Early reports on the D800s over on Nikon Rumors

[Paul2660]

New info on the coming D800 s.  These guys tend to get it right:

http://nikonrumors.com/2014/03/25/rumors-nikon-d800s-camera-preliminary-specifications.aspx/#more-74552

Seems like it might have the newer sensor of the A7r.   Also a bit faster frame rate so Nikon may have a new processor also.   Photokina 2014 or CES. 2025.

Paul

[Manoli]

Photokina 2014 or CES 2025.

Really ?

[JohnBrew]

If Nikon Rumors is correct, it will take more than those specs for me to commit to a D800 replacement.

[Chairman Bill]

If only it could be a similar size to the A7r

[Paul2660]

John:

I tend to agree, but hopefully the current D800e will come down in price.  I do like the the mention of  "improved low light performance"

Paul

[BernardLanguillier]

Seems like it might have the newer sensor of the A7r. 

If the sensor of the a7r is different than that of the D800, the difference must extremely small because DxOMark cannot tell them apart.

Cheers,
Bernard

[ErikKaffehr]

Hi,


Same sensor. A7 has a new generation 24MP sensor while A7r has a sensor like the D800.

Best regards
Erik

If the sensor of the a7r is different than that of the D800, the difference must extremely small because DxOMark cannot tell them apart.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Paul2660]

The sensor issue was argued a lot over on getdpi. and someone over there produced a notice from Sony that the A7r is not the same sensor as the D800e, there were some very distinct differences.  The doc came from Sony.  A7r also has a newer version of the Bionz processor (not sure I have the spelling correct).  

I would have been surprised if Sony used a 2 year old chip on the A7r.  

Either way, it's a great sensor. 

Paul

[ErikKaffehr]

Hi,

A sensor takes something like 3 years of development, I have read. The reason I am pretty sure the A7r is an old design is that it lacks on sensor phase detection AF and electronic first curtain, both higly desirable on a mirrorless design.

The advantage of electronic first curtain is that the shutter doesn't need to be cocked before exposure, so faster response time is achieved and there are no vibration from the first curtain.

Best regards
Erik

[eronald]

It wouldn't surprise me if Sony's new sensor were a drop-in part.

Edmund

Hi,

A sensor takes something like 3 years of development, I have read. The reason I am pretty sure the A7r is an old design is that it lacks on sensor phase detection AF and electronic first curtain, both higly desirable on a mirrorless design.

The advantage of electronic first curtain is that the shutter doesn't need to be cocked before exposure, so faster response time is achieved and there are no vibration from the first curtain.

Best regards
Erik

[hjulenissen]

I do like the the mention of  "improved low light performance"

In principle: yes. In practice it seems to tend to mean "we turned up JPEG noise reduction by one notch".

-h

[eronald]

In principle: yes. In practice it seems to tend to mean "we turned up JPEG noise reduction by one notch".

-h

No, the noise reduction is there so faulty RAM chips can be used

Edmund

[LKaven]

Dark-frame subtraction should be a full-time option on this camera.  That would improve low light response tremendously.