Topic: how does licenses work for i1 pro? (Read 15936 times)

crwoo · « **on:** February 15, 2015, 06:12:56 pm »

hi, I recently got a X-Rite i1 pro and planed on using agryll i also want to use iProfiler.
Can't i use the i1 for a dongle? i have access to an older mac or windows. I prefer mac. do i need to get older version? i tried the version from 2011 and that one didnt work. what do i need to license it? i dont want to pay the price for an upgrade to newest version.

digitaldog · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2015, 06:15:08 pm »

It may be licensed, might not. You'll just have to plug it in and launch the software, hope for the best.

crwoo · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2015, 06:17:42 pm »

when inplug it in it says license is demo. when i try to register, it says cannot communicate with xrite servers. does that mean i cannot use the software?

digitaldog · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2015, 06:21:24 pm »

Sounds like it is trying to phone home and can't, hence the server comment. Are you sure it isn't saying X-rite services not servers? That's different.

crwoo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2015, 06:32:38 pm »

I only see the message when i press upgrade license. I didn't purchase the updated license.

All features are demo license, don't all i1 pro come with some sort of licenses?

howardm · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2015, 07:30:08 pm »

have you confirmed that the software detects the presence of the i1Pro?

crwoo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2015, 07:32:42 pm »

when i click upgrade license and manual activation i can see the serial number of my i1. that is the only sign of it's presence i can find.

Rhossydd · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2015, 03:31:24 am »

If you have an i1 Pro spectro it won't have a licence to make printer profiles with i1 Profiler, unless you've paid for the upgrade.

Not sure what the situation is with respect to monitor/projector/scanner profiles, but it may well be the same.

You'll be stuck with having to use i1 Match (if it runs on your system).

howardm · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2015, 09:22:42 am »

I'd buy an old WindowsXP laptop before I gave XRite $800 or whatever obscene cost it is to 'upgrade' to i1Profiler.

Other choices are $0 Argyll or maybe $300-ish BasICColor 'DropRGB'

Mac Mahon · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2015, 11:10:44 am »

Quote from: crwoo on February 15, 2015, 06:12:56 pm

hi, I recently got a X-Rite i1 pro and planed on using agryll i also want to use iProfiler.
Can't i use the i1 for a dongle? i have access to an older mac or windows. I prefer mac. do i need to get older version? i tried the version from 2011 and that one didnt work. what do i need to license it? i dont want to pay the price for an upgrade to newest version.

I have an older i1pro and i1Profiler licensed for print profiles, but ...

I can also use the i1Pro with Argyll without any xRite licensing. Argyll simply detects the presence of the i1Pro and just works!

You should not need to worry about licensing if you plan to use Argyll.

Tim

crwoo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2015, 12:04:43 pm »

Hi, thanks (I didnt get notification of your replies)
OK so I can use imatch? will that make good print profiles?

I am using agryll and I know that is free. I am having a problem figuring out the ink loads and I dont see where I can do that with argyll. I was assuming iprofiler could and if so i was wondering why I can't use my i1 as a dongle.

Thanks

digitaldog · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2015, 12:07:53 pm »

i1Match can make a good profile. Not up to more modern color engines and even then, nothing earth shattering.

crwoo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2015, 12:12:06 pm »

what is best way to determain ink load? I am using an epson 3800 and any papers above 320dpi have much higher ink loads than my needs can handle. if I use the RIP that comes with the epson 3880 designer and set ink load to -63 it will print about right. I used premium semi gloss as my starting point because that seems to use least amount ink. Plain paper is low dpi

howardm · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2015, 12:22:42 pm »

I dont think (or 'I havent seen') i1Profiler can control ink load either. It's really up to the driver and printer setting for the paper you've selected.

There are several simple 'media test' images you can use to help zero in on a pre-defined media.

http://www.on-sight.com/how-to-determine-the-optimal-media-selection-for-any-paper/

crwoo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2015, 02:21:40 pm »

Ink load is pretty much my problem now. I guess I will keep using agryll then, or maybe check out i1match.

GWGill · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2015, 05:40:17 pm »

Quote from: crwoo on February 17, 2015, 12:04:43 pm

I am using argyll and I know that is free. I am having a problem figuring out the ink loads and I dont see where I can do that with argyll.

Assuming you are using CMYK, and that by "ink load" you mean total ink limit/TAC, the you use the -l parameter. See
http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/colprof.html#l. Typically you should have started specifying it much earlier in the process though, in creating the target values - see http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/targen.html#l.

See http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/Scenarios.html#PP6 for how to specify a black generation curve.

If you are driving the printer in RGB mode, then you will have to control the ink level in the printer itself, or its driver/RIP.

PhilipCummins · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2015, 05:03:45 am »

Quote from: crwoo on February 15, 2015, 06:12:56 pm

hi, I recently got a X-Rite i1 pro and planed on using agryll i also want to use iProfiler.

Basically the i1Pro's AFAIK are licensed in 4 ways - 1 is with nothing (OEM from say, EFI, ChromaPure, CalMAN, other), the second is with i1 Match licensing, the third is with ProfileMaker Pro and the fourth is with i1Profiler licensing. To check the license for i1Match you need i1Diagnostics (http://www.xrite.com/i1diagnostics/support/d1261) which will list out the licenses (if any) for i1Match. These were broken into Scanner, Monitor, Printer Easy RGB, Printer RGB, Printer Easy CMYK, Printer CMYK, Beamer, Digicam and Editor. In general your mix of i1Match licenses (if any) will determine whether you can get i1Profiler Upgrade A or B (i1Photo, i1Proof and i1XT[reme] are A applicable).

ProfileMaker Pro had a stack of sub-licenses (like multi-colour, editor) as well but in general you could use i1Profiler Upgrade A to upgrade as well. You would need to install ProfileMaker Pro or at least the licensing tool to check this. i1Profiler comes in i1Basic (display profiling), i1Photo (RGB profiling) and i1Publish (adds CMYK profiling), and would need i1Profiler to check the licensing (which it looks like you don't have any).

Until you can confirm what license you have (usually i1Match or none) you won't know what upgrade options you have, in this day/age probably upgrading to i1Publish Pro 2 or i1Photo Pro 2 is the way to go or to start using Argyll, i1 Match no longer works except on Rosetta for Macs (i.e. 10.6 and below). If you had a i1XT[reme] with all the options probably getting a cheap Win XP/7 computer would be best to handle it, or run it in an emulator on the Mac.

crwoo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2015, 09:03:30 am »

Hi, seems like nothing is licensed I guess that's the reason it's running in demo mode. I have been hearing better stuff about argyll than i1profiler anyhow.
I am printing in rgb, perhaps i should be using cmyk, but i don't know where to start. I still have a lot to learn about profiles i guess.

PhilipCummins · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2015, 04:59:59 am »

Quote from: crwoo on February 18, 2015, 09:03:30 am

Hi, seems like nothing is licensed I guess that's the reason it's running in demo mode. I have been hearing better stuff about argyll than i1profiler anyhow.
I am printing in rgb, perhaps i should be using cmyk, but i don't know where to start. I still have a lot to learn about profiles i guess.

Yes, as mentioned most of the i1Pros would not be licensed for i1Profiler unless you bought a relatively new one or one that had been upgraded. For example, my i1Pro is licensed with all of i1Match & i1Profiler as it was an i1XT -> i1Profiler Upgrade A. In general you have to check what the printer supports, i1Profiler will generally tell you whether the printer is RGB or CMYK compatible (most CMYK printers would require a RIP).

crwoo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2015, 02:41:11 pm »

ok thanks all. i understand licensing now. mine is a rev d without any licensing.

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