" or 17" MacBook Pro monitor is reasonably good and you could start using it and decide later if you need an additional monitor or not. You don't need to purchase an Apple monitor as MacBooks Pro are equipped with DVI connectors ([a href=\"http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html]tech specs[/url]) so your choice is not restricted to Apple's offerings.
Although I've not made extensive tests, I've found iMacs and MacBooks Pro monitors to be equivalent in quality. Others with more experience and owning both types of computers (iMacs Intel & MacBook Pro) may give their input?
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I have been a PC user for years, but when the iMac came out I bought one. I can't say the particular model I have is that fast, however the new Intel machines are much faster.
The thing to remember over everything is that Mac's are virus-free and just work. PC's need constant care if your not wanting to have problems.
I have a new dual-core Mesh PC and I'm sure this will be the last PC we'll ever use. I'm waiting for the new Mac Pro to be out a while and then I'm getting one.
Everything just seems better on a Mac :-)
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I have been a PC user for years, but when the iMac came out I bought one. I can't say the particular model I have is that fast, however the new Intel machines are much faster.
The thing to remember over everything is that Mac's are virus-free and just work. PC's need constant care if your not wanting to have problems.
I have a new dual-core Mesh PC and I'm sure this will be the last PC we'll ever use. I'm waiting for the new Mac Pro to be out a while and then I'm getting one.
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Don't you just wish you'd switched years ago?
Macs are fun (compared to PC's)!
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I work in education and we just replaced two formerly PC labs in my area (Dell towers) with the Intel iMac (20", 2GHz, 2 gigs RAM). A big selling point was still being able to run Windows in those labs for those who needed it. We chose to go with the Parallels option, and it works great.
In my office I use one of these Intel iMacs (mainly to run Windows-only plug-ins and imaging apps I couldn't otherwise), along with a G5 iMac (which I will probably replace with the Intel soon).
I haven't loaded Photoshop on the Intel in my office yet, so can't offer my opinion of performance comparisons.
The platform battle is over--you can have both in one machine! And Linux if you desire. Nicer hardware too ;-).
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The platform battle is over--you can have both in one machine!
Sure, as long as that machine is an Apple, of course.
And Linux if you desire.
And Solaris, and Unix, and a handful of Windoze flavors.
And all at the same time if desired!
Imagine the impact of dual and quad core processors on that, given a half dozen Gigs of RAM!
Nicer hardware too ;-).
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No lo contendere.