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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 01:47:52 am »

A 50,000 sq foot production facility in Las Vegas, 250 permanent employees, a top-secret printing process ...

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Becoming an Art Consultant for Peter Lik is lifting yourself to a higher kind of sales. This isn’t soulless “churn and burn” or high-pressure retailing to get one sale. This is selling incomparably beautiful images that enhance the lives of many people at our 14 galleries worldwide, all of them in high-traffic, ultra-high-end, luxury locations. This is about building artful relationships, creating collectors for life.

At Lik, you really are a Consultant, helping people discover the art that’s perfect for them. Our focused training will make you a friendly expert for our gallery visitors, even if you’re a newcomer to the world of art and photography yourself.

What we do want are sales professionals comfortable in marketing luxury products and services. If you have a passion for art, all the better - but what we are really looking for are people who want to be a part of something fun, great, and historic. Oh, and who also want to learn our way of selling for a true chance at a six-figure income.

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One of the most important artists of the 21st century ..
The world's most influential fine art photographer ..


Am I just being overly cynical or does this have the whiff of 'Bernie Madoff' undertones ?
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 03:06:11 am »

The guy is IN BUSINESS to sell his photographs(can they really be called that with all the PS after-effects done?) More like graphic arts to me, than photography.

Anywho, his business is to GENERATE business. People buying $6.5 million dollar prints probably aren't even sneezing at the fact they're doing so. Who knows, maybe it'll be adorning the northern wall of some rich guy's loo. Perhaps it'll inspire "peaceful movements" ;D!
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 08:44:00 am »

Umm... A marketing genius.

I went to his website and saw a lot of overworked, over saturated mediocre images. Maybe I'm the dummy though. He's making photography pay, and pay well, which puts him in a very small club.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 10:24:50 am »

He's a terrific promoter with great shots.  I saw his store in Honolulu when I vacationed there a month ago.  First class presentation.  No.  I didn't buy anything. 

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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 11:03:20 am »

A 50,000 sq foot production facility in Las Vegas, 250 permanent employees, a top-secret printing process ...

One of the most important artists of the 21st century ..
The world's most influential fine art photographer ..


Am I just being overly cynical or does this have the whiff of 'Bernie Madoff' undertones ?



No, but that would be the "true chance at a 9-figure income...."

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 11:11:12 am »

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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2014, 12:12:04 pm »

Good for him.

And sales-speak nearly always sounds pretentious.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 12:35:00 pm »

Good for him.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 12:40:04 pm »

Sour grapes, whiners! ;)

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 12:54:25 pm »

Well done!
Smart redistribution of assets. Some of that money will support the camera and printing industry.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 01:09:53 pm »

I don't see how he's a Bernie Madoff.
His pictures are real and belong to him, I'm sure, so there's no cheating.
How much they're worth is really the business of the person paying for them.
If he is able to concvince people to pay millions for his photographs, then good for him.
I'm, pretty sure he's not conning retirees out of their pensions, and that those that pay these numbers are looking to throw that money away on anything.
If you're playing a big money game, you got to pucker up and spread some industrial grade BS.
In this case I see nothing wrong with anything he does.
His photographs are fine - not very exciting for me, so I won't buy them.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 01:30:50 pm »

What I don't understand... is what Andreas Gursky has to do with any of the above..., or the O/P? ...can you explain Manoli?
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2014, 01:32:56 pm »

What I don't understand... is what Andreas Gursky has to do with any of the above..., or the O/P? ...can you explain Manoli?

He held the previous record for the highest sold photograph, around $4 million, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 01:37:27 pm »

He held the previous record for the highest sold photograph, around $4 million, if I remember correctly.
Yeah... but, what is the relation to the conversation? ....the money? ...is that it?
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2014, 01:41:08 pm »

Yeah... but, what is the relation to the conversation? ....the money? ...is that it?

The title of the thread means, in a humorous way: "AG, you are not the highest paid photographer anymore, get lost!" So, yes it is about the money, and the fact that photographs are (finally) reaching selling levels previously reserved only for oil paintings. Then again, it is a moving target, as oil paintings have gone into hundreds of millions.

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2014, 01:44:58 pm »

At least it's better than the shitshow Gursky managed to con someone out of 4.3 million for.
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2014, 01:51:12 pm »

The (already updated) top 6 of most expensive photographs:
http://shutyouraperture.com/the-top-5-most-expensive-photographs-ever-sold/
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Re: Andreas Gursky - take a hike !
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2014, 01:54:56 pm »

At least it's better than the shitshow Gursky managed to con someone out of 4.3 million for.

Easy, Sandeep, some of us quite like Gursky :)

References to Bernie Madoff and cons are quite misplaced here. The only con would be if the piece of art is a forgery, anything else is a free exchange between the artist and the buyer, both knowing perfectly well what they are getting into.

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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2014, 02:02:26 pm »

The title of the thread means, in a humorous way: "AG, you are not the highest paid photographer anymore, get lost!" So, yes it is about the money, and the fact that photographs are (finally) reaching selling levels previously reserved only for oil paintings. Then again, it is a moving target, as oil paintings have gone into hundreds of millions.

OTOH, there can't be a comparison... the paintings reaching that kind of values are paintings of the past that change hands to next owners... The photo-graphs under subject are sold to first owners.... None knows the resale values of them after 10 or 50 years or ...two centuries! Or knows if the photographers mentioned here will be among the art investors choices or not... My opinion is that photo-graphy is not yet established as an art... and this is closely related with both "photographers" and the public, to have a "wrong mind" on "what photography is" or what they call "images"....
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