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Ernst Dinkla

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HP Zs and adhesive matte vinyl, best choice?
« on: August 14, 2014, 04:15:36 am »

Anyone with some experience? Need to be matte, permanent adhesion, indoor use and above all have a good gamut.
I have little experience with media like that.

Edit: On second thought it may include Phototex like materials too as I read that they are easier to apply and hold better in time.

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Re: HP Zs and adhesive matte vinyl, best choice?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 02:29:36 pm »

Hi Ernst,

I would recommend Self-Adhesive Matte Propylene Banner (8 mil) for permanent indoor adhesion plus really good gamut (after profile) on my Z3200. However, it should be cautioned that installation on a wall can be problematic, with lots of pesky trapped air bubbles, unless you're an experienced sign installer with highly developed squeegee skills!

That's why I tend to always use Photo-Tex. I have run probably a dozen rolls of this material on my HP Z. Its gamut is not quite as high as the Adhesive Matte Propylene (fabric versus smooth white plastic), but it goes on -- and off -- with ease on a wall! Photo-Tex came out recently with a version of higher-tack adhesive that is more aggressive (Phototex "Ex"), and another version with a higher white-point (Phototex "OPA"), but I have never used anything but their "standard" aqueous-based material.

For the Photo-Tex I built my best profile around Hahnemhle Textured Fine Art Paper preset. There is already an HP preset for the Self Adhesive Matte Propylene.
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Re: HP Zs and adhesive matte vinyl, best choice?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 03:23:37 pm »

I was under the impression that aqueous pigment ink on Photo Tex had to be coated for abrasion protection and clean-ability. Am I right? (I reserve the right to be wrong.)   - Jim
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Re: HP Zs and adhesive matte vinyl, best choice?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2014, 04:28:50 pm »

I have never used a coating for internal uses (I'm sure it would be advisable for external applications). The prints I've made with my Z3200 on aqueous-based Phototex seem to be every bit as durable as any other output with a matte finish. I contour-cut most of my Phototex with a sign plotter, and the resultant "wall sticker cut-outs" have lasted quite a long time (some of them go back to 2010), with no discernible fading on walls that receive direct sun daily, or scuffing where inquisitive toddler hands can reach and touch!
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Re: HP Zs and adhesive matte vinyl, best choice?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2014, 04:38:12 pm »

or scuffing where inquisitive toddler hands can reach and touch!

I guess that's what I'd be curious about. What if said toddler got "something" on the mural, can you wash it with, say, warm water and a cloth? Do you know anything about the new product from BC that seems similar to the PhotoTex? Thanks.    - Jim
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