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aaronchan

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Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« on: March 01, 2014, 12:06:45 AM »

Is that mean Ilford is real dead?
Maybe they sold their production formula to HFA, or HFA just use their product name as a gimmick?
But no matter what, this is a good news for us who have been using Ilford gold fiber silk for years.
Good Marketing Strategy!




Dear Customers,
Dear Hahnemühle Friends,
We are delighted to introduce anew addition to our ‘Hahnemühle Photo’ range:

Hahnemühle Photo SilkBaryta

The true alternative to themuch-appreciated Gold Fibre Silk.

This exclusive paper features atrue barite coating below the ink-absorbing layer. This baritecoating complies with the structure of an analogue barite paper andallows for an extraordinary colour space for brilliant colourrendering.

In addition, the uniquebarium-sulphate coating ensures an extraordinary picture result –from creamy shades of white up to a velvety deep black. High colourdensity and brilliance guarantee impressive detail and sharpnessfor vivid high-definition pictures in exhibitionquality.

310 gsm, 100%á-cellulose
White silk-gloss baritepaper
Creamy shades of white and velvety deep black
Deep and brilliant colours forhigh-definition pictures
Acid-free andnon-ageing
Learn more about the latest memberof the ‘Hahnemühle Photo’ range and ask for your free sample asearly as today!
Please also visit ourwebsite www.hahnemuehle.com!

With kind regards,

Your Hahnemühleteam!

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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2014, 01:22:25 PM »

Is that mean Ilford is real dead?
Maybe they sold their production formula to HFA, or HFA just use their product name as a gimmick?
But no matter what, this is a good news for us who have been using Ilford gold fiber silk for years.
Good Marketing Strategy!

This good very well be the case
I've stocked up on the Ilford GFS,should last me a year or so,that being said,I just ordered this:

http://www.breathingcolor.com/action/bc_shop/248/#.UxIkjfldV8E.
According to BC,it is very,very close to the Canson Photographique,we shall see.?
Hope BC isn't giving me any BS-??
I'll post back with further info.

Mike




Dear Customers,
Dear Hahnemühle Friends,
We are delighted to introduce anew addition to our ‘Hahnemühle Photo’ range:

Hahnemühle Photo SilkBaryta

The true alternative to themuch-appreciated Gold Fibre Silk.

This exclusive paper features atrue barite coating below the ink-absorbing layer. This baritecoating complies with the structure of an analogue barite paper andallows for an extraordinary colour space for brilliant colourrendering.

In addition, the uniquebarium-sulphate coating ensures an extraordinary picture result –from creamy shades of white up to a velvety deep black. High colourdensity and brilliance guarantee impressive detail and sharpnessfor vivid high-definition pictures in exhibitionquality.

310 gsm, 100%á-cellulose
White silk-gloss baritepaper
Creamy shades of white and velvety deep black
Deep and brilliant colours forhigh-definition pictures
Acid-free andnon-ageing
Learn more about the latest memberof the ‘Hahnemühle Photo’ range and ask for your free sample asearly as today!
Please also visit ourwebsite www.hahnemuehle.com!

With kind regards,

Your Hahnemühleteam!


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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 02:54:14 PM »

I have requested samples to add to my ilford gold fibre silk repacement test as noted in other threads. Will report back.
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 03:11:28 PM »

... this is a good news for us who have been using Ilford gold fiber silk for years...

Just another good news from Permajet: http://www.permajet.com/ProductGrp/PermaJet-FB-Gold-Silk-Baryta-315gsm

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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 06:00:09 PM »

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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 11:45:00 PM »

I can't find anyone that carries the paper and has prices on it.
Anyone has the price to compare with the Canson paper?
Hugo
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 06:50:12 AM »

I dont think it's actually available yet but should be fairly soon.  I was told that the Innova IFA69 paper (similar) is in the process of cutting/packaging/shipping for US sizes and late March or April was their target.

I'd have to believe there will be some sort of Hahnemuhle 'tax' on the price  :(
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 01:14:19 AM »

The specs state that it's an alfa cellulose paper. How different is this form a cotton fiber? I was under the impression that cotton fiber is also an alfa cellulose, perhaps in a broad sense.  My question is whether the look and feel of this paper is closer to a resin based paper.

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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 03:52:23 AM »

The best alpha cellulose fibers equal the best cotton fibers and yes both will be top quality (alpha) cellulose in the broad sense. In the trade all qualities of cotton papers can fetch a better price due to the cotton/rag name reputation. There are inkjet art papers with a top quality inkjet coating on a perfect alpha cellulose base and there are full cotton papers with lower grade inkjet coatings. There are inkjet papers with 25% cotton and the rest alpha cellulose.

The smoothest mat, satin and gloss papers in my collection are alpha cellulose based. RC papers can be smoother than that due to the plain/ECF paper base + PE barriers. It is harder to make/get ultra smooth cotton papers and there is the consumer's expectation that a cotton/rag paper should have some roughness if not at the front than on the backside.

Maybe related to the paper base content the warm fiber/baryta papers are almost all cotton, the cooler ones alpha cellulose based. Very few neutral/warm RC papers exist, almost all have OBA content and are cooler than neutral.

On closer inspection anyone will notice a difference between fiber/baryta glossy papers and equivalent surface RC papers. If not based on the ink reception side then on the back side. Tactile experience included. There are some papers in my collection that are not really falling within the two categories, either they look like RC but have no PE barriers and are based on ECFpaper qualities. Can have other kind of barriers or none at all. Low weight, very white bleached paper base + OBA content in general.

Describing the boundaries vaguely here but in practice (salesmen, ads, specifications) it can be even more confusing. Hardly anybody has touched the HM Photo Silk Baryta yet so that answer will come later.


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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 08:43:48 AM »

Hahnemuhle reported me today that samples are underway. Will post results as soon as the test is performed.
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 02:53:23 PM »

I received the samples today, great job from Hahnemuhle.
I just finished profiling and testprinting, it is late now, so tomorrow more. Sorry to let you all wait a bit longer, but this much I can tell you already, it is worth the wait ;-)
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2014, 11:28:15 PM »

Jrsmitd: 

"I received the samples today, great job from Hahnemuhle.
I just finished profiling and testprinting, it is late now, so tomorrow more. Sorry to let you all wait a bit longer, but this much I can tell you already, it is worth the wait ;-)"

I was wondering if you ever tested this paper?  I am looking for a warm, low or non OAB thick 310 or so paper for BW printing.  I currently use Epson Exhibition Fiber but it has a blue cast to it. 

Thanks!

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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 11:39:45 AM »

David i did post a review. Look at www.janrsmit.com in the blog it is posted.
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2014, 12:01:31 PM »

JRSMIT:

I cannot read it.  It's in Dutch I think.  I guess I can try Google Translate?   Hmmm....

Thanks,

David
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 08:46:45 AM »

David,

yes, sorry, it is Dutch, but Google Translate should do it.
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Re: Hahnemühle Photo Silk Baryta
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2014, 12:21:40 PM »

No that is ok!  I was able to read it very well - thanks to Google!  I have started using Museo Silver Rag and it is warmer than Exhibition Fiber and doesn't have OBAs.  I have a couple of prints with me and will take them to a local framing store and see if I can find a matching matte for it.  Might be difficult to match the warmth of the paper but I don't know yet.
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