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Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:22:30 pm »

Can some one explain the logic behind the colour saturation controls in C8 ?

On the colour tab there's a colour balance option, but you can only increase the colour saturation.

To decrease the colour saturation you have to go to the exposure tab, huh?

I'm finding the default colour saturation simply too high for every camera here.
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 04:59:40 pm »

On the colour tab there's a colour balance option, but you can only increase the colour saturation.

color editor tab allows to decrease saturation "selectively"

color balance is for WB related adjustments = http://blog.phaseone.com/tag/color-balance-tool/ = so how 'd you logically decrease the saturation of the "white point" ? "...Every time you make a click White Balance, the tool will reset and set the white point in the neutral center of the hue circle. Moving the white point in the hue circle will now tone the white point to the specific color in the hue circle...""
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 06:07:06 pm »

color editor tab allows to decrease saturation "selectively"
Yes, I understand and appreciate that tool. It's one of C8's strongest features, especially when used as a local adjustment.
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color balance is for WB related adjustments = http://blog.phaseone.com/tag/color-balance-tool/
Ahh, so that's what it's for. Not the most intuitive name for the control really.
Although on the dedicated help page for that tab is says "The Color Balance tool enables users to get precise control of colors, hue and saturation within an image." (http://help.phaseone.com/en/CO8/color-balance/) except you can't decrease saturation anywhere on that tab.

It still seems daft to put the overall saturation control on the exposure tab, rather than with the other colour controls.
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 03:18:09 am »

Yes, I understand and appreciate that tool. It's one of C8's strongest features, especially when used as a local adjustment.Ahh, so that's what it's for. Not the most intuitive name for the control really.
Although on the dedicated help page for that tab is says "The Color Balance tool enables users to get precise control of colors, hue and saturation within an image." (http://help.phaseone.com/en/CO8/color-balance/) except you can't decrease saturation anywhere on that tab.

It still seems daft to put the overall saturation control on the exposure tab, rather than with the other colour controls.

The reasoning is that tweaking the saturation is a common adjustment that you often do when adjusting exposure, contrast etc.
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 03:27:25 pm »

The reasoning is that tweaking the saturation is a common adjustment that you often do when adjusting exposure, contrast etc.
So is setting the colour balance, but that's in a different tab.

The intention seemed to be to separate colour adjustments from tonal ones, but the implementation doesn't add up.
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 03:41:21 pm »

So is setting the colour balance, but that's in a different tab.

The intention seemed to be to separate colour adjustments from tonal ones, but the implementation doesn't add up.

Move White Balance to the Exposure tab?
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 04:10:11 pm »

So is setting the colour balance, but that's in a different tab.

it is a different "tool", not "tab" - you can move if you want WB "tool" and/or CB "tool" in the same "tab" with Exposure "tool"... the first thing I do is remove all P1 tabs and tools and create the workspace that I like from scratch.
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 04:39:03 am »

it is a different "tool", not "tab" - you can move if you want WB "tool" and/or CB "tool" in the same "tab" with Exposure "tool"... the first thing I do is remove all P1 tabs and tools and create the workspace that I like from scratch.

Which is exactly the right thing to do.  :)
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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2014, 06:56:14 am »

it is a different "tool", not "tab" - you can move if you want WB "tool" and/or CB "tool" in the same "tab" with Exposure "tool"... the first thing I do is remove all P1 tabs and tools and create the workspace that I like from scratch.
This is one of the great things about C1...a workspace you can tailor for yourself...

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Re: Capture One 8 and colour saturation
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2014, 10:45:33 am »

Right-click on the Exposure tab icon (the mountain looking icon to the right of the three-ring, Led Zeppelin zoso looking icon in the Default workspace) and "Add tool > Color Balance" - reposition by dragging the tool, once it is added to the Exposure tab.

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