Paper that is closer to adobe rgb? (with epson 3880)

[yalag]

Is there a paper that is closer to adobe rgb when print with a epson 3880? I find that even the best paper is much closer to srgb than adobe. I'm trying to some prints of flowers and their colors are very demanding and none of my prints are falling in the gamuts of these papers.

[Ernst Dinkla]

Compare printer profiles with AdoberRGB in a profile checker. Add the Epson Proofing White Semi-Matte profile to that check too. I am not sure there is a 3880 version of that profile but the paper has most likely the widest gamut of all Epson papers. It is an RC paper though.


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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
April 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

[digitaldog]

I doubt the paper will play that much of a role. The inkset, very much so. And the original capture method (raw or camera JPEG) and encoding color space.

[Ernst Dinkla]

I doubt the paper will play that much of a role. The inkset, very much so. And the original capture method (raw or camera JPEG) and encoding color space.

Well, I assumed the other conditions were met. Not that the text was so convincing but where to begin otherwise .......
At least the widest gamut possible on paper should not limit any workflow.

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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
April 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

[digitaldog]

I just plotted the difference between a 3880 using Archival Matt and Premium glossy, there is a difference but again, not sure it's going to help that much and none of this has anything to do with Adobe RGB or sRGB. ColorThink Pro reports the gamut volume this way:

Matt 455,879
Glossy 768,295

But the real interesting analysis is of course looking at the two in 3D:

As one would expect, the differences are up near Lstar of the paper white and indeed, as the numbes above show, there is a larger gamut there but I don't know what will result from the actual image. I could plot that too if I had a low rez (1MB or so) and we could see if any image colors fall in between.

[yalag]

I just plotted the difference between a 3880 using Archival Matt and Premium glossy, there is a difference but again, not sure it's going to help that much and none of this has anything to do with Adobe RGB or sRGB. ColorThink Pro reports the gamut volume this way:

Matt 455,879
Glossy 768,295

But the real interesting analysis is of course looking at the two in 3D:

As one would expect, the differences are up near Lstar of the paper white and indeed, as the numbes above show, there is a larger gamut there but I don't know what will result from the actual image. I could plot that too if I had a low rez (1MB or so) and we could see if any image colors fall in between.

Sorry, are you saying the Archival matt is about the same as the premium glossy? I already have the premium glossy and it's not quite big enough actually. Would you like me to post a photo? It's in raw though so it's quite big...

[digitaldog]

Sorry, are you saying the Archival matt is about the same as the premium glossy? I already have the premium glossy and it's not quite big enough actually. Would you like me to post a photo? It's in raw though so it's quite big...

Not the same no. The differences are where one would expect to see it, near white. If you look at the red wireframe, that's Glossy, the solid colored plot is Matt.
What I'd need is a finished image, not raw, about 1-2MB in size which I could also plot with the two papers seen here.

[yalag]

Here's one example, thanks.