Matte paper advice

[ricky02]

I´m looking for advice on a matte paper:

No oba
High white point
High dmax
Matte surface
High detail

Any suggestions ?

[PeterAit]

I can't offer a paper suggestion, but your desire for high white point, high Dmax, and high detail are things that matte paper is not good at. There must be a reason you want matte, but in your shoes I might try to figure out a way to use a non-matte paper if at all possible.

[Paul Roark]

Try Epson Hot Press Natural.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

[howardm]

As Peter pointed out, a lot of your desired 'features' are not what matte is best at so you may want to rank the features you want in terms of 'must have'.

That said, take a look at Canson Rag Photographique.  It's about as close as you're gonna get.  IMO, the Epson HPN may well be too natural/off-white for you.  I'd love it if they made something *between* their Bright and Natural.

[ricky02]

ok, i should rephrase, high (as possible).

[hugowolf]

I would second the suggestion of Canson Rag Photographique, which has a good white point for a non-OBA paper. The 210 g/m² version is slightly brighter than the 310 g/m² version, but not significantly.

Hahnemühle Photo Rag 308 is also a good smooth matte paper, but not as good as the Canson paper, and it also has some OBA content.

Brian A

[luxborealis]

My favourite and the one I use almost exclusively for B&W and colour landscapes is MOAB Entrada Rag Natural.

No OBA
Slightly off-white
Great feel (heft?)
Beautiful texture

For landscapes, it provides the most "natural" look (the least techno-looking) as there is no gloss, and a lovely warmth.

[JRSmit]

I´m looking for advice on a matte paper:

No oba
High white point
High dmax
Matte surface
High detail

Any suggestions ?

innova ifa24 or ifa11
ifa24 is actually a bit whiter than ifa11.

[TylerB]

ditto on Canson Rag Photographique, also Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

[ricky02]

Thanks all for your replays, think i will chose the canson rag.   

[ricky02]

How is the canson rag surface, is it necessary to coat for displaying with out glass?

[hugowolf]

How is the canson rag surface, is it necessary to coat for displaying with out glass?

Like all cotton papers, it isn't as smooth as a wood pulp based paper. Especially in dark areas, a finger nail scratch would show easily. There is a kind of micro nap to these papers. It wouldn't, for example, be good to graze the corner of one print with another.

Premier Print Shield spray (probably the same as Hahnemühle Protective spray, which I use, and Moab Desert Varnish) help with this, but they not as protective as glazing.

I have a botanical specimen print on Hahnemühle German Etching with four light coats of the protective spray. It once was splashed with a little red wine. I was able to remove it with a damp Q-tip.

Brian A

[ricky02]

Like all cotton papers, it isn't as smooth as a wood pulp based paper. Especially in dark areas, a finger nail scratch would show easily. There is a kind of micro nap to these papers. It wouldn't, for example, be good to graze the corner of one print with another.

Premier Print Shield spray (probably the same as Hahnemühle Protective spray, which I use, and Moab Desert Varnish) help with this, but they not as protective as glazing.

I have a botanical specimen print on Hahnemühle German Etching with four light coats of the protective spray. It once was splashed with a little red wine. I was able to remove it with a damp Q-tip.

Brian A

When you mean glazing its liquid varnish like timeless? 

[hugowolf]

When you mean glazing its liquid varnish like timeless? 

Glazing, as in (or pertaining to) glass. It is not possible to obtain the security and protection of a pane of glass or acrylic with a coating.

Brian A