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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2014, 11:41:21 pm »

Looks great!!!
Thanks for sharing, Greg.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2014, 06:47:08 am »

I've been using my A7r on my Cambo Ultima for almost 2 months now and its been great.   I am running the camera off the AC adapter, tethered to Sony RCC which then goes directly into C1 7.2.   I also have a 22 monitor on a rotatable VESA mount next to the camera stand for a larger live view.   

Sorry for the crappy iPhone pics
How did you attach it? Where did you get the adapter, is it on a lens plate? Can you use wide angle lenses?
Thanks!
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2014, 11:25:58 pm »

How did you attach it? Where did you get the adapter, is it on a lens plate? Can you use wide angle lenses?
Thanks!

Its attached directly to the Ultima 35 bag bellows.   I started by purchasing a Macro extension tube on EBAY for the E Mount - took it apart to get the actual metal mount and retaining ring off of it.   I unscrewed the nikon mount from bags, centered the new E mount on the bag hole, punched new holes for the new screw pattern and screwed it into the retaining ring which is on the inside.   Removed the rear mount and inserted one of my 35mm horizontal canon mounts which is screwed to a Hejner L bracket Base 4 and a Side 3 with the camera mounted on a Nikon TA-N100 spacer to raise the center of the sensor. 

Simple to rotate from H to V by just undoing the bellows at the lens standard and rotating the L bracket. 

Works great with my 28 digitar and 35 & 45 Biogons - no need for a recessed board and I can get the rear element all the way to the body.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2014, 03:45:46 am »

Its attached directly to the Ultima 35 bag bellows.   I started by purchasing a Macro extension tube on EBAY for the E Mount - took it apart to get the actual metal mount and retaining ring off of it.   I unscrewed the nikon mount from bags, centered the new E mount on the bag hole, punched new holes for the new screw pattern and screwed it into the retaining ring which is on the inside.   Removed the rear mount and inserted one of my 35mm horizontal canon mounts which is screwed to a Hejner L bracket Base 4 and a Side 3 with the camera mounted on a Nikon TA-N100 spacer to raise the center of the sensor. 

Simple to rotate from H to V by just undoing the bellows at the lens standard and rotating the L bracket. 

Works great with my 28 digitar and 35 & 45 Biogons - no need for a recessed board and I can get the rear element all the way to the body.
Wow GregShapps, Great !
very similar to me. but I want to invisible A7 body, only visible to LCD screen and operating via mobile device (ipad, android phone).
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2014, 05:36:06 am »

Its attached directly to the Ultima 35 bag bellows.   I started by purchasing a Macro extension tube on EBAY for the E Mount - took it apart to get the actual metal mount and retaining ring off of it.   I unscrewed the nikon mount from bags, centered the new E mount on the bag hole, punched new holes for the new screw pattern and screwed it into the retaining ring which is on the inside.   Removed the rear mount and inserted one of my 35mm horizontal canon mounts which is screwed to a Hejner L bracket Base 4 and a Side 3 with the camera mounted on a Nikon TA-N100 spacer to raise the center of the sensor. 

Simple to rotate from H to V by just undoing the bellows at the lens standard and rotating the L bracket. 

Works great with my 28 digitar and 35 & 45 Biogons - no need for a recessed board and I can get the rear element all the way to the body.

Thanks for the info. Great idea, great use. I have 45 Cambo, still have to figure out how to put it on a lens board. I hope you Chiek will make an adapter soon.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2014, 09:46:12 am »

update… almost done.
Canon Ef mounts. so It can accepts almost all lenses. (shortest flange back : 44mm)

Now I'm making wide bellows for this camera.

and Black matte Finish, Annodyzing(?)

This is 1st PROTOTYPE. It will change for better use.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 10:04:56 am by chiek »
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2014, 09:56:02 am »

great work. do the lens panels have to be custom made? be a great camera to use with the rodenstock apo-rodagons.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2014, 09:57:34 am »

great work. do the lens panels have to be custom made? be a great camera to use with the rodenstock apo-rodagons.

Yes, used existing bellows frame and MOD to canon EF mounts.

test video from youtube
http://youtu.be/iRBkWv3a6PY
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2014, 04:32:46 pm »

Looks great!   I like the idea of a Canon or Nikon lens mount on the front standard, I'll have to try that on the Ultima.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2014, 10:43:38 am »

1st PROTOTYPE complete.

testing video
http://youtu.be/YdYB3BWE08c

If you're interest,
please visit to New Website
http://chiek.co.kr/6807

Maximum resolution
Horizontal :
18000 x 3950 pixel (a7) / 22000 x 4850 pixel (a7R)
Vertical :
17500 x 5950 pixel (a7) / 21000 x 7300 pixel (a7R)

2cut stitching resolution

Horizontal : 72mm x 24mm
11000 x 3950 pixel (a7) / 13500 x 4850 pixel (a7R)
Vertical : 48mm x 36mm
7900 x 5950 pixel (a7) / 9700 x 7300 pixel (a7R)

Sell… starting price US$799  ;D

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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2014, 01:23:15 am »

very lightweight and Handgrip (?)


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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2014, 07:26:04 am »

Masterly done!
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2014, 10:44:06 pm »

Masterly done!

Thanks,  ;)

2nd test video from youtube
Olympus OM 35mm shift lens test
http://youtu.be/W0_L-yD0Kms

EARLY BIRD SPECIAL
starting US$699

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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2014, 07:18:01 am »

my design concepts,


Sony a7 has very short flange back so It can accepts Most lens. so I designed for shortest flange DSLR, Canon EOS.

I want breathe new life to old GX680 body within first mirrorless, Sony a7 body.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2014, 02:18:40 pm »

The new Hcam is also ready for EOS. Good thinking!
I'm a Canonite  :D
Seriously, it's the best choice by far. Not only shortest flange but also the biggest diameter mount in 35mm.

Eduardo
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2014, 07:14:13 am »

The new Hcam is also ready for EOS. Good thinking!
I'm a Canonite  :D
Seriously, it's the best choice by far. Not only shortest flange but also the biggest diameter mount in 35mm.

Eduardo
Thanks, Edurado.
Many people interested and asked functions. so I will generate for upgrade idea.

I think If this camera enable EOS AF & aperture control, like metabones3, It will be better.

I tried it and I think It can make it. but Very difficult work so Price will be very higher…



My idea added rear shift scale.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2014, 10:41:59 am »

Today, 17TS lens tested.





Not Bad shifted Edge.
I will post tomorrow.
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2014, 01:18:58 pm »

Arca-Swiss has just released the bellows for their DSLR2.  And we have redesigned the mounting to make it fast and easy to use.
The mount will allow the use of wide angle lenses down to at least 35mm and we are testing to see how short we can go with movement.
The rear of the lenses, especially on the Rodenstock's is so long that it contacts the body of Nikon's and Canon's below 70mm.
The Sony A7 series, being mirror-less, allow much shorter lenses to be used.
I will have pictures soon this week.

Additionally to make it easy to use, the bellows mount works as follows. Mount is pulled off from bellows.  That's right, pulled off.  It is a magnetic rear lens mount with a finger cutout to make it easy to rotate on the body.  Mount the bellows to the the front frame of your DSLR2 and reconnect the two rings via the installed magnets. As the two rings nest inside a perfect seal and light trap is created.  Turn on your body and you are ready to make images.  If you switch to vertical or vice-versa, you merely need to reorient the body and the bellows mount will rotate in place.  You now have an extremely precise camera capable of using wide angle lenses on your DSLR with ease.

All three mounts will be supplied in this form in the future.
Enjoy!
Rod
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2014, 03:34:31 pm »

Very interesting ! Do you thing the HR-32mm will fit ?
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Re: making compact technical camera for A7/A7r
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2014, 04:08:58 pm »

Still not sure.  I am trying to get the lens mount to sensor distance on the Sony.(depth of body...)
The 32mm has a 22.3mm distance at infinity behind the rear edge of the lens to the sensor for sharp focus.
The 23mm and 28mm Rodenstocks are both 16mm ...

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