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hjulenissen

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In music, there are styles that tries to get rid of "conventions" or "rules" in order to achieve various philosophical goals. Incidentally, this music is often described as "demanding". Often it is appreciated by a small "elite" that themselves have education and background in the genre.

Does anything similar exist in photography? Photographers who "break all of the rules", perhaps non-pictorial, make pieces of art that may be appreciated by the elites (but not by the public)?

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Michael West

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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 11:54:13 PM »

In music, there are styles that tries to get rid of "conventions" or "rules" in order to achieve various philosophical goals. Incidentally, this music is often described as "demanding". Often it is appreciated by a small "elite" that themselves have education and background in the genre.

Does anything similar exist in photography? Photographers who "break all of the rules", perhaps non-pictorial, make pieces of art that may be appreciated by the elites (but not by the public)?

-h

Im posting my most elusively elite avant garde photo for comments....








So what do you think?
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kencameron

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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 12:27:09 AM »

Im posting my most elusively elite avant garde photo for comments....








So what do you think?

By no means the least interesting image I have seen on line.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 10:41:05 PM »

Well here's an odd one that i shot years ago, but just broke out because i want to explore some of what is going on in this shot in a series.  I don't know if it applies to what you are referring to but it's not exactly conventional.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2014, 11:09:55 AM »

Thank you. I was hoping that the dynamic range was fitting for the subject matter.

Much appreciated
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 11:10:23 AM »

thats just the point....
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 02:16:48 AM »

fwiw

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"The Art of Romare Bearden All in all, it adds up to one of the most lucid, germinal applications to picture-making of the jazz aesthetic yet attempted -- a rich, ever-replenishing mix of invention, bricolage, and quotation, in which self-expression and collective memory echo and dance with each other like friends who've played together for a lifetime."
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 02:33:18 AM »

Im posting my most elusively elite avant garde photo for comments....








So what do you think?
It has sort of a Merce Cunningham-John Cage feel to it.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2014, 02:52:16 AM »

Many years ago I worked for a film-maker who had a decidedly rule-breaking approach to his work:  he would just let his running camera swing from a strap in his hand.  His takes were as long as the camera wind would last; his films as long as the film in the camera would last (IIRC, he used both a Bolex H16 and a Bell and Howell Filmo.)  Needless to say, given his "aesthetic", the films were projected uncut.  I once suggested that he would save time and money if he just projected the film also unprocessed. And,  needless to say, we parted company soon after that.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 04:32:19 AM »

It has sort of a Merce Cunningham-John Cage feel to it.

It brought John Cage to my mind. As I look at it, I have 4'33" playing on my iPad. And MacBook. And iMac. Just slightly out of sync.

Jeremy
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 05:58:40 AM »

Just slightly out of sync.

Jeremy
How can you tell? :)
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 08:14:41 AM »

http://zxorb.com/

One who experiments, prints on metals, wood, circuit boards, hand coloring and oils.

Always shooting and pushing things.

Take a look and see if his crazy stuff is anywhere close.

And no, it is not me.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 04:42:48 PM »

If it does, I don't care. Why do you ask?
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 10:26:02 PM »

It has sort of a Merce Cunningham-John Cage feel to it.

John Cage would appreciate the comparison, Im certain of it.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2014, 11:30:47 AM »

How can you tell? :)
If you have to ask, then you wouldn't understand the answer. ;)
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 11:33:39 AM »

How can you tell? :)
But there's also a really simple answer, you just look to see how long the track has to play on each.
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Re: Is there a photographic equivalent to free jazz? dodecaphony?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2014, 06:33:13 PM »

I certainly love (free) jazz and there a lot of photographers who don't photograph by "the rules", whatever that may be.

Look at some of the work of Alvin Langdon Coburn, Harry Callahan and Ernst Haas, just to name few better known ones.

I would put myself into the no-rules category with a lot of my work as well, I'd say I'm very inspired by jazz and freestyle in general.

By way of example, the photo I published today:


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