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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2014, 01:38:45 pm »

Well, I am almost ready to buy one from Japan. My friend (wanting to buy the 28-45mm for himself) has a co-worker who is traveling to Japan and he is willing to purchase and then ship or carry some gear back to him. (Carry back preferred but then you are at the mercy of the customs snivel servants. Everything I am reading says no duty on camera gear from Japan. Fingers crossed.....

$6188.23 - Current price quote in Yen from several shops = ¥751,900

Final price - $5569.407 --  Less Sales tax @ 10% (No tax charged if he shows his passport at time of purchase as noted previously by Edmund)

Trying to figure out if there is a fully insured shipping option available that does not have to go through a customs brokerage like UPS / FedEx does.
Tenso.com will ship it for a modest fee but they say nothing about insurance against lost / damage.

I looked at the Japan EMS web site. Shipping plus insurance runs under $60 US if I calculated everything right.
Curious as to how good they are with claims for lost or damaged packages. I know from experience that UPS and FedEx cover your six. USPS is hit and miss.

Have any of you dealt with insurance claims through EMS Japan? My guess is that since the last link in the chain is the US Postal Service, if the package is lost you may never see your money again.  I had a package sent to me from Australia and it was lost. The US Post Office offered me 4 cents on the dollar as payment for insurance coverage? That was over 15 years ago so I don't know if that is still how it goes with the USPS.

Going to check with FedEx and see what the total bill would be for them if this fellow can't or won't carry the gear back with him.
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2014, 04:50:32 pm »

If you can find a shop that gives "points" (typically 10%), you can come back the next day and get the lens with the points deducted.  And then you get points again for the cash balance involved in the lens purchase etc. which should pay easily for a couple of batteries, maybe a cheap lens ...

Also, there are a couple of times a year when you get awarded double points for a walk in purchase.

In your case, after points, the Yodobashi price of 835 000 Y matches the Map camera price, so to get a perfect comparison you'd need to factor in the lens and the points of the lens ... it's a very japanese game :)  Yodobashi and Map are both well known outlets, Yodobashi's retail presence as an electronics hypermart in Tokyo is of course physically much larger than B&H. Map seem to be a very specialised store, I have found articles online where company execs present their wares at Map. There are other big camera chain stores, and probably some hard discounters to be found as well.

Map awards points, but mostly for used gear, it seems. Yodobashi on everything. However you should be aware that *negotiation is often possible* to some extent for such a purchase, yielding at the very least some accessories as "service". It may also be useful to preorder a rare item.You might ask White Rabbit or Bernard or someone else who speaks japanese for a couple of hours of on-site help, and pay as you would for a camera assistant as equipment purchase is often a camera assistant's job.Also, I would recommend carry, not ship. In fact I think carry may be necessary as the items are listed in the buyers passport.

Last not least, at a specialist store, the salesman who makes the sale will give you his card, and (s)he will be helpful and diligent if contacted for after-sales requests.

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Well, I am almost ready to buy one from Japan. My friend (wanting to buy the 28-45mm for himself) has a co-worker who is traveling to Japan and he is willing to purchase and then ship or carry some gear back to him. (Carry back preferred but then you are at the mercy of the customs snivel servants. Everything I am reading says no duty on camera gear from Japan. Fingers crossed.....

$6188.23 - Current price quote in Yen from several shops = ¥751,900

Final price - $5569.407 --  Less Sales tax @ 10% (No tax charged if he shows his passport at time of purchase as noted previously by Edmund)

Trying to figure out if there is a fully insured shipping option available that does not have to go through a customs brokerage like UPS / FedEx does.
Tenso.com will ship it for a modest fee but they say nothing about insurance against lost / damage.

I looked at the Japan EMS web site. Shipping plus insurance runs under $60 US if I calculated everything right.
Curious as to how good they are with claims for lost or damaged packages. I know from experience that UPS and FedEx cover your six. USPS is hit and miss.

Have any of you dealt with insurance claims through EMS Japan? My guess is that since the last link in the chain is the US Postal Service, if the package is lost you may never see your money again.  I had a package sent to me from Australia and it was lost. The US Post Office offered me 4 cents on the dollar as payment for insurance coverage? That was over 15 years ago so I don't know if that is still how it goes with the USPS.

Going to check with FedEx and see what the total bill would be for them if this fellow can't or won't carry the gear back with him.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2014, 05:42:37 pm by eronald »
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2014, 10:02:05 am »

Thanks Edmund. Some great info.

Don
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2015, 04:12:17 pm »

Gents,
You can purchase the camera from BuySmartJapan and save approximately $2000 US.
Search their website and check the current prices.
There is a service fee and you will receive the camera in approximately 3 business days.
I purchased my 645 DA lenses via BuySmartJapan.

Take care,
Mike
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2015, 03:24:43 am »

My understanding is that there is no import duty in the U.S. for cameras.

See:  http://www.dutycalculator.com/hs-code-duty-rate-import-restrictions/852580/digital-camera/8525.80.4000/8525.80.3000/857/

I called US customs in New York to ask about this because I am thinking of getting into MF, but live overseas. I didn't want to get hit with a huge duty if I ever went to the US. The guy I spoke with (James Tresman) said that the MF camera I was looking at used the code 8525.80.4000 and is duty free. When I looked that up online, it said that for HTS CODE | Harmonized Tariff Schedule 8525.80.4000 items from the Netherlands, there was no duty but that sales tax is 21%. What is confusing to me is that 21% is the VAT I pay here, so I don't know if it refers to the local sales tax in the Netherlands (already paid) or an additional sales tax payable in the US.

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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2015, 03:22:00 pm »

Anyone tried Bic Camera with a Visa Card? Visa has this promo

http://www.visa-news.jp/visitjapan/i-merchant/01bic.html

http://www.visa-news.jp/visitjapan/en/i-merchant/bic/

5% off + return of sales tax + special gift offered with any Visa card purchase.
*Valid only for those who fulfill the conditions for tax-free shopping. Presentation of passport required.
- Limited to purchases ¥10,527 (tax excl.) or more on tax-free item in one day.
- For more information on tax-free shopping, please ask store staff.
*Special gift is offered only during the following periods: Chinese New Year - Cherry blossom season (February-April), Summer Holidays (August), National Day of China - End of the year (October-December)
Special gifts are available while stocks last.

Amazon.co.jp now has it for US$6,193 (742,335 yen)
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2015, 02:49:55 am »

I got a reply from BIC CAMERA WEST SHINJYUKU STORE, 2F Camera Cornner.

Pentax 645Z KIT 710,452yen (price from date 4/24)

Comes out as US$5,954 per this moment's Forex.

Based on the price I assume this is body-only.

The above mentioned price is the final price after VISA card is used and and Tax-free refund is applied.

VISA card promo is good until the end of April. I assume pricing is universal to all BIC CAMERA branches.
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2015, 03:01:56 pm »

Some US retailers are selling the 645Z for $1k less than B&H with US warranty. What I found interesting after opening my USA 645Z is that Pentax US is actually extending their service on the 645Z to 2 years from 1 year.

If there is any interest in buying a US camera, just PM me. I am not affiliated with any dealers, I am a consumer.
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Re: Buying a 645Z in Japan?
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2015, 02:44:18 am »

bhphotovideo is doing a deal if you buy the pentax 645z it comes free with the 55mm dfa 2.8. for 8500 bucks. i checked on ebay and the cheapest pentax 645z from japan is about 7200 bucks and then a brand new 55mm is 800 bucks. so for 8000 you can get that set for 500 bucks less then bhphotovideo here in the us. I would love to buy a brand new pentax 645z at those lower costs you guys were talking about lol. 5-6k is insane.
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