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Setting for JPEG Camera display-5DIII, to get best histogram and RAW capture
ThomasR99:
Hi, all, thanks for stopping by the beginners' area to help with this.
I believe I read somewhere in the past that to get a histogram display that best matches the RAW image capture, saturation, sharpening and/or contrast should be set to levels below 'default' or the middle of the available range on the menu. I can no longer recall when/where I read that, and if others think it's still true or not. For some time I'd set these all 2-3 clicks/marks/notches (however you define it) below middle on the menu bar. Naturally, this made my JPEG's somewhat 'bland' looking, and I needed to do almost as much work to make them presentable for others to see on my Flickr site as I would have if I'd just used the RAW image. I do use an ETTR method so they tend to be a bit washed-out as well.
So, the questions are, how do you set your camera for JPEG preview (and the displayed histogram) in order to assist you in optimizing the RAW capture?
I mostly shoot in 'neutral' and 'monochrome' picture styles. And as long as I"m able to, I will continue to post-process in Aperture.
Thanks for your time. Links to articles discussing this for me (and others) to review are welcome as well.
Tony Jay:
The main issue is tone and tonal levels.
Choose a Picture Style that does not alter contrast - like 'Faithful'.
This gives the best approximation on what the raw histogram will look like.
Tony Jay
BobShaw:
The best advise for a beginner is to tape over the back screen and ever worry about. Just kidding, but there is far to much looking at the back screen and overthinking it. Everything you need is in the viewfinder. As long as the raw file is in range then you are good. Faithful is what I use also. Never use monochrome if you ever shoot video, as the video will be monochrome permanently.
digitaldog:
Each camera is different but by and large, just ignore the histogram on the camera when shooting raw. It's mostly a lie.
--- Quote ---Links to articles discussing this for me (and others) to review are welcome as well.
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Everything you thought you wanted to know about Histograms
Another exhaustive 40 minute video examining:
What are histograms. In Photoshop, ACR, Lightroom.
Histograms: clipping color and tones, color spaces and color gamut.
Histogram and Photoshop’s Level’s command.
Histograms don’t tell us our images are good (examples).
Misconceptions about histograms. How they lie.
Histograms and Expose To The Right (ETTR).
Are histograms useful and if so, how?
Low rez (YouTube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjPsP4HhHhE
High rez: http://digitaldog.net/files/Histogram_Video.mov
SZRitter:
--- Quote from: digitaldog on February 19, 2015, 04:00:48 pm ---Each camera is different but by and large, just ignore the histogram on the camera when shooting raw. It's mostly a lie. Everything you thought you wanted to know about Histograms
Another exhaustive 40 minute video examining:
What are histograms. In Photoshop, ACR, Lightroom.
Histograms: clipping color and tones, color spaces and color gamut.
Histogram and Photoshop’s Level’s command.
Histograms don’t tell us our images are good (examples).
Misconceptions about histograms. How they lie.
Histograms and Expose To The Right (ETTR).
Are histograms useful and if so, how?
Low rez (YouTube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjPsP4HhHhE
High rez: http://digitaldog.net/files/Histogram_Video.mov
--- End quote ---
Lie or not, it can give you valuable information for troubleshooting exposure on the fly. You can see if you are pushing towards under/over exposure, or if your scene may push the boundaries of your sensor's dynamic range. But, learning if you can blow the highlights, and by how much, on the histogram is a camera dependent thing, so experiment. Just remember, they are more of guidelines, not rules.
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