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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: davisstew on June 25, 2015, 02:56:18 pm
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Hi everyone,
I have been having issues with my 7900 print head. Yesterday I replaced the head with a used one from a 9900 as well as replaced the selector unit and wiper (both new parts). I followed the video Eric made on myx900.com. Was pretty simple.. Put it all back together and started in service mode. Everything started just fine and appeared ready. I wanted to run an initial ink fill to put ink in the dampers and through the head as well as pump out any air bubbles that may have formed. But I had 3 low ink carts (<10%). So I went to replace them and that’s when things went south..
I loaded the new ink carts and closed the doors then got the message “INK CARTRIDGE ERROR REPLACE CARTRIDGE” with red blinking x’s on all colors. I tried putting the old carts back in, restarting it and keep getting the same message. I then tried running the initial ink fill (ignoring the error message) and got an error code 3000. This appears to be because the capping station did not pull back and a the head went to move it caught it (causing an increase in voltage to the motor) and stopping it. I then manually released the head and tied the ink fill again and as well as other functions and keep getting random error codes like 150c, 1439, 1138, and 1489. I checked all the connections that I had messed with when replacing the head (though I have not removed the selector unit and checked the connections going directly into the head itself). I have also reset the counters and changed the Head ID.
Does anyone have any idea? Everything appeared to be working correctly until I tried replacing the ink carts. ??? ???
Thanks
Davis
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Air leaks somewhere?
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Hi, I am having the same problem, except for I didn't replace capping station. If you find a solution, please update the post.
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I've had a similar issue after replacing the head (but without the unit hitting the capping station.)
My memory is a little fuzzy but try this, it's free, it's fun, and there is even a remote chance it might work :o:
Either:
- printer on
- ink bay doors open
- eject cartridge 1
- doors closed
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- reinsert cartridge 1
- doors close
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- eject cartridge 2
- etc
Or:
- printer on
- ink bay doors open
- eject cartridge 1
- doors closed
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- reinsert cartridge 1
- eject cartridge 2
- etc
Can't remember which.
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I haven't really messed around with it in a couple months (since I posted last). Was going to try and play around with it a little this weekend. Thanks cybis, I will give that a shot and report back. Was also going to check ink lines and make sure there were no air leaks.
If this doesnt work, im out of ideas. It anyone has any other suggestions ill take anything at this point. just want to get it working!
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I have tried your suggestion, Cybis, and it does not solve my problem. do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks
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There is a sequence with the printer off. I'm not sure this is the right order but try removing the cartridges, turn the printer off and with it off replace the cartridges and then start it up.
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I had the same experience after a head replacement. Talk about rubbing salt in the wound. I called Epson and they replaced the cartridge at no charge which was nice. Still the most expensive cartridge I've ever owned.
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Precisely why I bought an HP Z5200. Epson is Evil.
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I have tried taking the cartridges out, powering off the printer, putting the cartridges in and it didn't help.
If I take any cartridges out it will tell me which ones are missing. but if i put them all in, it will say all are missing. :(
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Well, i have the same problem after cleaning the printer head the printer head was removed from printer. all ink cartridge show X on it. recheck all ribbon cables, yellow & white connector are connected. tried to initiated the refill ink and stop could not do it. I pulled all cartridge from the bay clean contacts, my ink was at 50% at the moment. I will be resetting the chip on the cartridge to see what happens. From i was told some type of board is not reading the ink level from the CHIP. I also like to know if anybody has tried to reset all codes from display. I have have codes from previous owner. Well i like to start fresh to monitor what is causing this ERROR. please advise.
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I've had a similar issue after replacing the head (but without the unit hitting the capping station.)
My memory is a little fuzzy but try this, it's free, it's fun, and there is even a remote chance it might work :o:
Either:
- printer on
- ink bay doors open
- eject cartridge 1
- doors closed
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- reinsert cartridge 1
- doors close
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- eject cartridge 2
- etc
Or:
- printer on
- ink bay doors open
- eject cartridge 1
- doors closed
- observe cartridge status
- doors open
- reinsert cartridge 1
- eject cartridge 2
- etc
Can't remember which.
I follow these step:
when i remove #1 all ink levels come back on the screen
so I pulled #2 had the same results. then I tried #11 and had the same results.
So base on that info provided does anybody know what could be wrong.
Please advise. thanks...
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This is the exact same situation I had. Did you *carefully* tried both sets of instructions for all eleven inks sequentially from 1 to 11? I remember that when I finally reinserted the 11th ink all cartridges were back to normal.
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Thank you Cybis for the response. I did tried both ways and all ink cartridge had on X on it. I do keep searching the web for other answers have not found any yet. I also went to the local Camera Shop and ask them about the ink problem, they said they use to be a repair center, and Epson drop them because they want to charge the customer up front $275.00 dollars for the first hour and they will pick a choose the repair center. I'm in San Antonio Texas and there is no repairs center in Texas. the only one they had recommended by Epson was in Dallas. son I call them and said NO they don't want to mes with that BRAND. I wonder WHY? Does this mean Epson want to pay the repair center warranty labor rate. (Sound like the car Dealers ) Mechanics make less money on warranty work. If you have any suggestion please let me know. thanks
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Have you tried replacing the three cartridges that are causing problems? If you know anyone in the area with an X900 printer, I'd ask to borrow carts and try them out. I had a similar problem occur a few years back with my 9900. I think the orange cartridge was faulty and the yellow & #11 somehow got thrown off. I recall orange and one of the light blacks (LK or LLK) are paired up for cleaning/declogging. Coincidentally, my "Ink Cartridge Error" problem started about a month after Decision One replaced the left side cartridge bay. At first, I could get the error message to go away by reseating the cartridges. Eventually that procedure failed to work.
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Thank you Bob, see images please this is what i did. removed all cart, dated from 2015 - 2016 expiration. Installed used cart dated 2011-2012 expiration. as you can see top right #5 MATE BLACK has on X, but this is a brand new CART, from Epson , reinstalled #5 , then I removed #1 so now #5 Mate black was active( no X) then I removed #11 now LM all were active and #11 had on X. summary no matter witch cart i remove become with on X and all are active. I hate to but new Cart. not knowing if im going to the right direction.
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I still have the same problem. when all inks are in it will show all Xs and if i remove any of them, the rest will be OK but only the removed one will have a X.
If you have any information how I could fix this, please throw it on here. I have tried the instructions posted with removing one at a time, with no luck. If someone here has had luck with that, it would be nice hearing detailed info on that too.
Thanks
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still need help with this
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Anyone ever figure this out? I had given up and my 7900 has been sitting in the corner taking up space. :( Would like to try working on it one more time if anyone has any new suggestions...
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I strongly believe the left ink bay 0n the X900 series has a design flaw. ... I had a similar problem as mentioned above. I'd get X's clear across the board. Then if I'd remove the orange cart, the Xs disappeared and the ink levels displayed properly and the missing cart showed up X. I'd then put the orange cart back in and pull out the yellow. Same thing--the ink levels showed and the yellow cart showed up as X. I bit the bullet and contacted Decision One (it took 2 visits; they ended up replacing the left-side cartridge bay). Four months later, the orange nozzle developed a clog that wouldn't clear. After several "pair cleanings" both the orange and the LK (or maybe it was the LLK) clogged up. I watched Eric's video (sent him a donation) and decided I'd had it with the X900 series. I sold the machine on eBay and replaced it with a 7890--a fine printer.
Orange and green ink is hardly, if at all, used for photo printing. Those colors are there for graphic and industrial designers to match PMS colors. I tried to convince a buddy of mine to purchase a 7890 instead of the 7900. He wouldn't budge. Since they were around the same price, he figured he was getting a 'good deal' on the 7900. I warned him that that was a mistake. After nine months, his 7900 stopped working due to super clogs. Now the machine sits in his office just taking up space. Woe is he.
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When inserting all 11 ink cartridges on our EPSON 7900, I get "Ink Cartridge Error Replace Cartridge" message with X on all cartridges. If any cartridge is removed, leaving 10 cartridges inserted, the printer will recognize all 10 cartridges including ink levels and the removed cartridge will show X as missing cartridge. This result is the same removing any single one of the 11 cartridges and leaving any 10 inserted.
Additional info
We have used both EPSON original and aftermarket cartridges.
We replaced:
Sub Board Assembly
Ink System Unit
Main Board
Pressurizing Unit
Any idea or comment is welcomed and appreciated, we have run out of ideas. Thank you so much!
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When inserting all 11 ink cartridges on our EPSON 7900, I get "Ink Cartridge Error Replace Cartridge" message with X on all cartridges. If any cartridge is removed, leaving 10 cartridges inserted, the printer will recognize all 10 cartridges including ink levels and the removed cartridge will show X as missing cartridge. This result is the same removing any single one of the 11 cartridges and leaving any 10 inserted.
Additional info
We have used both EPSON original and aftermarket cartridges.
We replaced:
Sub Board Assembly
Ink System Unit
Main Board
Pressurizing Unit
Any idea or comment is welcomed and appreciated, we have run out of ideas. Thank you so much!
This is a very interesting and perplexing issue, you have replaced most parts except the print head, could you be so kind to reply to the following questions:
- Did you remove the print head and re-install at any point?
- When you replaced the mainboard did you also use the old mainboard firmware backup settings (file) to initialize the new mainboard?
- Did you remove or replace either the CSIC left or right ink holder bays and or ink holder sub-board assemblies?
Brian.
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Hello Brian,
Thank you for your response, had taken a break from working on this printer but just got around to trying to fix it this past weekend. We did replace ink head at one point for troubleshooting purposes with no luck, it still responds the same. I spoke to a EPSON support yesterday and they suggested calling a technician. I mentioned to EPSON support the problem started right after updating the firmware. Before scheduling with a tech, I replaced the main board with a board from an 7890, even though wrong printer model, it does recognize the cartridges, which leads me to believe the firmware update is causing the problem. I am hoping there is some method to restore the original firmware but the printer will not go into READY mode so the PC can connect with service program. Any insights or suggestions would be appreciated.
BTW, we have two 7900 showing the same problem, which we both updated firmware the same day.
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Thank you Cybis for the response. I did tried both ways and all ink cartridge had on X on it. I do keep searching the web for other answers have not found any yet. I also went to the local Camera Shop and ask them about the ink problem, they said they use to be a repair center, and Epson drop them because they want to charge the customer up front $275.00 dollars for the first hour and they will pick a choose the repair center. I'm in San Antonio Texas and there is no repairs center in Texas. the only one they had recommended by Epson was in Dallas. son I call them and said NO they don't want to mes with that BRAND. I wonder WHY? Does this mean Epson want to pay the repair center warranty labor rate. (Sound like the car Dealers ) Mechanics make less money on warranty work. If you have any suggestion please let me know. thanks
Yikes! Service is up to $275 an hour for a tech that maybe makes $45 an hour?? What ever happened to businesses charging three time the Labor rate of the tech? That would be $135 an hour, still high.
I am guessing one hour for road time and one hour minimum labor which comes close to the $275. They gotcha. You either pay through the nose or go through the process of do it yourself like the op.
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I have a 9890 and a 7890. I use refillable carts from inkjet mall that have their own reprogrammable chips.
What happens with this printer series is - if two of the ink cart chips are bad or not being read correctly the whole side will show X’s.
If one is bad it just shows one bad.
If it were me I’d either replace the two inks that are problematic, IF you know which ones they are. You could use the smallest carts available, Or I’d buy one of the inexpensive reprogramable chips from inkjet mall and replace your questionable Epson chips with them. It sounds like either the chips are bad or they are not making proper contact. Try putting some paper spacers under the carts and pulling them toward the left to check that.