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Another way to get critique
« on: February 03, 2015, 10:37:11 am »

Hi fellow photographers,

We are launching a new photography service today at http://www.shuttercritic.com

Shutter Critic is a community for getting and giving honest, constructive and helpful photo critique. Its goal is to help you to improve your photography skills.

We're still in private beta and signups are available on invite-only basis.

The first 100 lucky ones can create their own free Shutter Critic accounts by using the invitation link below!
http://www.shuttercritic.com/signup/launch-100

Please contact us if you face any issues or want to share your ideas on how to improve Shutter Critic.

Best Regards,
Iiro-Pekka & Samuli
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 10:59:31 am »

Please explain why your critiques would be more “honest, constructive and helpful” than the critiques we see here on LuLa, and give us a rundown on your background – things that might let us believe you're in a position to critique  photography. Best of all, let's see some of your work so we can judge whether or not you know what you're talking about.
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 11:06:53 am »

Please explain why your critiques would be more “honest, constructive and helpful” than the critiques we see here on LuLa, and give us a rundown on your background – things that might let us believe you're in a position to critique  photography. Best of all, let's see some of your work so we can judge whether or not you know what you're talking about.

It's a community just like LuLa where photographers from different backgrounds can write critiques. Only a somewhat different approach than a traditional forum... that's why I called it "another way to get critique" :)
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 01:02:28 pm »

What exactly is "different" about its approach?
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2015, 01:15:06 pm »

The main difference is that shuttercritic.com is a complete platform specially built for writing/receiving photography feedback. The critiques are written in a more consistent manner and both critics and photographers can gain points and reputation. Later on you can track your progress and easily view the comments and critiques you have received.
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 10:35:31 am »

I find it really well conceived and well done, and I hope they (we, I partecipate) have success.
All the best,
sandro
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 11:27:04 am »

Hi fellow photographers,

We are launching a new photography service today at http://www.shuttercritic.com

Shutter Critic is a community for getting and giving honest, constructive and helpful photo critique. Its goal is to help you to improve your photography skills.

We're still in private beta and signups are available on invite-only basis.

The first 100 lucky ones can create their own free Shutter Critic accounts by using the invitation link below!
http://www.shuttercritic.com/signup/launch-100

Please contact us if you face any issues or want to share your ideas on how to improve Shutter Critic.

Best Regards,
Iiro-Pekka & Samuli

Critics?

I gave up on em. They are for gutless photogs that don't have any firm footing or direction. Sure they may provide something for the beginner. But take a look see at what they say about my work. Then take a gander where my work is.


When they can hide behind the keyboard critics will say almost anything. In the 3 years since I have been putting most of my work online I have received maybe 5 or 6 comments I felt were deserving of my photography. But when it comes to negative remarks there is no shortage.


"Sad"

"I don't like color."

"I don't like BW."

"I don't like HDR."

"I don't selective color."

"I don't like diffusion."

"I don't like Hyper-Real HDR, it is too cartoonish."
 
"Your photos are too contrasty."

"Your photos are too grainy."

"Why don't you take pictures of something pretty like flowers or a sunset instead of those ugly things."

"Your trying to make something out of nothing."

"Your photos are too sensational."

"Don't photograph the homeless."

"Don't photograph kids without their parents' permission."

"I find photos of people boring."

"Your not a very good photographer."

"Your exploiting the homeless."

"Your photos don't work for me."

"I don't like flower photographs they are boring."

"What were you trying to say?"

"Digital photography is not 'real' photography."

"I find it disturbing you think your work is museum worthy."

"It is over processed."

"Don't take pictures of people in public without their permission."

"Don't photograph anorexics."

"Cover up her breasts."

"Your photos are staged."

"I don't like your photo because it leaves nothing for the imagination."

"What garbage."

“Never crop your photos. If you have to crop a photo it wasn’t meant to be taken.”

"Your disgusting."

"Your photography is vernacular."
 
"You should trash that photo."

"I don't like fisheye photos."

"You'll never win a Pultizer."

“Don’t shoot digital, shoot film, digital is no good.”

"Don't send unsolicited photos to museums."

"She (the person in the photo) is a drunk…she is fat…she is an attention whore…she needs to go to the gym…she is trailer trash."

"Your self-centered"

'Your self-absorbed"

'Your inconsiderate"

"I don't like wide-angle distortion."

"Your a phony...your all talk...you don't know how to take photographs." (When I don’t send in any photos to the photo forums.)

"Your a troll...your looking for attention...your trying to boost your website traffic." (When I do send in photos to the photo forums.)

"Your an egomaniac."

“I’d never shoot digital. If and when film becomes unavailable I will give up photography.”

"Your goofy"

"I think somebody should tell you: your shots are very boring, nothing is happening there, just very normal snapshots, and you are trying to make them look interesting by shooting with a wide angle and HDR...they are all trash."

"It looks horrible."

"Your have low moral character."

"It's a hack composite, looks like it was done for some Sunday paper magazine."

"It looks like the view through the bottom of my shot glass after my fourth tequila at Cozumel."

"15 seconds of my life I will never get back. What a waste."


Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. When it comes to art...you can never argue taste - there is no right or wrong. But whenever the topic of 'opinion' comes up I must recount what Clint Eastwood's 'Dirty Harry' character said..."Opinions are like assholes...everyone's got one."

Regarding public collections, here is where my work is. I have photograph(s) and/ or limited edition hand-printed artists’ books at the following institutions:

Los Angeles County Museum of Art, California

Rhode Island School of Design - Special Collections Fleet Library, Rhode Island

Oxford Bodleian Library - Special Collections U.K.

Toronto University - Thomas Fischer Rare Book Library, Canada

British Library - Special Collections, U.K.

Rutgers University - Special Collections Library, New Jersey

Columbia University - Special Collections, Avery Fine Arts Library , New York

Art Center College of Design - Special Collections, California

Brown University - Special Collections Art Library, Rhode Island

University of California Berkeley - Special Collections Art Library, California

Oglebay Institute - Stifel Fine Arts Center, West Virginia

Mennello Museum of Art, Florida

The Art Museum at The University of Kentucky, Kentucky *

Mead Art Museum - Amherst College, Massachusetts

Victoria and Albert Museum - National Art Library, U.K.

NYU - Special Collections Fales Library, New York

Amherst College - Special Collections Library, Massachusetts

Stanford University - Special Collections Art & Architecture Library, California

Shanghai Duolun Museum of Modern Art, China

Allen Memorial Museum - Oberlin College, Ohio

University of Exeter - Bill Douglas Centre, U.K.

Frances Lehman Loeb Art Center - Vassar College, New York

Flint Institute of Art, Michigan

Noyes Museum of Art - Stockton College, New Jersey

RISD Museum, Rhode Island

California State Library Sacramento - Special Collections, California

International Center of Photography - Special Collections Library, New York

Fashion Institute of Technology - Special Collections Marcus Library, New York

Wright State University - Special Collections Dept of Art and History, Ohio

American Motorcycle Museum - Pinkerton, Ohio

National University of Singapore Art Museum, Singapore

Colby Museum of Art - Colby College, Maine

The Kinsey Institute, Indiana

University of Southern California - One Archives, California

Bibliotheque Kandinsky Special Collections - Centre Pompidou, France

Tweed Museum of Art - University of Minnesota, Minnesota

San Antonio Museum of Art, Texas

Spencer Museum of Art - University of Kansas, Kansas

Yale University - Special Collections Haas Art Library, Connecticut

UCLA - Special Collections Charles E. Young Research Library, California

UCONN - Special Collections Thomas J. Dodd Research Center, Connecticut

Brooklyn Museum Library - Special Collections, New York

Muscarelle Museum of Art - College of William and Mary, Virginia

The National Library of Sweden - Special Collections, Sweden

Museum of Fine Art Houston - Special Collections Hirsch Library, Texas

The University of Chicago - Special Collections Library, Illinois

The University of California Santa Barbara - Special Collections, California

Smithsonian American Art Museum Library - Special Collections, Washington D.C.

Corcoran Gallery College of Art - Special Collections, Washington D.C.

The University of the Arts - Special Collections Library, Pennsylvania

Reed College Library - Special Collections, Oregon

The Art Institute of Chicago School of Art - Flaxman Special Collections, Illinois

Ringling College of Art And Design - Special Collections Library, Florida

The Newberry - Special Collections, Illinois

New School Archives & Special Collections, New York

Cranbrook Academy of Art - Special Collections Library, Michigan

San Francisco Public Library - Special Collections, California

Maryland Institute College of Art - Special Collections, Maryland

National Library of South Africa - Special Collections, Pretoria, South Africa

Bard College - Special Collections Stevenson Library, New York

University of Pennsylvania - Rare Book & Manuscript Library, Pennsylvania

University California Santa Cruz - Special Collections McHenry Library, California

SCAD - Special Collections, Georgia

The National Vietnam War Museum, Texas *

Mills College Library - Special Collections, California

Colby Library - Special Collections, Maine

University of Nevada Reno - Special Collections, Nevada

Northwestern University - McCormick Special Collections, Illinois

Boston Public Library - Special Collections, Massachusetts

University of Iowa - Martin Rare Book Special Collections, Iowa

University of Tulsa - McFarlin Special Collections, Oklahoma

Mudd Center - Special Collections Oberlin College, Ohio

New York Public Library - Special Collections, New York

Harvard Radcliffe Institute - Schlesinger Special Collections, Massachusetts

DePaul - Richardson Special Collections, Illinois

UIC - Special Collections, Illinois

University of Colorado - Anschutz Special Collections, Colorado

Cleveland Museum of Art - Ingalls Special Collections, Ohio

University of Kentucky - Special Collections, Kentucky

Trinity College Watkinson - Special Collections, Connecticut

Cushing/ Whitney Medical Library Yale Special Collections, Connecticut

Deutsche Nationalbibliothek / German National Library - Special Collections, Germany

Harwood Museum of Art - University of New Mexico, New Mexico

University of London - Special Collections Senate Library, U.K.

National Library of Scotland - Special Collections, Scotland

Center for Creative Photography - Special Collections, Arizona

Bibliothèque Nationale de Luxembourg, Luxembourg

Jaffe Center for Book Arts, Florida

Reading Public Museum, Pennsylvania

University of Illinois at Chicago Daley Special Collections, Illinois

Minnesota Center for Book Arts, Minnesota

* Delivered - Pending Board Approval


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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2015, 12:42:04 pm »

Wow, judging from the onslaught of vitriol you'd think the original poster was advocating torturing puppies or something. The man simply invited people to check out his site. If you don't want to check it out, then don't. It's not worth getting your panties in a twist over an invitation, kids.
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2015, 01:17:09 pm »

Take a look at one of Cartier-Bresson's little known masterpieces called Tehran 1950 from his landmark 1952 book The Decisive Moment.

http://blogsearchtest.tumblr.com/image/110263740956

It is a room in the Shah of Iran's palace with bits of mirror embedded in the wall. I posted discussion on a photo forum for the photo.

Here is what the 'critics' had to say...

"Looks pretty marginal to me. Do you want me to bow down to him?"

"I found it more obnoxious than anything else."

'What makes it so great? The crooked horizon? The poor composition?  The distracting background?  The blown out chandelier?  The blown out black-blob of a curtain?  The distracting bright triangle from the area beyond the curtain?  The poor use of bokeh to make it hard to tell the wall is a mosaic of mirrors? The pushed-too-far contrast to remove any details."

The problem with online critics or any critics is they can't do you art for you nor are many of them in the position to know what is going on in your head. We are all on different wavelengths.

When I looked at the work of these critics it was nothing, absolutely nothing. The critic that said "Looks pretty marginal to me. Do you want me to bow down to him?" was an absolutely shitty photog. The other ones were nothing as well. As a whole they could not shoot their way out of a paper bag if their cams had razor blades glued on it. Yet...they all know how bad Cartier-Bresson is and they can out shoot the old master.

I've learned to not get my self-worth for my photography from online reviews. Photogs can be a jealous bunch. Lots of hatred within many of them. Our work defines us and is an extension of ourselves. But deep down inside many know their work will never amount to anything. Photogs as well as artists are stressed out trying to get attention for their work. All the while the market is polluted with so many images no one person could possibly look through even a fraction of them in a lifetime.

Bottom line...all this stress can put the photog / artist in a bad mood. But if freezing time  or art  is in your blood, you must produce and keep producing...whether there have an outlet for ones art or not. Personally, I've learned to forget looking for approval online. It can cause more harm than good.
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Re: Another way to get critique
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2015, 09:05:19 am »

I just joined, let's see how it goes. It's just too easy to shoot it down without even trying.
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