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Phil Indeblanc

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Calibrating a Samsung XL30... somehow in Win7x64. Anyone?
« on: December 22, 2014, 05:17:22 pm »

Looks like I need to recalibrate my screens.

The XL30 comes with an i1, but the driver works only under 32bit. It shows up under the UBS, but when I launch the NatrualColorExpertv2 sw, it says the Device is not compatible.

Samsung I think sold the "setup" to HP as the Dreamcolor series, but they made a differnt screen with the LED tech.  Well the problem is I have a great monitor with a 10bit LUT, that I can't access. I can use another spectro and calibrate the software, BUT the XL30 has ZERO adjustments when using in any of the Modes:Calibrated, sRGB, Adobe RGB, Emulation...As the i1 is supposed to directly tune the LUT on the monitor, not the Videocard.

I thought Virtual Machine would come to the rescue, but no dice! Suggestions anyone?
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 06:26:13 pm »

have you tried downloading a 64bit version of Xrite software and slip in the driver to the Samsung application?

http://www.xrite.com/i1display-2/Support

http://www.xrite.com/i1display-2/support/kb5152

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 06:41:49 pm »

Doing it now :-)

« Last Edit: December 22, 2014, 06:43:44 pm by Phil Indeblanc »
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 08:50:28 pm »

That didn't work.

I tried the iMatch install. It didn't work with NCExpertv2.
I downloaded NaturalColorExpert v3 as well....no dice.

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 10:56:10 pm »

Years ago, I had a XL20. ColorEyes Display Pro at that time had a module to hardware calibrate it. Since those monitors have been long since discontinued, I don't know if they still support it. You might try a demo or ask Integrated Color.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 11:54:08 pm »

I will try Xrite and IC. I have a hunch that Int Color will tell me to get a new screen :-) but who knows, I have not worked with them, so they maybe helpful. They look like they only sell Eizo's, so we'll see.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 03:25:53 am »

That didn't work.

I tried the iMatch install. It didn't work with NCExpertv2.
I downloaded NaturalColorExpert v3 as well....no dice.



but NCE is now at v4... why did you try v3 ?
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 12:05:44 pm »

I don't see it in my searches.
They discontinued it at v2 in the US.

Do you have a download link perhaps?
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 12:50:35 pm »

i1 says only thier sw will allow for LUT calibration.

The NCE installs/runs on Win7x64, but it say Monitor is not compatible with NCE (v3)
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2014, 01:34:55 pm »

I don't see it in my searches.
They discontinued it at v2 in the US.

Do you have a download link perhaps?

google it ! "Natural Color Expert v4" , right ?
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 01:37:06 pm »

but it say Monitor is not compatible with NCE (v3)

well, that might be a different story - they decided to drop XL support in later releases... that's backstabbing on their part.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 10:20:47 pm »

I'm rather familiar with google and I do make a good chunk of effort before I post any questions here. Come now :-)

The NCE v3 is even hard to find, let alone any reference to v4.

I would like to try V4, as I think it might work with a i1Display Pro. The i1Display2 I have is not compatible.

Samsung is still supporting the screen, just not the operation with the i1 under x64bit
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 11:58:47 pm »

I'm rather familiar with google and I do make a good chunk of effort before I post any questions here. Come now :-)

it is easy, you google, you see that it is mentioned along with some Samsung display models in the search results, you copy that model name, go to any Samsung site, enter the model, go to support link for that monitor and from there there is a link to download v4

for example http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/monitors/professional/LU32D97KQSR/EN
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 02:54:44 am »

I'm starting to think that our Free US web is filtered :-/
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2014, 02:57:14 am »

Its surprising that the Samsung support of 40 minutes who I spent time with on the phone had no clue there was a v4. She even helped me find v3.0!!
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2014, 03:42:22 am »

i1 hinted me towards trying HP Dreamcolor.

I downloaded the software and it recognizes the monitor as a SyncMaster. But the i1Display2 doesn't get recognized, as it asks for HP Dreamcolor Colorimeter...Please connect. I tried to connect both the i1 and Spyder3E.

Another way I can do it is to laod XP calibrate it and then Load Win7, but I think they use different gamma. Besides, that is a major task to do.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2014, 07:18:09 pm »

V4 just says the same..."Monitor is not compatible with NCE"

When I launch NCE it says the same, but if I have the spectro unplugged it doesn't say not compatible. It says Device not found. Plug in device and restart.

Its unbelievable that I cannot use this screen. It really burns.

So i1 says Only a Samsung software will allow calibrating the hardware monitor.

thank you though :-)
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2014, 04:30:19 am »

Try a ColorEyes Display Pro trial (I see it's mentioned above). The software connects to the monitor through DDC/CI if the monitor supports it - it's just that manufacturers often have their own variation of the protocol, so it may or may not work (and often doesn't). But it's definitely worth a shot.

CEDP should load its own sensor drivers and a 64 bit driver for the i1 should not be a problem there. If you can get DDC to work ColorEyes is an excellent calibrator that should provide all you need and is worth the modest price. It allows black point adjustment (important) and IIRC you can also fine tune white point on both axes (blue-yellow and green-magenta).

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2014, 02:24:58 am »

When calibrating it shows the LUT of the video, yet the monitor is blank. I'm guessing it doesn't read it.

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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2014, 08:53:21 pm »

I did also install the HP Dreamcolor, and it asks for a compatible device to calibrate with. The i1 Samsung ships with the monitor doesn't work, nor does the Spyder. I think it has to be the specific device?
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