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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #640 on: May 15, 2014, 05:49:47 pm »

Adobe have always said that if CC apps need to phone home, you get a week or two before they stop working.  Let us know if it stops working for you tomorrow, I'd love to know how much slack they actually give. 

PS - how do you know it needs to phone home today or day after?  I've no idea when mine needs to phone home. 
It just so happens that one version is due for renewal so it gives a countdown and tells me it cannot actually be renewed due to the servers.
This version is for teaching purposes and as I have my own business subscription, I rarely open it.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #641 on: May 15, 2014, 06:12:26 pm »

It just so happens that one version is due for renewal so it gives a countdown and tells me it cannot actually be renewed due to the servers.
This version is for teaching purposes and as I have my own business subscription, I rarely open it.

Ah, thanks. 

Looking at Adobe's messages on http://status.adobedps.com/, they keep putting back the estimated time to fix.  Currently (3pm PDT) it's says "Current indicators have been revised to suggest service availability no earlier than 6 pm PDT."  Note: no earlier than 6pm.  It's always 2-3 hours in the future.  That sounds to me to be either "we haven't a clue what's happening", or maybe even "it's going to take a very long time, but we'll keep saying 2-3 hours in the future". 

If only Adobe were a software company, they could get someone to fix their online systems. 
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #642 on: May 15, 2014, 07:44:53 pm »

A professional with a deadline describes his dilemma with CC going down.
As suggested a grace period in case of outages or if CC needs to check in whilst away from internet would be a sensible thing to implement.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #643 on: May 15, 2014, 07:48:25 pm »

Looking at Adobe's messages on http://status.adobedps.com/, they keep putting back the estimated time to fix. 
CC appears to be back online now Simon, though still problems on the digital publishing suite status page.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #644 on: May 15, 2014, 07:53:00 pm »

Adobe have always said that if CC apps need to phone home, you get a week or two before they stop working.  Let us know if it stops working for you tomorrow, I'd love to know how much slack they actually give. 

PS - how do you know it needs to phone home today or day after?  I've no idea when mine needs to phone home. 
Update on this.
Now my apps can connect again, they have validated payment made on that subscription since they were last opened and now no warnings.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #645 on: May 15, 2014, 07:54:32 pm »

Hmmm. I was able to switch activation between several computers today without a hitch.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #646 on: May 15, 2014, 09:38:48 pm »

Typical ignorant and self centred response I expect from you Andrew.
Good, that means I've done my job!
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I'm sure those who cannot use their software/have urgent deadlines will be thrilled by your childish response.
Such as?
Oh, and it looks like CC is up and running so again BFD.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #647 on: May 15, 2014, 10:43:27 pm »

This short article touches on the event. The comments reveal the tip of the iceberg.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #648 on: May 15, 2014, 10:56:24 pm »

It is a big deal to anyone that got caught not being to get work done. I had a while ago in this thread a calculated hard response to people who blindly worked at Adobe and did not protest the switch. Now I see Andrew telling karma they got caught wow.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #649 on: May 16, 2014, 12:52:44 am »

Andrew has wound a lot of people up about this in various threads, mainly about how it must be their fault if they have issues with CC and now people can't get work done because Adobe have an outage and his only response is 'big f***ing deal'.
Shows what sort of charming and selfless fellow he is.

[Moderator's Note: removed the middle part of freaking]
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #650 on: May 16, 2014, 01:02:24 am »

'big f***ing deal'

Since when has expletives been accepted here? Not sure Andrew ever typed that phrase...pretty sure he didn't but you sure did–and putting quotes around it doesn't alter the fact you typed it...

So, you looking to get another thread closed dooode?
(and yes, I did report your post to the moderators).
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #651 on: May 16, 2014, 01:09:53 am »

It's obvious what BFD means and I've seen swear words used in the forum on numerous occasions.
In forums where no swearing is permitted, disguised swearing such as Andrew's is also verboten.

Anyway behaviour is offensive, not language.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #652 on: May 16, 2014, 01:42:32 am »

Anyway behaviour is offensive, not language.

You can wiggle all you want...but you crossed the line by typing the word.

I use a lot of colorful language...but I'm careful not to type the actual words.

I suspect an apology is in order for crossing the line cause if you don't it will act as an encouragement for more people to use foul language–which will pollute the LuLa forums...is that your intent? Andrew didn't type that word, you did...

Truth be told, you've been out of control for a while now...maybe it's time to reassess your involvement here (before you get banned).
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #653 on: May 16, 2014, 02:12:48 am »

do really think typing the word or initials is any different? I do not. Because someone is not agreeing makes him out of control? An artist is never supposed to go along with the norm in life. David
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #654 on: May 16, 2014, 02:25:27 am »

do really think typing the word or initials is any different? I do not.

So, there are no lines in the sand? Anything goes? Acronyms and alternative words are just that...expressing the thought without typing the specific words.

Do you want any sense of decorum or are you fine with LuLa polluted by words that offend?

Unchecked, it'll only get worse, not better...there must be lines drawn (and Mike or Kev will draw those lines)

You don't like it, pack your bags...
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #655 on: May 16, 2014, 02:34:04 am »

Just pretend you're reading different words. I think we all need to understand that Andrew's "I'm all right Jack" can't be an acceptable response to this outage. A few people couldn't activate  locally-installed programs like PS or ID, even with the "bonus days", but all users were denied the associated Cloud services like fonts, iPad publishing (DPS) and storage which are supposed to oil the mechanism. The more they want us to pay for our dependence, the more faultless the systems need to be.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #656 on: May 16, 2014, 02:38:40 am »

The more they want us to pay for our dependence, the more faultless the systems need to be.

Yep, I agree...Adobe dropped the ball once again (they have a long history of dropping balls). But, that doesn't mean we need to tolerate bullshyte (notice the spelling) here on LuLa...

JJJ is baiting Andrew (it's pretty easy to do) with no good reason or agenda for doing so. Fine...they don't like each other. Take it outside and quit polluting LuLa with their crap.
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #657 on: May 16, 2014, 02:58:49 am »

It takes two to tango, and Andrew's been more argumentative recently. But sure, I'd agree the words should be edited .
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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #658 on: May 16, 2014, 06:22:55 am »

Andrew has wound a lot of people up about this in various threads, mainly about how it must be their fault if they have issues with CC and now people can't get work done because Adobe have an outage and his only response is 'big fucking deal'.
Speaking for others again, typical. Yes, BFD, put this entire nonsense into some perspective. You maybe, couldn't use a piece of software for a day to crop you little photo's. You know what a BFD is? You're undergoing brain surgery and as the surgeon is cutting into your brain, the power goes out. You're flying at 32 thousand feet and two engines go out. The rail train that passes your home derails with tanks of Bakken oil. Those are BFDs! Wound? So tired of your drama queen rants aimed at getting out the pitchfork and axes towards Adobe because maybe, something goes down and you can't launch Photoshop to retouch a zit on one of your little pictures. Get a grip, it's just a piece of software and if you can't backup it's use for a day, then yes BFD! I can't get cell services in my hotel room this week: Oh the horrors, the horrors!

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Re: So how is that Subscription Service working out for Adobe?
« Reply #659 on: May 16, 2014, 07:47:47 am »

So, there are no lines in the sand? Anything goes? Acronyms and alternative words are just that...expressing the thought without typing the specific words.

Except that in this case it's not an acronym, it's an initialism. There's a difference.

You can wiggle all you want...but you crossed the line by typing the word.
I use a lot of colorful language...but I'm careful not to type the actual words.

And do you really think that using the Olde English spelling of the word ‘bullshyte’ is in some way less offensive than typing the modern version ? The gist and connotation are clear, the modern day version no different, and the tenor is the same. There’s zero ambiguity.  If, by your reasoning, BFD is acceptable, then typing the initialism 'ef-u' would be equally acceptable. It isn't. None of them are.

Short answer:  ban all offensive terminology, whether it be the written word or a thinly disguised provocation - spare me the 'euphemistic deformation' bit, and let's leave out both the lexical semantics and the sanctimonious babble.

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The origins of the f-word are in Anglo Saxon Old German and it was commonly used in Chaucerian times, and by Chaucer himself, but it later became so offensive than even though Shakespeare hinted at it he never used the word explicitly. ‘BS' is a very modern term, probably less than 100 years old. It’s related to ‘bull’, which was used as slang for ‘nonsense', in the 17th century.  The ‘shit’ was added later, probably during World War I.

In any event, the meaning of both words are unambiguous no matter what ‘trompe-l’oeil’ facade you try to disguise them with.
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