This discussion is fascinating.I think I find myself pretty close to Stamper's attitude, so my suggestion to Tony is this:Pay attention to each of these suggestions for "improvement," and ask yourself whether the suggestion feels right to you. Don't worry about the credentials or track record or rhetorical skills of the one who made the suggestion. If it feels right to you, then you might want to consider it.I happen to find Tony's image very satisfying just as it is.-Eric
...Don't worry about the credentials or track record or rhetorical skills of the one who made the suggestion. If it feels right to you, then you might want to consider it.
Might? Might!? Are you kidding me!? When I invest a few minutes of my life in trying to help others, I expect in return an absolute obedience. No ifs or buts about it. No vacillating. Just do it as I say or...else! I'll track you down, smoke you out, and teach you a lesson, damn it!
Pay attention to each of these suggestions for "improvement," and ask yourself whether the suggestion feels right to you. Don't worry about the credentials or track record or rhetorical skills of the one who made the suggestion. If it feels right to you, then you might want to consider it.
Both of you are entitled to your opinions but Tony must wonder which opinion carries the most merit. The bottom line for me is that some posters seem to take great delight in finding faults rather than finding worthwhile good points.
... I can't see how the car can be separated even more from the surrounding? If the shrubbery was in the background then possibly a defocus would help, but it isn't. Dodging and burning would be tedious and selective clarity would also be tedious... I would be interested in how you could achieve it...
Any thoughts on my old wreck, pro or con?...
I am going to surprise Stamper and say that I do not find any faults with this image Great chrome rendering, btw.
Tony Jay seems perfectly able to hear other people's opinions and then do what he wants to do.Stamper, you seem to take great delight in finding faults with other posters.
No, I wasn't suggesting any of the above mentioned techniques (defocus, dodging, burning, clarity, etc. - although some, or all, might actually work) but a simple tonal separation, the one typically achieved with a particular filter in film days or its modern, digital equivalent (I suggested orange, but red might work as well) . It would make the car lighter and the greenery darker. As we all know, the brightest part of an image attracts our attention the most (which is the very reason I suggested getting rid of the twig in the lower left corner - too bright, but unimportant).
Any thoughts on my old wreck, pro or con?Found this while climbing up the hillside to gain access to the junkyard in Mayer, AZ. There was no access from the road due to the dogs and the locked gate.Sigma DP-1 Merrill, converted in Sigma Photo Pro.
About the OP: I actually like the current framing. The clear foliage at the bottom left corner seems as it flooded out of the car's door. (I would probably ajdust slightly the tones a little bit to stress this). Cropping the image will make it just a photo of the car wreck.