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deanwork

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Re: Which Printer to Replace an Epson 9900 with Clogged Nozzles?
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2014, 05:49:30 PM »

There are two of them right now on Ebay, I bet you could get them for $5,000.00. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epson-Stylus-Pro-11880-Large-Format-Inkjet-Printer-Factory-Refurbished/261367132925?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23423%26meid%3D7691214493735693108%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10050%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D321300545278&rt=nc

One states there is the one year warranty the other one doesn't say but asks to call for details.

Also up there you will see that two companies are selling refillable carts for this printer. And other people are selling the chip resetters on ebay also.

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Noah Waldeck

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Re: Which Printer to Replace an Epson 9900 with Clogged Nozzles?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2014, 11:34:47 AM »

So I've definitely decided I'm going to go with a 60" machine. I've found out I can get a good deal on the Canon IPF9400. The cost difference between the two would be pretty negligible (possibly even a better deal with the included ink) and 9400 is certainly a newer, faster machine than the 11880. Is there anything I would miss about the Epson experience? Any areas other the dithering that Epson prints are still superior?
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Ernst Dinkla

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Re: Which Printer to Replace an Epson 9900 with Clogged Nozzles?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2014, 11:45:04 AM »

There are differences but get that iPF9400, you will have less sleepless nights and more troublefree production.

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Noah Waldeck

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Re: Which Printer to Replace an Epson 9900 with Clogged Nozzles?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 12:24:05 PM »

There are differences but get that iPF9400, you will have less sleepless nights and more troublefree production.

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Thanks for the feedback Ernst, that certainly appeals to me. Do you use a 9400 yourself? I'm just looking for as much specific comparison on the differences as I can get to help me feel confident making the jump to different printer experience. As I already mentioned I was overall quite happy with me 9900 until I ran into these issues. Positive feedback on the Canon's has opened me up considering them as very serious alternative, I just want to know if there is some area out there (even if it's small thing) that's going to make me miss an Epson and regret switching. So any experience you or anyone else has in that regard would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Which Printer to Replace an Epson 9900 with Clogged Nozzles?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2014, 07:24:38 AM »

HP's here but I followed closely the switch from Epsons to Canons in a friend's print shop. There was no alternative for Epsons up to the 9800 range when HP and Canon introduced their photo/art quality wide formats in 2006. I went for HP and never regretted that switch. He got himself a Canon iPF9000 which was replaced by an iPF9400about two years ago I guess. That next to the iPF8300 and two iPF5100s that he also had. The Epson period: 1x 3000-3x 9000s-2x 9600-1or2x 9800 was closed with a 11880 he still uses but less and with more issues than the Canons. It was bought after the iPF9000 and needed to be run at the highest print resolution to reduce density waves in the blacks. Epson did not address the issues properly and later on used the silly argument that the use of third party papers should be stopped before any issue could be solved. In reflection the crises here made quite a dent in Epson service capabilities etc where Canon had to gain a market and did everything to solve the issues for their fresh line of wide formats. Canon heads improved since. An issue with the bearings of the media transport roll on the iPF9000 (media transport deviations) were solved by Canon with new bearing types after much brainstorming by my friend and me. Happened after many miles of matte art paper prints.

In general the Epson step from 180 nozzles per inch heads to 360 per inch heads to get similar print speeds the Canons can deliver, may have caused way more issues than expected. Nozzle checks have been and are the morning ritual for almost every Epson owner and is a rarity for Canon and HP owners. Nozzles dropping out during a print is also rare for us. I will not repeat the content of threads here but the issues reported here on Canons and Epsons reflect the experience of my friend's shop with both brands. He sleeps way better now than he ever did when Epsons were the workhorses of his shop.

There are differences in paper handling, paper weights, roll widths possible near 60", small gamut differences but they all are less important than the fact that on any day of the week you think I can do the job today without problems. The price you got quoted is a good one, we will never see a price like that here.

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