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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape Photography Locations => Topic started by: greyscale on June 23, 2016, 02:15:19 pm

Title: National park deface
Post by: greyscale on June 23, 2016, 02:15:19 pm
Not sure If this is the correct forum to post this in as the Coffee Corner has been removed. The article is on MSN as well as Fox news.

http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAhuSVg?ocid=segrey

IMHO, these two women got a slap on the wrist as so called punishment from the judge. Where I sitting on the bench in this matter, I would have banned them for life from any US park a handed them a $10K fine.

greyscale
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 23, 2016, 02:26:46 pm
Most offences have statutory maximum penalties. Have you checked what they are?

Jeremy
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: greyscale on June 23, 2016, 02:39:29 pm
Found this link:

ttps://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361
 and this
ttps://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361-and-forests The judge was, again IMHO, much too easy on these two idiots.

greyscale
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 23, 2016, 04:37:20 pm
Sure: and there's a death sentence for murder. Is "1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361" relevant? The article to which you posted a link doesn't indicate what the charge was, merely that there was a guilty plea to "seven misdemeanors". A Judge can't sentence for an offence of which the defendant hasn't been convicted.

Jeremy
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 23, 2016, 05:06:34 pm
If there were any real justice in this situation, she would be required to pay every cent of the costs of cleanup and restoration, be banned from all national parks for life, and required to do 1000 hours of community service.
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: dwswager on June 24, 2016, 08:30:22 am
http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAhuSVg?ocid=segrey

IMHO, these two women got a slap on the wrist as so called punishment from the judge. Where I sitting on the bench in this matter, I would have banned them for life from any US park a handed them a $10K fine.

SMH!   A Painting spree at 7 national parks.  Ok, so she either enjoys the national parks which make me SMH at the stupidity or she specifically targeted the national park knowing her painting would destroy the esthetic beauty of the parks.  Some people are just A$$hats!

Proper punishment.  Twelve hours per day in public stocks at the entrance to a National Park so the tourists can gawk.
(http://www.history.org/Media/slideshows/postcard_slideshow/images/3.jpg)
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: CoyoteButtes on June 24, 2016, 04:17:14 pm
May fire ants nest in her shorts.
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: pluton on June 27, 2016, 01:17:53 pm
May fire ants nest in her shorts.
Fine, park ban, and community service for the vandalism;  she should be imprisoned for her "art work".
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: Otto Phocus on June 27, 2016, 01:55:51 pm
Unfortunately, this type of vandalism happens far too often and they have no idea who did it.

Some people kids, huh?  (shaking head ruefully)
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: tim wolcott on June 28, 2016, 01:46:54 am
This is problem they cry in front of these loser called liberal judges and they get off lightly.  They made Fatali pay for his offenses, hopefuly she will also.  They need to pass a law Lifetime ban. 

The laws need to be so harsh no one would dare do them.  We have gotten soft, way to soft on crime. 
Title: Re: National park deface
Post by: Otto Phocus on June 28, 2016, 06:01:08 am
We have gotten soft, way to soft on crime.

Interesting opinion considering the overcrowding of our prison system and the percentage of our population that have been incarcerated. I would opine that being soft on crime is not a problem in the US.

What we have a problem with is focusing on being "hard" on the important crimes.... the major problem being who gets to decide what is important?   ;)