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Copying stand:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/438353-REG/Dot_Line_RS_CS920_RS_CS920_Copy_Stand.html

Macro lens:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-Macro-Lens-FD-50mm-f-3-5-with-filter-and-caps-/131492375897?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9d8e6d59  Say for $75

And an EOS to FD http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10995262&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi

And my iPhone/iPad as a diffuse light source?

That's about $275...Or buy a better macro?  I don't mind saving though if something like this won't be as good as the 5000.  I'd appreciate any advice.

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Chris
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 04:51:17 pm »

You may be interested in my article on scanning negatives with a camera set-up posted on this website: https://luminous-landscape.com/scannerless-digital-capture-and-processing-of-negative-film-photographs/

A Nikon 5000 is hard to beat - for digitizing with a camera, much depends on the quality of the macro lens and the sensor quality (what camera?). Much also depends on how well the film plane is aligned with the media plane, and media flatness. Depth of field is extremely narrow so there is precious little play.
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 08:41:41 pm »

That's one hell of a pdf Mark.  Way over my head, but just looking at the pics, seems the dslr wasn't quite up to the Nikon 5000, very close though.  And perhaps better colors too.  But the process, is much more involved than I want to spend my time on.  I guess I'll just save for the 5000.
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Chris
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 09:01:09 pm »

Chris,

You are going to have to save a lot because the Nikon 5000 has been discontinued for quite some time and they command very high prices on the resale market. The motivation for writing that article on "scanning" with a camera was in part to address the fact that there are precious few efficient high-end film scanners now left on the market. I've also recently completed quite a comprehensive review of the scanner situation in the context of reviewing the new Epson V850 you may also wish to consider. You may peruse that article as well (be warned: an even more extensive PDF) here: https://luminous-landscape.com/epson-v850-pro-scanner-context/
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 09:25:46 pm »

Yeah, I've had my eye on ebay for awhile, $1200 give or take for a 5000.  I'd seen some other positive reviews of the V850 and have considered it, your review is very thorough from a quick view.  Perhaps I should just get the 850 and if I have any that I want to print larger than 13x17 I can have professionally scanned.  Just wish I was using my 4x5 gear ;)

Thanks Mark for sharing your opinion,
Chris
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 09:36:30 pm »

You are welcome Chris.

BTW, the probability of actually winning an eBay auction for a Nikon SC-5000-ED at USD 1200 is quite low. The more probable range is 1500-2000 or more.
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 09:41:30 pm »

Yes, I saw that. Of course we don't know how used and in what condition; but I agree, if you are prepared to wait long enough or have a bit of luck good things can happen.
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 09:44:13 pm »

Too true Mark, but at least Nikon's still servicing them.  Still, having something new with warranty is attractive...too many dilemma's leads to inaction lol
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 09:45:39 pm »

For sure!
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2015, 01:58:11 pm »

My father's negatives were lost for 72 years (He died at 29, when I was three). They were found and returned to me recently (about 2 1/2 years ago). There were 220 rolls of 16 per roll (B&W 645 format). My Polaroid 120 Sprintscan died during Hurricane Sandy, being subjected to 6 months of freezing temperatures. I found on ebay a Nikon 8000 medium format film scanner, WITH THE HARD TO FIND ROLL FILM GLASS CARRIER! I purchased it, and before I scanned my first negative, I sat on the carrier and broke the glass! Fortunately I found a guy whose company makes thin precisely made replacement glass, both the bottom piece and top piece. The top piece is special anti-Newton glass. His prices were reasonable. Saved the day. Since Nikon no longer supports the 8000, I use Vuescan, and I must say, it performs a wonderful job. It is capable of multi passes and exposures. I have made some big prints from my father's negatives. I agree with Mark 100%, there are few good scanners out there. I forget what I paid for my used 8000, but probably more than what it cost when new.
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2015, 02:20:37 pm »

Just checked ebay. Nikon 8000 scanners are selling for LESS than 5000 scanners. Since the 8000 will also scan 35mm at 4000 dpi with the proper holder, you may want to check out the 8000 scanner. Just a thought.
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 08:09:29 am »

What no one has pointed out is that scanning, done right, is a pretty slow and tedious process (coolscan IV here).  You might want to try to borrow a scanner for a trial before sinking money into it.....
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Re: Would this setup be similar to/better than a Nikon CoolScan 5000
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 09:06:38 am »

What no one has pointed out is that scanning, done right, is a pretty slow and tedious process (coolscan IV here).  You might want to try to borrow a scanner for a trial before sinking money into it.....

In principle I agree with you, but as usual, "it depends". The time-based efficiency of scanners depends very much on the model and the software. One CAN batch scan efficiently and to a pretty decent level of quality (depending on what size output is intended) using the combination of an Epson V700/V750/V800/V850 and the batch scanning utility in SilverFast 8. The alternative of using a camera, as well as the batch scan option for the Epson scanners mentioned here are covered in the links I provided in post #3 above where the process considerations are described.
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